How to fix our crisis

Anonymous
This is why our family chose IB. American education sucks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


Almost nobody uses Calculus in the real world.

This is not a reason to teach subjects. We have a functionally illiterate society. Doesn’t mean it’s okay to stop teaching English since you can get away with not being good at it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


How ridiculous. Unless one is going into a STEM field, calculus is completely unnecessary - and useless.

“Calculus is useless” is exactly why our education system is so bad. So many parents happy to have ignorant kids.


Would be more useful to require a course in statistics and interpreting data.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


How ridiculous. Unless one is going into a STEM field, calculus is completely unnecessary - and useless.

“Calculus is useless” is exactly why our education system is so bad. So many parents happy to have ignorant kids.


Would be more useful to require a course in statistics and interpreting data.

Let me guess, for jobs? Not for any actual educational value. People really are proud to be stupid here.
Anonymous
Vivek Ramaswam, is that you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


Almost nobody uses Calculus in the real world.

This is not a reason to teach subjects. We have a functionally illiterate society. Doesn’t mean it’s okay to stop teaching English since you can get away with not being good at it.


What is more useful, Calculus or Probability/Combinatorics?
Anonymous
More people should be failed out of high school and directed somewhere else. As someone not born in the US, calculus being treated as some ridiculously insane requirement for 17 year olds is a really embarrassing reflection of this country. Sports are treated more seriously than education in the US
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


Almost nobody uses Calculus in the real world.

This is not a reason to teach subjects. We have a functionally illiterate society. Doesn’t mean it’s okay to stop teaching English since you can get away with not being good at it.


What is more useful, Calculus or Probability/Combinatorics?

We can’t get kids to do precalculus and you want them to do combinatorics?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Vivek Ramaswam, is that you?

Nikki Haley, is that you?
Anonymous
OP you’re seeing live why we have a crisis: chronically low expectations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


Almost nobody uses Calculus in the real world.

This is not a reason to teach subjects. We have a functionally illiterate society. Doesn’t mean it’s okay to stop teaching English since you can get away with not being good at it.


What is more useful, Calculus or Probability/Combinatorics?

We can’t get kids to do precalculus and you want them to do combinatorics?


Sure, things like probability distributions, confidence intervals, how to interpret data, permutations, n pick k, etc. More useful than Calculus for most people. BTW, I took a ton of calculus, real analysis, complex analysis, etc. in college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


How ridiculous. Unless one is going into a STEM field, calculus is completely unnecessary - and useless.

“Calculus is useless” is exactly why our education system is so bad. So many parents happy to have ignorant kids.


How far did your kid get with a foreign language? Or APs in humanities?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


How ridiculous. Unless one is going into a STEM field, calculus is completely unnecessary - and useless.

“Calculus is useless” is exactly why our education system is so bad. So many parents happy to have ignorant kids.


Would be more useful to require a course in statistics and interpreting data.


Exactly. FAR more useful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


Almost nobody uses Calculus in the real world.

This is not a reason to teach subjects. We have a functionally illiterate society. Doesn’t mean it’s okay to stop teaching English since you can get away with not being good at it.


What is more useful, Calculus or Probability/Combinatorics?

You have a lot more confidence that students will care about either. Everyone barks about how school doesn’t teach useful skills, but so many stats teachers have expressed how little students care about learning statistics. The issue is cultural, and we teach students that school is long, boring, and useless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Making calculus a graduation requirement and not guaranteeing a high school diploma would fix a ton of our issues


How ridiculous. Unless one is going into a STEM field, calculus is completely unnecessary - and useless.

“Calculus is useless” is exactly why our education system is so bad. So many parents happy to have ignorant kids.


How far did your kid get with a foreign language? Or APs in humanities?

Very, mine did Spanish literature and French language. Took various humanities APs. What’s the excuse again?
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