Where are all the electoral maps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/electoral-college-map?game-id=2024-PG-CNN-ratings&game-view=map

Yes I know. That’s a simple interactive map that anyone can do. But what I’m asking about is CNN’s trademark Magic Wall and John King’s superb analysis based on latest polling data. That has been a major feature of CNN’s on air coverage in past election cycles, but seems to have gone away since AZ, NC, and GA changed from orange to light red.

[Anonymous]

To your point, they are using the EC maps on Fox several times a day.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing to report. Polls have this thing tied.

Maybe, but that has never stopped them in past years. And when you do the map yourself based on polling data, it becomes very clear that Trump has the much easier path to 270 (assuming polls are correct that he will likely get GA, NC, AZ, and NV). Then he only needs to pick up ONE of MI, WI, or PA.

Also remember how in past years it was all about Florida and Ohio. Those are in the bag for Trump this year and they aren’t even campaigning there. I don’t think CNN wants to show that reality, which isn’t pretty for Kamala.

Another way to think about this is that Harris only has to win three states of the 7 battlegrounds whereas Trump has to win 5. And the reason Harris only has to win 3 is that the states where she is strongest are more populous and thus have more electoral votes.

But really neither of them has the "easier path." Basically whoever wins PA wins the election. Much like in previous years when it all came down to Florida. And the reality is that while FL and OH have swung to the right, Virginia and Colorado have swung to the left. So there's been no rightward shift in the US. It's just that people keep moving around and attitudes are shifting a bit.

Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV. That picture has emerged quite clearly in the two months since CNN apparently stopped using the wall and electoral predictions. That means there are really only three states in play (PA, WI, and MI), and of those, Kamala needs all three to win and Trump only needs one.

Instead of the endless panels on CNN with their partisan politics, I would prefer to see objective John King and his Wall. But it seems CNN has told him to stand down.

What current polls? The 538 average has Nevada even and Trump up 1 in NC and GA. So within the margin of error in all three states. There is no "clear pictures" that Trump is winning any of those. I do think he'll win AZ.

And in any case, if Harris wins both WI and MI (where she is up 1 in the 538 average) then Trump not only has to carry all three of NC-GA-NV but he also has to win PA.

So either way they both have to win PA. There is no conspiracy here. CNN and other news outlets understand that there is zero value in showing the same map with the same swing states where polls are effectively tied over and over again. Especially when ultimately it's going to to come down to PA alone where the race is a dead heat and because of the mail-in vote and lack of early voting there aren't even much in the way of early numbers to discuss as there are in other states with substantial early vote.

If you want to look at a map go look at a map of PA. It would be more useful.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing to report. Polls have this thing tied.

Maybe, but that has never stopped them in past years. And when you do the map yourself based on polling data, it becomes very clear that Trump has the much easier path to 270 (assuming polls are correct that he will likely get GA, NC, AZ, and NV). Then he only needs to pick up ONE of MI, WI, or PA.

Also remember how in past years it was all about Florida and Ohio. Those are in the bag for Trump this year and they aren’t even campaigning there. I don’t think CNN wants to show that reality, which isn’t pretty for Kamala.

Another way to think about this is that Harris only has to win three states of the 7 battlegrounds whereas Trump has to win 5. And the reason Harris only has to win 3 is that the states where she is strongest are more populous and thus have more electoral votes.

But really neither of them has the "easier path." Basically whoever wins PA wins the election. Much like in previous years when it all came down to Florida. And the reality is that while FL and OH have swung to the right, Virginia and Colorado have swung to the left. So there's been no rightward shift in the US. It's just that people keep moving around and attitudes are shifting a bit.

Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV. That picture has emerged quite clearly in the two months since CNN apparently stopped using the wall and electoral predictions. That means there are really only three states in play (PA, WI, and MI), and of those, Kamala needs all three to win and Trump only needs one.

Instead of the endless panels on CNN with their partisan politics, I would prefer to see objective John King and his Wall. But it seems CNN has told him to stand down.

What current polls? The 538 average has Nevada even and Trump up 1 in NC and GA. So within the margin of error in all three states. There is no "clear pictures" that Trump is winning any of those. I do think he'll win AZ.

And in any case, if Harris wins both WI and MI (where she is up 1 in the 538 average) then Trump not only has to carry all three of NC-GA-NV but he also has to win PA.

