College RoI by major and college

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The eight Ivies have a better return on investment than many other nonprofit four-year colleges, Bloomberg reported on Friday. The elite institutions have a typical 10-year ROI of $265,500, an analysis by the outlet shows. That’s twice the return of 63 “Hidden Ivies”—other top private colleges—and almost three times the median of all other schools included in Bloomberg’s research.

To get these numbers, Bloomberg used data from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce. Notably, it doesn’t include students who paid full price to attend school. Rather, the data encompass those who got some financial aid from their university. For that group, the average Ivy alum earns $90,500 a year, according to Bloomberg, while those who went to a Hidden Ivy earn $72,600 a year. Plus, Ivy grads paid 18 percent less than Hidden Ivy grads.

https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/finance/ivy-league-return-on-investment-1235580181/amp/

makes the data a lot less relevant to most of dcum

Nope. financial aid include any type of student loans and parent loan.
It applies majority of of middle to upper middle class.
This provides better real information eliminating trust fund type kids who work for their dads or fancy connections.

Kids of Biden or Trump making $10mil means shit to average people and it should be omitted.

most of dcum posters are full pay with HHI over 350k. Many of them think they should get aid because they do not believe they are rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The eight Ivies have a better return on investment than many other nonprofit four-year colleges, Bloomberg reported on Friday. The elite institutions have a typical 10-year ROI of $265,500, an analysis by the outlet shows. That’s twice the return of 63 “Hidden Ivies”—other top private colleges—and almost three times the median of all other schools included in Bloomberg’s research.

To get these numbers, Bloomberg used data from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce. Notably, it doesn’t include students who paid full price to attend school. Rather, the data encompass those who got some financial aid from their university. For that group, the average Ivy alum earns $90,500 a year, according to Bloomberg, while those who went to a Hidden Ivy earn $72,600 a year. Plus, Ivy grads paid 18 percent less than Hidden Ivy grads.

https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/finance/ivy-league-return-on-investment-1235580181/amp/

Most selective college demographic stats are fake because they use Federal financial aid data, excluding full pay, which is a substantial portion of selective colleges.
Classism in USA lives on.

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"10 year RoI" in "$250K" range is ridiculous when people go to these schools en route to amassing $5+.

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It’s interesting that majoring in Math instead of physics effectively doubles your ROI.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting that majoring in Math instead of physics effectively doubles your ROI.

Not really. A lot probably go into finance.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know many turning down Ivies. I think parents will look for something to make themselves feel good. With 3-5% acceptance rate it’s a choice very few have the luxury of even making.

This. Everyone I know in DMV (if kid remotely has stats) puts some Ivies on the list as ultra-reach. The conversation is always— kid is going to X—unless they get into an Ivy and then we will pay.

Just look at this board and the industry of private counselors aimed at getting kids into an Ivy. It’s a Tiger Mom/Dad’s wet dream.

When they don’t succeed, cue the veiled puppeted responses putting down the schools their kids got rejected from.

And when they don’t get into one…
Cue trashing everyone else and looking for studies for reasons their kid is at second or third choice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s interesting that majoring in Math instead of physics effectively doubles your ROI.

Not really. A lot probably go into finance.

You could do the same move with a physics degree. You need a ton of math and often a major to even get through a physics degree in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:^ sorry. I missed Michigan, Ga Tech and UC Berkley

And UVa and Cal Poly SLO....

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List is tilted a bit towards places which offer STEM degrees.

Separately, Cal Poly SLO and Santa Clara both send a lot of their STEM graduates to Silly Valley.

