Algebra I - 7th grade expectations

[Anonymous]

I was surprised when my oldest, who was in 7th grade took an Algebra Honors class—it was way too simple and easy. What surprised me even more was that in elementary school, the teacher only covered basic concepts and didn’t go beyond that. I think those gaps in learning might show up later when kids get to Algebra 2 or Pre-Calculus. Luckily, my 7th grade oldest is naturally “mathy,” so she didn’t have any issues.

My younger child, though, is different. He’s advanced and good at math, but he’s not naturally gifted in the same way. In my opinion, having a solid understanding of pre-algebra is key. If you really grasp pre-algebra, Algebra Honors won’t be a problem. That’s why I think it’s so important to dig deep into pre-algebra first—it sets the foundation for Algebra 1. I’ve been teaching my son at home, and I don’t use a tutor. Pre-algebra is a very easy concept, so parents can absolutely help their kids with it. Even though my younger one isn’t as naturally mathy as my oldest, the extra practice at home has made a big difference

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was surprised when my oldest, who was in 7th grade took an Algebra Honors class—it was way too simple and easy. What surprised me even more was that in elementary school, the teacher only covered basic concepts and didn’t go beyond that. I think those gaps in learning might show up later when kids get to Algebra 2 or Pre-Calculus. Luckily, my 7th grade oldest is naturally “mathy,” so she didn’t have any issues.

My younger child, though, is different. He’s advanced and good at math, but he’s not naturally gifted in the same way. In my opinion, having a solid understanding of pre-algebra is key. If you really grasp pre-algebra, Algebra Honors won’t be a problem. That’s why I think it’s so important to dig deep into pre-algebra first—it sets the foundation for Algebra 1. I’ve been teaching my son at home, and I don’t use a tutor. Pre-algebra is a very easy concept, so parents can absolutely help their kids with it. Even though my younger one isn’t as naturally mathy as my oldest, the extra practice at home has made a big difference

I don't disagree. But in my experience, taking 7H in 7th also fulfills this need and adequately prepares students to take Algebra I Honors in 8th and get an A. That's a more moderate advanced track that is probably appropriate for more kids and is designed for this purpose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mastering math is all about consistent practice. AAP Level IV is too basic, and students aren’t provided with enough practice problems to build a deep understanding. It is not until student gets to Algebra 1 they realize the gaps in learning. Many students have been successful with learning Algebra 1 in 6th grade because they had sufficient depth in the prerequisite math in previous years. At the other end of spectrum, there are kids enrolled in algebra 1 in 8th grade and still fail miserably because of shallow math learning in previous years masked by inflated grades.

+1 million. My 7th grader in Algebra 1 gets the Algebra 1 concepts just fine and completely falls flat on making stupid math mistakes sometimes. We noticed this starting in 6th and I fully blame it on her 4th and 5th grade teachers not giving much practice as homework because (and I'm quoting one of them here) "we don't want to grade it."

Yes, I should have given extra homework at the time, but I assumed because she was doing well she was mastering it. She'll end up being fine but it was a little bit of a shock when we noticed.

OP here, school is Longfellow. The above PP completely describes my kid. I have found it very difficult to know how to best navigate it all when our kid is otherwise an A student, never have to force her to study, has always done well etc…we trusted the process and the referral from last year that she was more then ready for Algebra 1, and in many ways I think she is, but the faster pacing has been difficult for her and she does make careless mistakes despite demonstrating that she understands the broader concepts. I guess we look into tutoring at this point.

[Anonymous]

OP, have you considered this: work backwards. Consider what her schedule would be Senior Year of HS. What Math would she take as a Senior. Do you really think she needs to be -beyond- Calculus.

Summary: she could easily take Algebra 1 next year (or repeat) and be on a more sane math track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

Which i acknowledged. But in many cases, this isn’t the issue. Honors algebra in 7th (or earlier) is a rigorous path.lots of kids aren’t ready for that. It’s not the teacher’s job to make sure most kids are ready for that level of acceleration. There’s a curriculum designed to prepare kids for algebra and if you skip, you need to be gifted, enriched, or ready to work really hard to do well.
In my DC’s honors algebra class, the 8th graders are crushing it and most of the 7th graders are struggling. Only the very bright math 7th grade kids are doing well, or those that had outside enrichment. That’s not an individual teacher issue, that’s an issue with kids not being ready to skip steps and dive into more advanced math.
I skipped chemistry in high school and went to AP Chem directly because my gifted friend did. I was a top student, but not exceptional and certainly wasn’t doing chemistry enrichment outside of school. I ended up doing very well in the class and on the exam, but I had to work really hard for it because I didn’t have the building block knowledge of chemistry as a foundation. Wasn’t the teacher’s job to get me there, I had chosen to skip a step.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

