Sorry For The Beck Thing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Unless you are one of the Beck supporters how can you possibly apologize on their behalf. I don't assume all muslims are terrorists, or all blonds are dumb, or all white people are glenn beck supporters. I assume others see that support for political issues is not linked to the color of one's skin or religion or hair color any other distinguishing characteristic.

I reread my post and nowhere do I see the word "apology". I am not apologizing for Bech because there is no need to do so. He and his supporters have the same right toassemble as the supporters of MLK's "I Have A Dream Speech." I think MLK would also have supported Becj's right to speak and his supporters to assemble because he was for "Equality" not "Special Treatment."

Maybe you should post your definition of "sorry" then OP. Some of us are understandably confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Unless you are one of the Beck supporters how can you possibly apologize on their behalf. I don't assume all muslims are terrorists, or all blonds are dumb, or all white people are glenn beck supporters. I assume others see that support for political issues is not linked to the color of one's skin or religion or hair color any other distinguishing characteristic.

I reread my post and nowhere do I see the word "apology". I am not apologizing for Bech because there is no need to do so. He and his supporters have the same right toassemble as the supporters of MLK's "I Have A Dream Speech." I think MLK would also have supported Becj's right to speak and his supporters to assemble because he was for "Equality" not "Special Treatment."

Maybe you should post your definition of "sorry" then OP. Some of us are understandably confused.

I really don't think that the "I am not apologizing" poster is the OP--they seem to have opposite opinions of the rally.

[Anonymous]

The Beck supporters seem to have no understanding of the Constitution. There's a right to assembly and free speech--there's no right to freedom from ridicule and charges of being dirtballs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don't have to attend and if you are judging the political rights and beliefs of others by skin color you are just a prejudiced as you appear to be accusing Beck and his crowd.

Not what I said at all. I said that I felt ashamed to be the same race as 99% of the folks at the Beck rally, largely because if I move outside my neighborhood where people know me, folks might assume I was in town for the march. The thought of being mistaken for one of those people makes me sick.

Therapy might help you out...

You truly think that because you are white that if someone sees you, and they don't know you, they would think you were her for the Beck rally? Lady, you are beyond paranoid. Run, do not walk, to the nearest therapist and ask for a prescription for the strongest anti-psychotic drug on the market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You don't have to attend and if you are judging the political rights and beliefs of others by skin color you are just a prejudiced as you appear to be accusing Beck and his crowd.

Not what I said at all. I said that I felt ashamed to be the same race as 99% of the folks at the Beck rally, largely because if I move outside my neighborhood where people know me, folks might assume I was in town for the march. The thought of being mistaken for one of those people makes me sick.

Therapy might help you out...

You truly think that because you are white that if someone sees you, and they don't know you, they would think you were her for the Beck rally? Lady, you are beyond paranoid. Run, do not walk, to the nearest therapist and ask for a prescription for the strongest anti-psychotic drug on the market.

Spoken like someone with little to no experience being in the racial minority. If you're the only one of your race, people assume you're "with" all others of that race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Unless you are one of the Beck supporters how can you possibly apologize on their behalf. I don't assume all muslims are terrorists, or all blonds are dumb, or all white people are glenn beck supporters. I assume others see that support for political issues is not linked to the color of one's skin or religion or hair color any other distinguishing characteristic.

I reread my post and nowhere do I see the word "apology". I am not apologizing for Bech because there is no need to do so. He and his supporters have the same right toassemble as the supporters of MLK's "I Have A Dream Speech." I think MLK would also have supported Becj's right to speak and his supporters to assemble because he was for "Equality" not "Special Treatment."

Huh??? Apology is the 7th word of the post and Sorry is the first word of the title. It sure sounded like an apology to me.

[Anonymous]

I woudln't have shown my face at either rally going on today. Can't back Glenn Beck nor Al Sharpton. I can't think of Al Sharpton and not think about his involvement with Tawana Brawely in NY during the late 80's.

[Anonymous]

Point taken though, hopefully it won't reflect poorly on me as a white person just because a bunch of crypto-racists decided to co-opt one of the most sacred days in our nation's long struggle for equal rights with a defacto White Pride rally.

These guys made the Million Man March look like diverse cross-section of the population.

[Anonymous]

Oh, I almost forgot to ask: Did you guys manage to "take back the Civil Rights movement" and restore honor of Southern womanhood from the depredations of the darkies, or whatever the tantrum was about?