UC Berkeley, Michigan, and Virginia do well among public broad-scope universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Stripped of for profit colleges and nursing/pharmacy colleges/maritime:



1. CalTech
2. MIT
3. Univ. of Health Sciences and Pharmacy (St. Louis)
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Stanford
6. Harvard
7. Olin College of Engineering
8. Carnegie Mellon
9. Penn
10. Columbia
11. Princeton
12. Johns Hopkins
13. Duke
14. Chicago
15. Babson
16. Cornell
17. Dartmouth
18. Stevens Inst. of Tech, New Jersey
19. Georgia Tech
20. Georgetown
21. Worcester Polytech
22. Yale
23. Lehigh
24. Santa Clara
25. WashUniv in St. Louis
26. Bentely Univ, Waltham, MA
27. Notre Dame
28. Northwestern
29. Rensselaer Polytech, Troy, NY
30. Villanova
31. Rose Hulman Inst. of Tech, Indiana
32. UC Berkeley
33. Colorado School of Mines
34. Claremont McKenna
35. Northeastern
36. Washington and Lee
37. Vanderbilt
38. USC
39. Michigan
40. Boston College
41. Univ. of Virginia
42. Rice
43. George Washington Univ
44. Tufts
45. Cal Poly SLO
46. Univ. of Rochester
47. Bucknell
48. Wake Forest
49. Fairfield univ
50. Brown
51. SMU

My kid did not attend one of these, but he’s in a bank training program with many kids from these schools plus Ivies and state flagships and a few outlier schools like his. You get the best RoI sending your kid somewhere they’ll excel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The eight Ivies have a better return on investment than many other nonprofit four-year colleges, Bloomberg reported on Friday. The elite institutions have a typical 10-year ROI of $265,500, an analysis by the outlet shows. That’s twice the return of 63 “Hidden Ivies”—other top private colleges—and almost three times the median of all other schools included in Bloomberg’s research.

To get these numbers, Bloomberg used data from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce. Notably, it doesn’t include students who paid full price to attend school. Rather, the data encompass those who got some financial aid from their university. For that group, the average Ivy alum earns $90,500 a year, according to Bloomberg, while those who went to a Hidden Ivy earn $72,600 a year. Plus, Ivy grads paid 18 percent less than Hidden Ivy grads.

https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/finance/ivy-league-return-on-investment-1235580181/amp/

Well, of course. If you are low SES and your kid is Ivy material, go for it! But for most of us NW-dwelling DCUMs, it’s a different calculation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stripped of for profit colleges and nursing/pharmacy colleges/maritime:



1. CalTech
2. MIT
3. Univ. of Health Sciences and Pharmacy (St. Louis)
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Stanford
6. Harvard
7. Olin College of Engineering
8. Carnegie Mellon
9. Penn
10. Columbia
11. Princeton
12. Johns Hopkins
13. Duke
14. Chicago
15. Babson
16. Cornell
17. Dartmouth
18. Stevens Inst. of Tech, New Jersey
19. Georgia Tech
20. Georgetown
21. Worcester Polytech
22. Yale
23. Lehigh
24. Santa Clara
25. WashUniv in St. Louis
26. Bentely Univ, Waltham, MA
27. Notre Dame
28. Northwestern
29. Rensselaer Polytech, Troy, NY
30. Villanova
31. Rose Hulman Inst. of Tech, Indiana
32. UC Berkeley
33. Colorado School of Mines
34. Claremont McKenna
35. Northeastern
36. Washington and Lee
37. Vanderbilt
38. USC
39. Michigan
40. Boston College
41. Univ. of Virginia
42. Rice
43. George Washington Univ
44. Tufts
45. Cal Poly SLO
46. Univ. of Rochester
47. Bucknell
48. Wake Forest
49. Fairfield univ
50. Brown
51. SMU

My kid did not attend one of these, but he’s in a bank training program with many kids from these schools plus Ivies and state flagships and a few outlier schools like his. You get the best RoI sending your kid somewhere they’ll excel.

If there's one kid from Special Snowflake U and all the rest of the kids are from ivies and top tech schools, that means ivies and top tech schools are statistically the safest bet for that program. Congrats on your kids being the outlier but generalizing from outliers is bad practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The eight Ivies have a better return on investment than many other nonprofit four-year colleges, Bloomberg reported on Friday. The elite institutions have a typical 10-year ROI of $265,500, an analysis by the outlet shows. That’s twice the return of 63 “Hidden Ivies”—other top private colleges—and almost three times the median of all other schools included in Bloomberg’s research.

