Why use electric buses if MCPS diesel stays same?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

12% electric for MCPS in 2023

Enrollment down

Diesel fuel purchase went up

Where did you get these numbers?

86/1300 is less than 10%

Fuel usage variation at this point depends more on routing assignments and how many virtual days there are.

Usage is down 3% from precovid (0 EV) to 2023 (5% EV) while enrollment has increased.

Enrollment has decreased by thousands.

Read the budget.

[Anonymous]

Diesel use is going up because -- shocker! -- MCPS deployed more diesel buses, particularly for (apparently increasing) special routes.

https://moco360.media/2023/10/18/after-purchase-of-diesel-vehicles-activists-worry-future-of-mcps-bus-electrification-is-on-fumes/

[Anonymous]

New developments in the diesel and electric fleet saga.

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2024/10/15/protest-filed-against-new-mcps-bus-contract/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Diesel use is going up because -- shocker! -- MCPS deployed more diesel buses, particularly for (apparently increasing) special routes.

https://moco360.media/2023/10/18/after-purchase-of-diesel-vehicles-activists-worry-future-of-mcps-bus-electrification-is-on-fumes/

That isn’t what the article says. If you read Taylor’s memo last week, the EVs don’t hold a charge for the whole day and can’t be used on mid day runs. The EVs can’t replace diesel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

What manipulation? McKnight was clear that consumption of diesel would go down. Did the Parents Coalition make her lie?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from Parents Coalition is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

They aren't lying, the cost-benefit isn't there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

If your position is that somehow, the Parents Coalition is in the wrong here and not MCPS, then you're not engaging in this conversation with honesty and integrity. Say whatever you want about the MOTIVES of the Parents Coalition, but they have repeatedly, on this issue, done nothing but report facts and expose MCPS for the corrupt entity that it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

If your position is that somehow, the Parents Coalition is in the wrong here and not MCPS, then you're not engaging in this conversation with honesty and integrity. Say whatever you want about the MOTIVES of the Parents Coalition, but they have repeatedly, on this issue, done nothing but report facts and expose MCPS for the corrupt entity that it is.

ABC7
https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-school-board-approves-millions-diesel-bus-purchase-closed-session-janis-sartucci-parents-coalition-concerns-maryland-dmv-school-system#

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

If your position is that somehow, the Parents Coalition is in the wrong here and not MCPS, then you're not engaging in this conversation with honesty and integrity. Say whatever you want about the MOTIVES of the Parents Coalition, but they have repeatedly, on this issue, done nothing but report facts and expose MCPS for the corrupt entity that it is.

ABC7
https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-school-board-approves-millions-diesel-bus-purchase-closed-session-janis-sartucci-parents-coalition-concerns-maryland-dmv-school-system#

Given all that is going on surrounding the purchase of buses, approving this in closed session is very poor decision making lacking awareness of how such decision would be viewed, regardless of procedure. Heck, even as a consent item during a general BOE open session someone should have been sure it was openly talked about even if the BOE members had no questions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

If your position is that somehow, the Parents Coalition is in the wrong here and not MCPS, then you're not engaging in this conversation with honesty and integrity. Say whatever you want about the MOTIVES of the Parents Coalition, but they have repeatedly, on this issue, done nothing but report facts and expose MCPS for the corrupt entity that it is.

ABC7
https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-school-board-approves-millions-diesel-bus-purchase-closed-session-janis-sartucci-parents-coalition-concerns-maryland-dmv-school-system#

Given all that is going on surrounding the purchase of buses, approving this in closed session is very poor decision making lacking awareness of how such decision would be viewed, regardless of procedure. Heck, even as a consent item during a general BOE open session someone should have been sure it was openly talked about even if the BOE members had no questions.

The contract was approved during the open session, not the closed session. Item 6.2: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=D67HLW490E12

But I agree that a board member could have pulled the item as an opportunity to share more information with the public before the vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fleet was less than 5% electric last year, and 2% the yes before.

PC are dumb or trolls.

Anything from MCPS is either lies, manipulation, half-truths,and trolling.

Fixed it for you. Data is from MCPS.

Data is from MCPS but the manipulation of the data is from parents coalition, as usual.

If your position is that somehow, the Parents Coalition is in the wrong here and not MCPS, then you're not engaging in this conversation with honesty and integrity. Say whatever you want about the MOTIVES of the Parents Coalition, but they have repeatedly, on this issue, done nothing but report facts and expose MCPS for the corrupt entity that it is.

ABC7
https://wjla.com/news/local/montgomery-county-school-board-approves-millions-diesel-bus-purchase-closed-session-janis-sartucci-parents-coalition-concerns-maryland-dmv-school-system#

Given all that is going on surrounding the purchase of buses, approving this in closed session is very poor decision making lacking awareness of how such decision would be viewed, regardless of procedure. Heck, even as a consent item during a general BOE open session someone should have been sure it was openly talked about even if the BOE members had no questions.

The contract was approved during the open session, not the closed session. Item 6.2: https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=D67HLW490E12

But I agree that a board member could have pulled the item as an opportunity to share more information with the public before the vote.

You mean discussed in closed session and rubber stamped in open meeting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Monifa lied. That is obvious. And the EV buses were sold and bought on a pack of lies.

They use coal and diesel to make the electricity for the busses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monifa lied. That is obvious. And the EV buses were sold and bought on a pack of lies.

They use coal and diesel to make the electricity for the busses.

Now BOE is hiding all these discussions. What happened to their plan for an all electric bus fleet?