So either way they both have to win PA. There is no conspiracy here. CNN and other news outlets understand that there is zero value in showing the same map with the same swing states where polls are effectively tied over and over again. Especially when ultimately it's going to to come down to PA alone where the race is a dead heat and because of the mail-in vote and lack of early voting there aren't even much in the way of early numbers to discuss as there are in other states with substantial early vote.

If you want to look at a map go look at a map of PA. It would be more useful.

Other polls are showing Trump much further ahead in NC and GA than you seem to think. NV is closer.

And why has CNN made that decision? Nothing has stopped them from endless electoral map game theory in past election cycles!

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Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV.

The use of the word "very" here is just...stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing to report. Polls have this thing tied.

Maybe, but that has never stopped them in past years. And when you do the map yourself based on polling data, it becomes very clear that Trump has the much easier path to 270 (assuming polls are correct that he will likely get GA, NC, AZ, and NV). Then he only needs to pick up ONE of MI, WI, or PA.

Also remember how in past years it was all about Florida and Ohio. Those are in the bag for Trump this year and they aren’t even campaigning there. I don’t think CNN wants to show that reality, which isn’t pretty for Kamala.

Another way to think about this is that Harris only has to win three states of the 7 battlegrounds whereas Trump has to win 5. And the reason Harris only has to win 3 is that the states where she is strongest are more populous and thus have more electoral votes.

But really neither of them has the "easier path." Basically whoever wins PA wins the election. Much like in previous years when it all came down to Florida. And the reality is that while FL and OH have swung to the right, Virginia and Colorado have swung to the left. So there's been no rightward shift in the US. It's just that people keep moving around and attitudes are shifting a bit.

Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV. That picture has emerged quite clearly in the two months since CNN apparently stopped using the wall and electoral predictions. That means there are really only three states in play (PA, WI, and MI), and of those, Kamala needs all three to win and Trump only needs one.

Instead of the endless panels on CNN with their partisan politics, I would prefer to see objective John King and his Wall. But it seems CNN has told him to stand down.

What current polls? The 538 average has Nevada even and Trump up 1 in NC and GA. So within the margin of error in all three states. There is no "clear pictures" that Trump is winning any of those. I do think he'll win AZ.

And in any case, if Harris wins both WI and MI (where she is up 1 in the 538 average) then Trump not only has to carry all three of NC-GA-NV but he also has to win PA.

So either way they both have to win PA. There is no conspiracy here. CNN and other news outlets understand that there is zero value in showing the same map with the same swing states where polls are effectively tied over and over again. Especially when ultimately it's going to to come down to PA alone where the race is a dead heat and because of the mail-in vote and lack of early voting there aren't even much in the way of early numbers to discuss as there are in other states with substantial early vote.

If you want to look at a map go look at a map of PA. It would be more useful.

Not responding to Helene will give Harris the win in NC, by preventing a large number of rural voters from voting.

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Who didn’t respond to Helene?

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https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4962090-north-carolina-fema-over-190-million-hurricane-helene-aid/

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing to report. Polls have this thing tied.

Maybe, but that has never stopped them in past years. And when you do the map yourself based on polling data, it becomes very clear that Trump has the much easier path to 270 (assuming polls are correct that he will likely get GA, NC, AZ, and NV). Then he only needs to pick up ONE of MI, WI, or PA.

Also remember how in past years it was all about Florida and Ohio. Those are in the bag for Trump this year and they aren’t even campaigning there. I don’t think CNN wants to show that reality, which isn’t pretty for Kamala.

Another way to think about this is that Harris only has to win three states of the 7 battlegrounds whereas Trump has to win 5. And the reason Harris only has to win 3 is that the states where she is strongest are more populous and thus have more electoral votes.

But really neither of them has the "easier path." Basically whoever wins PA wins the election. Much like in previous years when it all came down to Florida. And the reality is that while FL and OH have swung to the right, Virginia and Colorado have swung to the left. So there's been no rightward shift in the US. It's just that people keep moving around and attitudes are shifting a bit.

Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV. That picture has emerged quite clearly in the two months since CNN apparently stopped using the wall and electoral predictions. That means there are really only three states in play (PA, WI, and MI), and of those, Kamala needs all three to win and Trump only needs one.

Instead of the endless panels on CNN with their partisan politics, I would prefer to see objective John King and his Wall. But it seems CNN has told him to stand down.