Let us know.

[Anonymous]

Martin Luther King would be ashamed of the violence being spewed and threateded on this thread. Shame on every single of one of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I woudln't have shown my face at either rally going on today. Can't back Glenn Beck nor Al Sharpton. I can't think of Al Sharpton and not think about his involvement with Tawana Brawely in NY during the late 80's.

I feel the same way you do about Sharpton but I decided to go to that march anyway because I thought it was important for white people to attend. I was so glad I went because it was a blast to march down 6th St with thousands of people. I really enjoyed it and Sharpton was a very small part of the whole event.

I also think it's unfair to assume that all the people attending the Beck rally were racists. I think it's safe to say that many have beliefs about the economy and the government that I disagree with. I don't think we can be as confident as to what their views on race are. Also, I didn't judge the motivations of the people in the march I attended based on what I think about Al Sharpton. I don't think it's fair to link everyone at the other rally to Glen Beck.

That said, I find Glen Beck really scary and not in touch with reality at all. He thinks Obama is some kind of dangerous socialist while Martin Luther King should be admired when the reality is that MLK was much closer to being a socialist while Obama is just the same old same old apologist for capitalism with some government constraints. And I do think Beck is appealing to a very scary element in our society -- people who think that a Marxist dictator is about to take over. I'm afraid of what such crazy people could do given enough weapons and encouragement from Beck. But I don't assume that the majority of people at the demo were like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I woudln't have shown my face at either rally going on today. Can't back Glenn Beck nor Al Sharpton. I can't think of Al Sharpton and not think about his involvement with Tawana Brawely in NY during the late 80's.

I am not a big Al Sharpton fan. But I think he has grown quite a bit since the Tawana Brawley incident. He sounded much more reasonable in 2004 when he ran for President, and he could even laugh at himself on SNL. He is also a champion of gay rights within the black community, which is unpopular among black christians and so this is important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I woudln't have shown my face at either rally going on today. Can't back Glenn Beck nor Al Sharpton. I can't think of Al Sharpton and not think about his involvement with Tawana Brawely in NY during the late 80's.

I am not a big Al Sharpton fan. But I think he has grown quite a bit since the Tawana Brawley incident. He sounded much more reasonable in 2004 when he ran for President, and he could even laugh at himself on SNL. He is also a champion of gay rights within the black community, which is unpopular among black christians and so this is important.

16:11 again. That's a good point, pp. I also want to add that Martin Luther King III gave comments at the closing rally declaring that we were people of all ethnicities and orientations. It slipped by me at first but then I recalled that MLK3 is also a supporter of gay rights. It was very important that he made that point to that audience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Martin Luther King would be ashamed of the violence being spewed and threateded on this thread. Shame on every single of one of you.

MLK was organizing a cross-racial coalition of working folks to protect the rights of lower-income Americans when he was shot to death by a proto-teabagger. The man was a socialist and redistributor of wealth in any meaningful sense of the word.

The White Pride Parade on Saturday was about reversing everything the man fought for during his life. If he were alive today, he'd be pretty pissed about being coopted by Beck's modern white power movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. Unless you are one of the Beck supporters how can you possibly apologize on their behalf. I don't assume all muslims are terrorists, or all blonds are dumb, or all white people are glenn beck supporters. I assume others see that support for political issues is not linked to the color of one's skin or religion or hair color any other distinguishing characteristic.

I reread my post and nowhere do I see the word "apology". I am not apologizing for Bech because there is no need to do so. He and his supporters have the same right toassemble as the supporters of MLK's "I Have A Dream Speech." I think MLK would also have supported Becj's right to speak and his supporters to assemble because he was for "Equality" not "Special Treatment."

Huh??? Apology is the 7th word of the post and Sorry is the first word of the title. It sure sounded like an apology to me.

In this country "Freedom of Speech" is a guaranteed Constitutional right even if you don't like what is being said. Glen Beck, et. al, have as much right to speak and assemble as do MLK group. Shame on you for wanting to take away someone else's rights by trying to be so damn politically correct.

My post in in italics and as I count the 7th word is "is" and, again, the word "apology" does not appear. There is nothing in my post that sounds even remotely apologetic because there is nothing to apologize for becaue Beck, Palin, Sharpton, and you have have guananteed free speech. It does help if one actually knows to which post one is responding. Otherwise, it makes the responder look like a fool.