To get these numbers, Bloomberg used data from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce. Notably, it doesn’t include students who paid full price to attend school. Rather, the data encompass those who got some financial aid from their university. For that group, the average Ivy alum earns $90,500 a year, according to Bloomberg, while those who went to a Hidden Ivy earn $72,600 a year. Plus, Ivy grads paid 18 percent less than Hidden Ivy grads.

https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/finance/ivy-league-return-on-investment-1235580181/amp/

Well, of course. If you are low SES and your kid is Ivy material, go for it! But for most of us NW-dwelling DCUMs, it’s a different calculation.

Is there any evidence to support the assertion that most posters here are full pay? Thread noise would make you think that, but it seems statistically improbable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The eight Ivies have a better return on investment than many other nonprofit four-year colleges, Bloomberg reported on Friday. The elite institutions have a typical 10-year ROI of $265,500, an analysis by the outlet shows. That’s twice the return of 63 “Hidden Ivies”—other top private colleges—and almost three times the median of all other schools included in Bloomberg’s research.

To get these numbers, Bloomberg used data from Georgetown University’s Center on Education and the Workforce. Notably, it doesn’t include students who paid full price to attend school. Rather, the data encompass those who got some financial aid from their university. For that group, the average Ivy alum earns $90,500 a year, according to Bloomberg, while those who went to a Hidden Ivy earn $72,600 a year. Plus, Ivy grads paid 18 percent less than Hidden Ivy grads.

https://robbreport.com/lifestyle/finance/ivy-league-return-on-investment-1235580181/amp/

Well, of course. If you are low SES and your kid is Ivy material, go for it! But for most of us NW-dwelling DCUMs, it’s a different calculation.

Is there any evidence to support the assertion that most posters here are full pay? Thread noise would make you think that, but it seems statistically improbable.

Impossible to know - no useful data. That said, it does not seem statistically improbable to me. DCUM has skewed demographics, biased towards locations where 1%ers live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stripped of for profit colleges and nursing/pharmacy colleges/maritime:



1. CalTech
2. MIT
3. Univ. of Health Sciences and Pharmacy (St. Louis)
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Stanford
6. Harvard
7. Olin College of Engineering
8. Carnegie Mellon
9. Penn
10. Columbia
11. Princeton
12. Johns Hopkins
13. Duke
14. Chicago
15. Babson
16. Cornell
17. Dartmouth
18. Stevens Inst. of Tech, New Jersey
19. Georgia Tech
20. Georgetown
21. Worcester Polytech
22. Yale
23. Lehigh
24. Santa Clara
25. WashUniv in St. Louis
26. Bentely Univ, Waltham, MA
27. Notre Dame
28. Northwestern
29. Rensselaer Polytech, Troy, NY
30. Villanova
31. Rose Hulman Inst. of Tech, Indiana
32. UC Berkeley
33. Colorado School of Mines
34. Claremont McKenna
35. Northeastern
36. Washington and Lee
37. Vanderbilt
38. USC
39. Michigan
40. Boston College
41. Univ. of Virginia
42. Rice
43. George Washington Univ
44. Tufts
45. Cal Poly SLO
46. Univ. of Rochester
47. Bucknell
48. Wake Forest
49. Fairfield univ
50. Brown
51. SMU

My kid did not attend one of these, but he’s in a bank training program with many kids from these schools plus Ivies and state flagships and a few outlier schools like his. You get the best RoI sending your kid somewhere they’ll excel.

If there's one kid from Special Snowflake U and all the rest of the kids are from ivies and top tech schools, that means ivies and top tech schools are statistically the safest bet for that program. Congrats on your kids being the outlier but generalizing from outliers is bad practice.

ding ding! it is a much easier path to the top when you start at a target school