Directors

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What do Directors overseeing the various schools/clusters do - Principals' boss?

Add to the bloated bureaucracy of MCPS, do nothing to help students and collect a huge salary. Cut all these positions.

They just increased the number of director positions from 9 to 13 effective this year.

Even more concerning, many directors are principals who failed at leading their schools and end up getting promoted to these positions instead of getting pushed out of the system for performance failure as they would if they worked in the private sector.

Who failed at leading their schools, and what standard determines that?

Are you seriously asking this question?

Yes. The former Whitman principal was just promoted to director, for example. Did he fail?

If you work in MCPS, ask around. People talk. If you’re a parent, ask around. People talk.

You have a lot of homework and learning to do about how MCPS works if you’re naively asking these kinds of questions. Which is fine, but the problem isn’t with what I’m saying. It’s your lack of knowledge.

That is the problem. Talk. Show data, back up without saying, talk.

[Anonymous]

Those who know, what do the directors do? Can you state specific examples?

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What do Directors overseeing the various schools/clusters do - Principals' boss?

Add to the bloated bureaucracy of MCPS, do nothing to help students and collect a huge salary. Cut all these positions.

They just increased the number of director positions from 9 to 13 effective this year.

Even more concerning, many directors are principals who failed at leading their schools and end up getting promoted to these positions instead of getting pushed out of the system for performance failure as they would if they worked in the private sector.

Who failed at leading their schools, and what standard determines that?

Are you seriously asking this question?

Yes. The former Whitman principal was just promoted to director, for example. Did he fail?

If you work in MCPS, ask around. People talk. If you’re a parent, ask around. People talk.

You have a lot of homework and learning to do about how MCPS works if you’re naively asking these kinds of questions. Which is fine, but the problem isn’t with what I’m saying. It’s your lack of knowledge.

If you're making broad generalizations without backing them up, the problem is with what you're saying.

I cannot get into specifics on this forum because it will be taken down by Jeff.

But you know this, and you’re trolling.

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What do Directors overseeing the various schools/clusters do - Principals' boss?

Add to the bloated bureaucracy of MCPS, do nothing to help students and collect a huge salary. Cut all these positions.

They just increased the number of director positions from 9 to 13 effective this year.

Even more concerning, many directors are principals who failed at leading their schools and end up getting promoted to these positions instead of getting pushed out of the system for performance failure as they would if they worked in the private sector.

Who failed at leading their schools, and what standard determines that?

Are you seriously asking this question?

Yes. The former Whitman principal was just promoted to director, for example. Did he fail?

If you work in MCPS, ask around. People talk. If you’re a parent, ask around. People talk.

You have a lot of homework and learning to do about how MCPS works if you’re naively asking these kinds of questions. Which is fine, but the problem isn’t with what I’m saying. It’s your lack of knowledge.

If you're making broad generalizations without backing them up, the problem is with what you're saying.

I cannot get into specifics on this forum because it will be taken down by Jeff.

But you know this, and you’re trolling.

dP.
Why would it be taken down?
It is simply asking what they do.

[Anonymous]

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What do Directors overseeing the various schools/clusters do - Principals' boss?

Add to the bloated bureaucracy of MCPS, do nothing to help students and collect a huge salary. Cut all these positions.

They just increased the number of director positions from 9 to 13 effective this year.

Even more concerning, many directors are principals who failed at leading their schools and end up getting promoted to these positions instead of getting pushed out of the system for performance failure as they would if they worked in the private sector.

Who failed at leading their schools, and what standard determines that?

Pretty easy to research their records at their last school before becoming directors (test performance, graduation rate, staff turnover rate, climate surveys, etc). However, very little of this is taken into account in the hiring process, it is still based more on who executive leaders want, for whatever reasons.

[Anonymous]

I've seen parents agitate to the director successfully for things, often things the principal wanted but didn't have the juice to get themselves. But broadly speaking, they are there to guide and coach the principal. They help with messaging or communicate expectations around messaging after events, such as a weapon in the school or racist incident at school or a teacher getting arrested. They can help principals make a case for extra staffing. During Covid they were an extra layer of support. They don't in my experience do anything that supports staff or students directly. I have seen a director in my school a handful of times but never interacted with them. Sometimes principal are promoted to that role to keep them if they otherwise might have left the system. They can be good or not good, probably depending on who you ask. If the principal isn't performing, they might get involved.

