Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She absolutely has the right to access the pool, which includes changing facilities. This is an ADA requirement.
The men's concern about their own privacy isn't a valid one, IMO. But the concern about her privacy is. It's important that individuals with disabilities, who are at such high risk of abuse, see us protecting their privacy because it increases the likelihood that they will protest or alert someone if their privacy is violated. For that reason, if she doesn't seem to mind, I would still look for ways to protect her. A clothesline like this could probably be strung between two lockers and give her an area:
https://www.amazon.com/Retractable-Portable-Clothesline-Travel%EF%BC%8CClothing-Accessories/dp/B09XPWGFTV/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.AJnuLLDLXU2phqXcmAgFCl0h25G8ESa_XLpWKEFRbJfK1N_ov53W6VDfzATO-bDEL8zvNyWCxrlWrs2aROewGtj8ktVlulZ78-kDdmdE3rQjGRb42Swi3xzf7SexZQ4v4BV-PzgVIDhiuwKW7-8STd-NuSo8CxYj6Rkd4UANT1Isw1qHVBn9BCS5QBSopCh6l1QYTLrm-9WGY9t266Xrw69aIv2VmFkha-HJ01CCXDLtIDVelwBgl8bHa0lyUw18HR0TvocDS7nx_Bgr2eQaszDe-9kM9iym6PltzGvfLgY.ktwK5EsMV4isSeCE5K2WVU3PJL9K-0G3E9M_c1RdLu0&dib_tag=se&hvadid=580847229306&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=1018700&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14978502506158371600&hvtargid=kwd-570371167331&hydadcr=15749_13524420&keywords=magnetic+clothesline&qid=1732052489&sr=8-3-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1
Or you could ask the facility for a solution such as temporarily closing the men's room to give you a chance to help her, or putting up some other sort of barrier.
Thank you, OP here. The issues with the facility is it's an older one without a family changing room... So we usually take only a few moments to change very discreetly in a corner of the men's room so as not to bother anyone (my going to the women's room is likely more disruptive). When they confronted us - we were still all in swimwear but they demanded we leave - even after I explained she had a disability and calmly suggested they could simply go back to the section of the locker room they were already in and not visible to either of us while we take 5m of their precious time. I don't understand why their sensibilities about *potentially* seeing a disabled teen girl nude for a brief moment in their life (which at most causes someone a minor embarrassment) somehow take precedence over a human need to use a locker room - so my DD can change into street clothes. The alternatives are she change in a stall that has feces / pee on the floor or go home soaking wet in the cold. I don't think their sensibilities are reasonable - when they could simply wait 5m in another area of the locker room to avoid any embarrassment. I just don't understand why some people believe in "rights" (which are actually just small conveniences to avoid minor embarassment) have priority over a real human need sometimes. And yes, I could block off the entire men's room, and kick everyone out that is in there. That also inconveniences people - for a minor reason.
You could block off the entire men’s room and kick everyone out? Who granted you that power? Instead of fighting everyone in the locker room why don’t you just talk to management to work out a solution before you all get kicked out?
I am not OP, but I am assuming he means that that is one solution that the pool could be expected (forced) to offer. When I wanted to take my son to a museum that didn't have a family restroom the option they offered to me was to close down a women's restroom exclusively for our use whenever I requested it.
OP, talk to pool management. This may be a situation where "malicious compliance" is what is needed to teach those men a lesson. And frankly if enough people find themselves getting kicked out of a locker room while you use it with your daughter perhaps that will be the motivation needed to spur some renovations. There are likely other people in the community who would use that pool if it had adequate facilities.