Which i acknowledged. But in many cases, this isn’t the issue. Honors algebra in 7th (or earlier) is a rigorous path.lots of kids aren’t ready for that. It’s not the teacher’s job to make sure most kids are ready for that level of acceleration. There’s a curriculum designed to prepare kids for algebra and if you skip, you need to be gifted, enriched, or ready to work really hard to do well.
In my DC’s honors algebra class, the 8th graders are crushing it and most of the 7th graders are struggling. Only the very bright math 7th grade kids are doing well, or those that had outside enrichment. That’s not an individual teacher issue, that’s an issue with kids not being ready to skip steps and dive into more advanced math.
I skipped chemistry in high school and went to AP Chem directly because my gifted friend did. I was a top student, but not exceptional and certainly wasn’t doing chemistry enrichment outside of school. I ended up doing very well in the class and on the exam, but I had to work really hard for it because I didn’t have the building block knowledge of chemistry as a foundation. Wasn’t the teacher’s job to get me there, I had chosen to skip a step.

NP here. These AAP kids who qualified for algebra 1 honors didn’t skip anything, they’ve been accelerated since 5th and took 7H curriculum last year. You’re telling me a child with 99% IAAT and perfect score on 7th grade SOL isn’t ready? Please. The teacher’s job is to teach the current curriculum, not skip over and/or barely cover material because their expectation is that most of these kids are taking enrichment and learning it elsewhere. The gifted students still need to be taught. They get it quickly when they are, but teaching still needs to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

Which i acknowledged. But in many cases, this isn’t the issue. Honors algebra in 7th (or earlier) is a rigorous path.lots of kids aren’t ready for that. It’s not the teacher’s job to make sure most kids are ready for that level of acceleration. There’s a curriculum designed to prepare kids for algebra and if you skip, you need to be gifted, enriched, or ready to work really hard to do well.
In my DC’s honors algebra class, the 8th graders are crushing it and most of the 7th graders are struggling. Only the very bright math 7th grade kids are doing well, or those that had outside enrichment. That’s not an individual teacher issue, that’s an issue with kids not being ready to skip steps and dive into more advanced math.
I skipped chemistry in high school and went to AP Chem directly because my gifted friend did. I was a top student, but not exceptional and certainly wasn’t doing chemistry enrichment outside of school. I ended up doing very well in the class and on the exam, but I had to work really hard for it because I didn’t have the building block knowledge of chemistry as a foundation. Wasn’t the teacher’s job to get me there, I had chosen to skip a step.

NP here. These AAP kids who qualified for algebra 1 honors didn’t skip anything, they’ve been accelerated since 5th and took 7H curriculum last year. You’re telling me a child with 99% IAAT and perfect score on 7th grade SOL isn’t ready? Please. The teacher’s job is to teach the current curriculum, not skip over and/or barely cover material because their expectation is that most of these kids are taking enrichment and learning it elsewhere. The gifted students still need to be taught. They get it quickly when they are, but teaching still needs to happen.

You’re completely missing my point. And conveniently glossing over several of my points to make your argument. Bottom line, moving from an elementary school class to a high school class is a big jump. Of course it’s the teacher’s job to teach! But it’s not their job to teach in a manner that accommodates the kids that made that jump too early. LIV AAP isn’t that advanced; it’s still elementary school. If you’re going to take algebra in 7th, you need to be ready to move at a different pace and rigor than elementary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

Which i acknowledged. But in many cases, this isn’t the issue. Honors algebra in 7th (or earlier) is a rigorous path.lots of kids aren’t ready for that. It’s not the teacher’s job to make sure most kids are ready for that level of acceleration. There’s a curriculum designed to prepare kids for algebra and if you skip, you need to be gifted, enriched, or ready to work really hard to do well.
In my DC’s honors algebra class, the 8th graders are crushing it and most of the 7th graders are struggling. Only the very bright math 7th grade kids are doing well, or those that had outside enrichment. That’s not an individual teacher issue, that’s an issue with kids not being ready to skip steps and dive into more advanced math.
I skipped chemistry in high school and went to AP Chem directly because my gifted friend did. I was a top student, but not exceptional and certainly wasn’t doing chemistry enrichment outside of school. I ended up doing very well in the class and on the exam, but I had to work really hard for it because I didn’t have the building block knowledge of chemistry as a foundation. Wasn’t the teacher’s job to get me there, I had chosen to skip a step.

NP here. These AAP kids who qualified for algebra 1 honors didn’t skip anything, they’ve been accelerated since 5th and took 7H curriculum last year. You’re telling me a child with 99% IAAT and perfect score on 7th grade SOL isn’t ready? Please. The teacher’s job is to teach the current curriculum, not skip over and/or barely cover material because their expectation is that most of these kids are taking enrichment and learning it elsewhere. The gifted students still need to be taught. They get it quickly when they are, but teaching still needs to happen.