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen parents agitate to the director successfully for things, often things the principal wanted but didn't have the juice to get themselves. But broadly speaking, they are there to guide and coach the principal. They help with messaging or communicate expectations around messaging after events, such as a weapon in the school or racist incident at school or a teacher getting arrested. They can help principals make a case for extra staffing. During Covid they were an extra layer of support. They don't in my experience do anything that supports staff or students directly. I have seen a director in my school a handful of times but never interacted with them. Sometimes principal are promoted to that role to keep them if they otherwise might have left the system. They can be good or not good, probably depending on who you ask. If the principal isn't performing, they might get involved.

What? Cram isn't doing that?

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Dunno. Maybe Cram tells directors who tell principals what to say and when and to whom.

[Anonymous]

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What do Directors overseeing the various schools/clusters do - Principals' boss?

Add to the bloated bureaucracy of MCPS, do nothing to help students and collect a huge salary. Cut all these positions.

They just increased the number of director positions from 9 to 13 effective this year.

Even more concerning, many directors are principals who failed at leading their schools and end up getting promoted to these positions instead of getting pushed out of the system for performance failure as they would if they worked in the private sector.

Who failed at leading their schools, and what standard determines that?

Are you seriously asking this question?

Yes. The former Whitman principal was just promoted to director, for example. Did he fail?

If you work in MCPS, ask around. People talk. If you’re a parent, ask around. People talk.

You have a lot of homework and learning to do about how MCPS works if you’re naively asking these kinds of questions. Which is fine, but the problem isn’t with what I’m saying. It’s your lack of knowledge.

If you're making broad generalizations without backing them up, the problem is with what you're saying.

I cannot get into specifics on this forum because it will be taken down by Jeff.

But you know this, and you’re trolling.

Actually you're the one trolling. You're making a lot of accusations without proof.
We are supposed to just take your words for it?
DP

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Anonymous wrote:https://docs.google.com/document/d/171dSLvSc05w51yLP7cPL_HjZD7_1e49M_iX14zwxQlg/mobilebasic

What do Directors overseeing the various schools/clusters do - Principals' boss?

Add to the bloated bureaucracy of MCPS, do nothing to help students and collect a huge salary. Cut all these positions.

They just increased the number of director positions from 9 to 13 effective this year.

Even more concerning, many directors are principals who failed at leading their schools and end up getting promoted to these positions instead of getting pushed out of the system for performance failure as they would if they worked in the private sector.

Who failed at leading their schools, and what standard determines that?

Are you seriously asking this question?

Yes. The former Whitman principal was just promoted to director, for example. Did he fail?

If you work in MCPS, ask around. People talk. If you’re a parent, ask around. People talk.

You have a lot of homework and learning to do about how MCPS works if you’re naively asking these kinds of questions. Which is fine, but the problem isn’t with what I’m saying. It’s your lack of knowledge.

If you're making broad generalizations without backing them up, the problem is with what you're saying.

I cannot get into specifics on this forum because it will be taken down by Jeff.

But you know this, and you’re trolling.

Actually you're the one trolling. You're making a lot of accusations without proof.
We are supposed to just take your words for it?
DP

You don’t have to do anything. Believe what you want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They aren't bosses.

Incorrect. They are the principals' bosses.

When is the last time a director promoted, fired, or reprimanded a principal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They aren't bosses.

Incorrect. They are the principals' bosses.

When is the last time a director promoted, fired, or reprimanded a principal?

I have no idea.

I'm not saying they are effective bosses. But they are, in fact, the principals' bosses.

[Anonymous]

Donna Redmond Jones was the director for Paint Branch who directly hired Beidleman. She was moved to HR while the scandal was erupting. Now she’s back as the director for PB - eye roll.

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Anonymous wrote:Donna Redmond Jones was the director for Paint Branch who directly hired Beidleman. She was moved to HR while the scandal was erupting. Now she’s back as the director for PB - eye roll.

Wasn't she Principal of B-CC prior to CO?

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Anonymous wrote:Donna Redmond Jones was the director for Paint Branch who directly hired Beidleman. She was moved to HR while the scandal was erupting. Now she’s back as the director for PB - eye roll.

Wasn't she Principal of B-CC prior to CO?

Looks like she was:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/827190.page