What current polls? The 538 average has Nevada even and Trump up 1 in NC and GA. So within the margin of error in all three states. There is no "clear pictures" that Trump is winning any of those. I do think he'll win AZ.

And in any case, if Harris wins both WI and MI (where she is up 1 in the 538 average) then Trump not only has to carry all three of NC-GA-NV but he also has to win PA.

So either way they both have to win PA. There is no conspiracy here. CNN and other news outlets understand that there is zero value in showing the same map with the same swing states where polls are effectively tied over and over again. Especially when ultimately it's going to to come down to PA alone where the race is a dead heat and because of the mail-in vote and lack of early voting there aren't even much in the way of early numbers to discuss as there are in other states with substantial early vote.

If you want to look at a map go look at a map of PA. It would be more useful.

Other polls are showing Trump much further ahead in NC and GA than you seem to think. NV is closer.

And why has CNN made that decision? Nothing has stopped them from endless electoral map game theory in past election cycles!

That's why reporting outlier polls is pointless and most outlets use polling averages. You can also find polls that show Harris way out ahead in MI and WI and leading in PA, and if we just trusted those polls then we should just call the whole thing now, right?

Sorry but your conspiracy theories based on a few right-leaning pollsters turning up a +5 for Trump in NC are just that -- theories. The reason networks aren't putting up maps showing Trump winning is that the polls do not show Trump winning and actually the race is tied including in key battleground states.

What are you going to do if the results from these races come back and Trump doesn't sweep NV-AZ-NC-GA? Because there's every likelihood that Harris could win one or two of those. Just like Trump could pull out wins in WI and MI. And either candidate could win PA.

You just want the news to tell you that the outcome you are hoping for is going to happen and you consider anyone who doesn't "biased" or "hiding something."

[Anonymous]

I believe that all of the MAGA party and the trolls are busy trying to feed the narrative that Trump is destined to win so when he loses they can plausibly say it was stolen.

There have been extraordinarily high numbers of MAGA partisan polls trying to tip the avereages. Add to that all the herding of pollsters afraid of a repeat of 2020 and 2024 polling misses.

I will believe the results of the election. Everything else is manipulative noise.

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Anonymous wrote:Who didn’t respond to Helene?

MAGA hates victims of natural disasters who don't pull themselves up by their bootstraps. That's way they hunt down emergency responders, driving crews away with guns

[Anonymous]

There really isn't much to it. There are 7 swing states and PA is the capstone. whoever gets PA likely wins, though Harris has more paths t 270 without it than Trump does.

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Spoutible Chris Boozy online he’s predicted for over 20 years has not been wrong
Twitter has a bunch as well but beware many are Russsian bots
Threads has some as well as BlueSky

These are reputable people e who do stats for a living math is glorious

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing to report. Polls have this thing tied.

Maybe, but that has never stopped them in past years. And when you do the map yourself based on polling data, it becomes very clear that Trump has the much easier path to 270 (assuming polls are correct that he will likely get GA, NC, AZ, and NV). Then he only needs to pick up ONE of MI, WI, or PA.

Also remember how in past years it was all about Florida and Ohio. Those are in the bag for Trump this year and they aren’t even campaigning there. I don’t think CNN wants to show that reality, which isn’t pretty for Kamala.

Another way to think about this is that Harris only has to win three states of the 7 battlegrounds whereas Trump has to win 5. And the reason Harris only has to win 3 is that the states where she is strongest are more populous and thus have more electoral votes.

But really neither of them has the "easier path." Basically whoever wins PA wins the election. Much like in previous years when it all came down to Florida. And the reality is that while FL and OH have swung to the right, Virginia and Colorado have swung to the left. So there's been no rightward shift in the US. It's just that people keep moving around and attitudes are shifting a bit.

Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV. That picture has emerged quite clearly in the two months since CNN apparently stopped using the wall and electoral predictions. That means there are really only three states in play (PA, WI, and MI), and of those, Kamala needs all three to win and Trump only needs one.

Instead of the endless panels on CNN with their partisan politics, I would prefer to see objective John King and his Wall. But it seems CNN has told him to stand down.

What current polls? The 538 average has Nevada even and Trump up 1 in NC and GA. So within the margin of error in all three states. There is no "clear pictures" that Trump is winning any of those. I do think he'll win AZ.

And in any case, if Harris wins both WI and MI (where she is up 1 in the 538 average) then Trump not only has to carry all three of NC-GA-NV but he also has to win PA.