You’re completely missing my point. And conveniently glossing over several of my points to make your argument. Bottom line, moving from an elementary school class to a high school class is a big jump. Of course it’s the teacher’s job to teach! But it’s not their job to teach in a manner that accommodates the kids that made that jump too early. LIV AAP isn’t that advanced; it’s still elementary school. If you’re going to take algebra in 7th, you need to be ready to move at a different pace and rigor than elementary school.

6th grade advanced math (which the liv kids take) is the same as math honors 7. In addition, the kids need a pass advanced on the 7th grade SOL and a high enough IAAT (neither of which are required for 8th graders). The kids aren't skipping anything.

[Anonymous]

If more than half of the class is struggling and only 1-3 kids are excelling, then the problem is likely the teacher and not OP's kid.
Kids who qualify for 7th grade Algebra by a decent margin are ready for Algebra. They're unlikely to get much out of M7H, since they have already mastered the material.

OP, there's not much you can do about a weak teacher, other than get tutoring or supplementation for your kid, and help your kid clean up the carelessness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

Which i acknowledged. But in many cases, this isn’t the issue. Honors algebra in 7th (or earlier) is a rigorous path.lots of kids aren’t ready for that. It’s not the teacher’s job to make sure most kids are ready for that level of acceleration. There’s a curriculum designed to prepare kids for algebra and if you skip, you need to be gifted, enriched, or ready to work really hard to do well.
In my DC’s honors algebra class, the 8th graders are crushing it and most of the 7th graders are struggling. Only the very bright math 7th grade kids are doing well, or those that had outside enrichment. That’s not an individual teacher issue, that’s an issue with kids not being ready to skip steps and dive into more advanced math.
I skipped chemistry in high school and went to AP Chem directly because my gifted friend did. I was a top student, but not exceptional and certainly wasn’t doing chemistry enrichment outside of school. I ended up doing very well in the class and on the exam, but I had to work really hard for it because I didn’t have the building block knowledge of chemistry as a foundation. Wasn’t the teacher’s job to get me there, I had chosen to skip a step.

NP here. These AAP kids who qualified for algebra 1 honors didn’t skip anything, they’ve been accelerated since 5th and took 7H curriculum last year. You’re telling me a child with 99% IAAT and perfect score on 7th grade SOL isn’t ready? Please. The teacher’s job is to teach the current curriculum, not skip over and/or barely cover material because their expectation is that most of these kids are taking enrichment and learning it elsewhere. The gifted students still need to be taught. They get it quickly when they are, but teaching still needs to happen.

You’re completely missing my point. And conveniently glossing over several of my points to make your argument. Bottom line, moving from an elementary school class to a high school class is a big jump. Of course it’s the teacher’s job to teach! But it’s not their job to teach in a manner that accommodates the kids that made that jump too early. LIV AAP isn’t that advanced; it’s still elementary school. If you’re going to take algebra in 7th, you need to be ready to move at a different pace and rigor than elementary school.

6th grade advanced math (which the liv kids take) is the same as math honors 7. In addition, the kids need a pass advanced on the 7th grade SOL and a high enough IAAT (neither of which are required for 8th graders). The kids aren't skipping anything.

That's incorrect. M7H takes the 8th grade math SOL at the end of the year, while AAP 6th grade math takes the 7th grade one. They are somewhat skipping a year, but keep in mind that the curriculum spirals and M7H will be a lot of the same material that is covered in AAP 6th grade math, but just a little deeper.

The PP quoted before you is also incorrect, though. Going from AAP 6th grade math to Honors Algebra I should not be viewed as a skip from elementary school math to high school math. The AAP 6th grade math teacher *should be* preparing kids for the rigors of Algebra I, including the organizational skills, note taking, homework load, extending beyond simple use of algorithms, etc. If the jump from AAP 6th grade math to Honors Algebra feels huge, then the 6th grade teacher really dropped the ball.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of posts blaming the teachers. There are bad apples in every profession, but this is also such a reflection of our times.

Taking Alegebra I Honors in 7th is an accelerated path. It’s not for everyone. I’m sure your child is very bright, but that doesn’t mean this level of acceleration is appropriate for them. It’s a high school level class and things get real at that point… it’s a big departure from elementary school whether you were doing well in AAP LIV or not.

This is not a humble brag, but my 8th grade DC has a 100 in that class. They feel bad about themselves that they waited until 8th, but they also see most of the 7th graders in the class struggling, as it’s the first time those kids have had to really work at something. You can be very smart and not ready to take a high school credit class your first year out of ES. And that’s okay. The math only gets much harder from here.

Some teachers are just bad. Our MS has two teachers covering Algebra for 7th graders, one teacher with an amazing reputation and one who is nice but teaches nothing. If you get the latter and can't transfer, you either teach your kid algebra or get a tutor.

