I don’t hate Brene Brown

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find her work … extremely obvious.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find her work … extremely obvious.

This is correct. There is nothing new here. She is white, has a good publicist and the timing was good. Used to love her work. Now I feel meh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find her work … extremely obvious.

This is correct. There is nothing new here. She is white, has a good publicist and the timing was good. Used to love her work. Now I feel meh.

OP here. Not sure how race got into this immediately but OK. “Successful white women are racist” seems very 2021.

Anyway - the thing about her “certification” program sounds concerning. But I listen to a lot of podcasts and she’s got a better radio voice than most, and also seems to be a better interviewer than most podcasters.

[Anonymous]

Never heard of her.

[Anonymous]

People like her appeal to women who like therapy, self-help books, life coaches, etc. … they want/need someone to tell them what to do. Sometimes it’s useful, but mostly it’s just obvious.

[Anonymous]

She seems like a grifter to me. It's all vague platitudes.

[Anonymous]

We all had to read Dare to Lead at work and do a multi-week workshop. The concepts were helpful when it was done at an organizational level. I saw some real improvements in the work culture.

I also think there is an overly enthusiastic, almost worship of her that I find annoying and obnoxious when I encounter it!

I have seen a colleague mis-apply it to justify toxic behavior too. One manager (who was already toxic) felt even more empowered to write rude comments in people’s work because “clear is kind” and we should all be “vulnerable” to her feedback. (She was literally writing stuff like “this paragraph made me barf” in people’s work.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all had to read Dare to Lead at work and do a multi-week workshop. The concepts were helpful when it was done at an organizational level. I saw some real improvements in the work culture.

I also think there is an overly enthusiastic, almost worship of her that I find annoying and obnoxious when I encounter it!

I have seen a colleague mis-apply it to justify toxic behavior too. One manager (who was already toxic) felt even more empowered to write rude comments in people’s work because “clear is kind” and we should all be “vulnerable” to her feedback. (She was literally writing stuff like “this paragraph made me barf” in people’s work.)

wow!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People like her appeal to women who like therapy, self-help books, life coaches, etc. … they want/need someone to tell them what to do. Sometimes it’s useful, but mostly it’s just obvious.

OP here. Sure. My comment is mainly about the quality of her podcast which is low bar, because many podcasts are bad. I do enjoy self-help content.

[Anonymous]

I paid to do a journaling course about 10 years ago (her first course I think) that was supposed to allow lifetime access to do at another time and went back a year or two later to try to do it after I was out of baby hell and the course was gone. I thought that was scammy.

[Anonymous]

I find none of what Brown had to offer particularly enlightening but she clearly thinks she offering transformative insight. Also the fact that she has a PhD brings instant credibility but much of her work - maybe all of her most recent work - is not tied to any data or evidence. It’s her POV. This is where she treads into grifter territory for me. Because she clearly leverages her background / academic pedigree as part of her schtick.

She reminds me of Glennon Doyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People like her appeal to women who like therapy, self-help books, life coaches, etc. … they want/need someone to tell them what to do. Sometimes it’s useful, but mostly it’s just obvious.

OP here. Sure. My comment is mainly about the quality of her podcast which is low bar, because many podcasts are bad. I do enjoy self-help content.

Well, if you are the kind of woman who wants/needs/likes getting “advice” from strangers who speak in obvious platitudes, then go for it. There’s nothing wrong with it. It’s not like you’re joining a cult.

The haters are just people who see through it for what it is. I’m an older Gen X who remembers the grip Dr. Laura and others had over some friends. Let’s just say those friends are the ones who have always needed therapy, guidance, help, etc.

Personally, I’d rather listen to a comedy podcast or something related to politics or world events.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just another greedy white woman repackaging the wisdom Black people have learned the hard way. I’m sure she’s relatable to many of you.

Oprah didn’t think so.

Oprah also gave us Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. Her picker isn’t perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another greedy white woman repackaging the wisdom Black people have learned the hard way. I’m sure she’s relatable to many of you.

Oprah didn’t think so.

Oprah gave us Dr Phill Dr Oz and some other author who did not write his book. Ugh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just another greedy white woman repackaging the wisdom Black people have learned the hard way. I’m sure she’s relatable to many of you.

Oprah didn’t think so.

Oprah also gave us Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz. Her picker isn’t perfect.

ICYMI: Oprah is no different than those others.

Oprah got popular and for whatever reason was deemed a brilliant mind worthy of a platform and universal respect. Why? Because she was a good talk show host. That’s it. She doesn’t have special credentials or a notable intellect. She’s just a celeb with a microphone.