So either way they both have to win PA. There is no conspiracy here. CNN and other news outlets understand that there is zero value in showing the same map with the same swing states where polls are effectively tied over and over again. Especially when ultimately it's going to to come down to PA alone where the race is a dead heat and because of the mail-in vote and lack of early voting there aren't even much in the way of early numbers to discuss as there are in other states with substantial early vote.

If you want to look at a map go look at a map of PA. It would be more useful.

Not responding to Helene will give Harris the win in NC, by preventing a large number of rural voters from voting.

No one is is preventing people from voting but republicans that is a fact

Hundreds of bogus lawsuits daily filed. If Trump is winning bigly why the lawsuits? Why the lies?

Republicans just lost another case this morning in GA a Republican judge dismissed.

Trump is losing we know this because Stephen Miller is panicking

Polls are Russians pure and simple MAGA is the part of Putin that is a fact

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Anonymous wrote:There’s nothing to report. Polls have this thing tied.

Maybe, but that has never stopped them in past years. And when you do the map yourself based on polling data, it becomes very clear that Trump has the much easier path to 270 (assuming polls are correct that he will likely get GA, NC, AZ, and NV). Then he only needs to pick up ONE of MI, WI, or PA.

Also remember how in past years it was all about Florida and Ohio. Those are in the bag for Trump this year and they aren’t even campaigning there. I don’t think CNN wants to show that reality, which isn’t pretty for Kamala.

Another way to think about this is that Harris only has to win three states of the 7 battlegrounds whereas Trump has to win 5. And the reason Harris only has to win 3 is that the states where she is strongest are more populous and thus have more electoral votes.

But really neither of them has the "easier path." Basically whoever wins PA wins the election. Much like in previous years when it all came down to Florida. And the reality is that while FL and OH have swung to the right, Virginia and Colorado have swung to the left. So there's been no rightward shift in the US. It's just that people keep moving around and attitudes are shifting a bit.

Based on current polls, it seems very clear Trump will take GA, NC, AZ, and NV. That picture has emerged quite clearly in the two months since CNN apparently stopped using the wall and electoral predictions. That means there are really only three states in play (PA, WI, and MI), and of those, Kamala needs all three to win and Trump only needs one.

Instead of the endless panels on CNN with their partisan politics, I would prefer to see objective John King and his Wall. But it seems CNN has told him to stand down.

What current polls? The 538 average has Nevada even and Trump up 1 in NC and GA. So within the margin of error in all three states. There is no "clear pictures" that Trump is winning any of those. I do think he'll win AZ.

And in any case, if Harris wins both WI and MI (where she is up 1 in the 538 average) then Trump not only has to carry all three of NC-GA-NV but he also has to win PA.

So either way they both have to win PA. There is no conspiracy here. CNN and other news outlets understand that there is zero value in showing the same map with the same swing states where polls are effectively tied over and over again. Especially when ultimately it's going to to come down to PA alone where the race is a dead heat and because of the mail-in vote and lack of early voting there aren't even much in the way of early numbers to discuss as there are in other states with substantial early vote.

If you want to look at a map go look at a map of PA. It would be more useful.

Other polls are showing Trump much further ahead in NC and GA than you seem to think. NV is closer.

And why has CNN made that decision? Nothing has stopped them from endless electoral map game theory in past election cycles!

That's why reporting outlier polls is pointless and most outlets use polling averages. You can also find polls that show Harris way out ahead in MI and WI and leading in PA, and if we just trusted those polls then we should just call the whole thing now, right?

Sorry but your conspiracy theories based on a few right-leaning pollsters turning up a +5 for Trump in NC are just that -- theories. The reason networks aren't putting up maps showing Trump winning is that the polls do not show Trump winning and actually the race is tied including in key battleground states.

What are you going to do if the results from these races come back and Trump doesn't sweep NV-AZ-NC-GA? Because there's every likelihood that Harris could win one or two of those. Just like Trump could pull out wins in WI and MI. And either candidate could win PA.

You just want the news to tell you that the outcome you are hoping for is going to happen and you consider anyone who doesn't "biased" or "hiding something."

I am going off mainstream polls reported by CNN. They are showing Trump up by more than a point in AZ, NC, and GA. Harris is up by less than a point in WI, MI, and PA. So it seems he is more secure in the swing states that are leaning towards him than in the swing states that are leaning towards her.