Which i acknowledged. But in many cases, this isn’t the issue. Honors algebra in 7th (or earlier) is a rigorous path.lots of kids aren’t ready for that. It’s not the teacher’s job to make sure most kids are ready for that level of acceleration. There’s a curriculum designed to prepare kids for algebra and if you skip, you need to be gifted, enriched, or ready to work really hard to do well.
In my DC’s honors algebra class, the 8th graders are crushing it and most of the 7th graders are struggling. Only the very bright math 7th grade kids are doing well, or those that had outside enrichment. That’s not an individual teacher issue, that’s an issue with kids not being ready to skip steps and dive into more advanced math.
I skipped chemistry in high school and went to AP Chem directly because my gifted friend did. I was a top student, but not exceptional and certainly wasn’t doing chemistry enrichment outside of school. I ended up doing very well in the class and on the exam, but I had to work really hard for it because I didn’t have the building block knowledge of chemistry as a foundation. Wasn’t the teacher’s job to get me there, I had chosen to skip a step.

NP here. These AAP kids who qualified for algebra 1 honors didn’t skip anything, they’ve been accelerated since 5th and took 7H curriculum last year. You’re telling me a child with 99% IAAT and perfect score on 7th grade SOL isn’t ready? Please. The teacher’s job is to teach the current curriculum, not skip over and/or barely cover material because their expectation is that most of these kids are taking enrichment and learning it elsewhere. The gifted students still need to be taught. They get it quickly when they are, but teaching still needs to happen.

You’re completely missing my point. And conveniently glossing over several of my points to make your argument. Bottom line, moving from an elementary school class to a high school class is a big jump. Of course it’s the teacher’s job to teach! But it’s not their job to teach in a manner that accommodates the kids that made that jump too early. LIV AAP isn’t that advanced; it’s still elementary school. If you’re going to take algebra in 7th, you need to be ready to move at a different pace and rigor than elementary school.

6th grade advanced math (which the liv kids take) is the same as math honors 7. In addition, the kids need a pass advanced on the 7th grade SOL and a high enough IAAT (neither of which are required for 8th graders). The kids aren't skipping anything.

That's incorrect. M7H takes the 8th grade math SOL at the end of the year, while AAP 6th grade math takes the 7th grade one. They are somewhat skipping a year, but keep in mind that the curriculum spirals and M7H will be a lot of the same material that is covered in AAP 6th grade math, but just a little deeper.

The PP quoted before you is also incorrect, though. Going from AAP 6th grade math to Honors Algebra I should not be viewed as a skip from elementary school math to high school math. The AAP 6th grade math teacher *should be* preparing kids for the rigors of Algebra I, including the organizational skills, note taking, homework load, extending beyond simple use of algorithms, etc. If the jump from AAP 6th grade math to Honors Algebra feels huge, then the 6th grade teacher really dropped the ball.

I am the PP who OP quoted about not enough practice. I think having a fairly decent 6th grade math teacher (she had her issues but she could at least teach content and have high expectations) is what saved my kid from poor grades in Algebra so far - that and a stellar Algebra teacher.

To the arguing that Algebra is too advanced: at Frost they said almost every kid placed by the regular process into Algebra 1 in 7th will do well. The teachers were very positive about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD has been in level IV AAP throughout, scored in the 98th percentile last year on the IAAT with zero tutoring. She is self-motivated and works hard, but 7th grade has been unexpectedly challenging. In her own words, she can work her way through the assignments but it is very time consuming. She typically has an hour+ of homework/night for math. She’s frustrated that she doesn’t have time to review and study upcoming material because she has used up all her time working through equations. She has a B+ at the end of the 1st quarter, but received a D on the first exam of the second quarter. She feels like the teacher is moving too quickly through teaching the material, not that she is incapable of doing it. How can we best support her? (She is not alone, more than half the class is in the same boat as far as we can tell, with 1-3 kids who are excelling.)

A b+ is a very good grade. And also, a D is still passing.

[Anonymous]

OP, either work with your kid yourself (you can use something like Khan Academy to help), or find them a tutor. If things are as you described, it is likely a teacher issue, and unlikely to change over time.

My DD had a good teacher for Algebra I in 7th, and breezed through it. She had an awful teacher for Geometry in 8th, struggled a lot, and I had to step in to help her. Now in 9th, she has an excellent teacher for Algebra II, and is once again, breezing through. A good teacher can make all the difference, and if your child doesn't have one, you'll have to step in and help close any gaps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, have you considered this: work backwards. Consider what her schedule would be Senior Year of HS. What Math would she take as a Senior. Do you really think she needs to be -beyond- Calculus.

Summary: she could easily take Algebra 1 next year (or repeat) and be on a more sane math track.

it doesn't need to be post-calculus; it can be go precalc, calculus AB, statistics, BC