Mlsnext and Fall HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For public high schools, I have no idea.

But for private schools, there def are kids who are in certain schools bc of a financial package that includes playing on the team.

And plenty with rich parents not scholarship playing too. It’s easy for them to bend the rules.

The exception is not limited to scholarship students; it also includes students who might not have been good enough to be accepted into the private school they attend but were accepted based at least in part on their athletic skill and expectation they would play for the school.

There are some kids who have worked out a deal with clubs and playing public school soccer in the fall and MLS Next in the spring. They are paying for the full year of MLS Next. Here's what that means:
1. MLS Next, or at least the clubs in the league, realize they can't own a kid.
2. Pay for play is more alive now than ever. Got the cash? We'll save your spot.
3. MLS Next must not be the pathway to pro that they claim to be.
4. See 3 - Many ECNL teams are just as good or better than MLSN.
5. Patch on sleeve chasing is just that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For public high schools, I have no idea.

But for private schools, there def are kids who are in certain schools bc of a financial package that includes playing on the team.

And plenty with rich parents not scholarship playing too. It’s easy for them to bend the rules.

The exception is not limited to scholarship students; it also includes students who might not have been good enough to be accepted into the private school they attend but were accepted based at least in part on their athletic skill and expectation they would play for the school.

There are some kids who have worked out a deal with clubs and playing public school soccer in the fall and MLS Next in the spring. They are paying for the full year of MLS Next. Here's what that means:
1. MLS Next, or at least the clubs in the league, realize they can't own a kid.
2. Pay for play is more alive now than ever. Got the cash? We'll save your spot.
3. MLS Next must not be the pathway to pro that they claim to be.
4. See 3 - Many ECNL teams are just as good or better than MLSN.
5. Patch on sleeve chasing is just that.

Did you just cut and paste this disjointed comment from another thread?

Yes, ECNL is better than La Liga.
We understand.
Feel better now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For public high schools, I have no idea.

But for private schools, there def are kids who are in certain schools bc of a financial package that includes playing on the team.

And plenty with rich parents not scholarship playing too. It’s easy for them to bend the rules.

The exception is not limited to scholarship students; it also includes students who might not have been good enough to be accepted into the private school they attend but were accepted based at least in part on their athletic skill and expectation they would play for the school.

There are some kids who have worked out a deal with clubs and playing public school soccer in the fall and MLS Next in the spring. They are paying for the full year of MLS Next. Here's what that means:
1. MLS Next, or at least the clubs in the league, realize they can't own a kid.
2. Pay for play is more alive now than ever. Got the cash? We'll save your spot.
3. MLS Next must not be the pathway to pro that they claim to be.
4. See 3 - Many ECNL teams are just as good or better than MLSN.
5. Patch on sleeve chasing is just that.

Your #1 is quite stupid.
The kid voluntarily tried their best to join a league/team that everyone knows has stipulations against playing low level HS soccer.
So how is the league or team trying to own sense of entitlement and privilege junior?

#2 just as dumb.
Which MLS Next team needs to save a spot when all ECNL kids would love to join the Bigger Better league? They can fill the roster easily.

#3-#5 is just your insecurities whining

[Anonymous]

It’s not just to fulfill financial aid. You can also get a waiver to fulfill a school requirement. My kid plays MLS Next and goes to a DMV private that has a sport/PE requirement and doesn’t offer waivers for kids who do outside club sports and also doesn’t offer PE classes. So in order to meet the sport requirement they have to do a team sport. My kid is not doing soccer at school, but some MLS Next kids are for the sports requirement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.

When a top tier academy has occasional 2-a-day practice at select periods during the season (mainly off-season) it is carefully planned, scheduled and coordinated to prevent overuse and overtraining injuries.
Overseen by professionals

The MLS team 4 days training are planned around periodization of effort and work load based on their game/practice schedules.
It doesn't take into account the excessive physical loads of a morning HS (or any other) session by the Geography teacher on young bodies.

So overuse injuries are all but guaranteed.

Stop just looking at the amount of time.
There are more nuances than that.

[Anonymous]

HS games are very rough and physical. It happens when you are playing lower level players. Our private plays some small s hills which don’t have enough soccer players so there are hockey and rugby players playing soccer. They do t know how to tackle properly. Hence a lot more chance for injury. Add some HS coaches that favor kick and run and zero one if the midfield…and bam!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HS games are very rough and physical. It happens when you are playing lower level players. Our private plays some small s hills which don’t have enough soccer players so there are hockey and rugby players playing soccer. They do t know how to tackle properly. Hence a lot more chance for injury. Add some HS coaches that favor kick and run and zero one if the midfield…and bam!

* small schools. We have a pool of 1,900 males to pull from and some of these schools have 1/4 to 1/8 of that. Not exactly a level playing field. You get schools fielding all MLSNext and ecnl players vs rec or never before soccer players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.

When a top tier academy has occasional 2-a-day practice at select periods during the season (mainly off-season) it is carefully planned, scheduled and coordinated to prevent overuse and overtraining injuries.
Overseen by professionals

The MLS team 4 days training are planned around periodization of effort and work load based on their game/practice schedules.
It doesn't take into account the excessive physical loads of a morning HS (or any other) session by the Geography teacher on young bodies.

So overuse injuries are all but guaranteed.

Stop just looking at the amount of time.
There are more nuances than that.

Off-season for youth soccer is winter and summer -- are you claiming that MLS Academy kids hold one 90 minute training session daily during the fall and spring youth soccer seasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.

When a top tier academy has occasional 2-a-day practice at select periods during the season (mainly off-season) it is carefully planned, scheduled and coordinated to prevent overuse and overtraining injuries.
Overseen by professionals

The MLS team 4 days training are planned around periodization of effort and work load based on their game/practice schedules.
It doesn't take into account the excessive physical loads of a morning HS (or any other) session by the Geography teacher on young bodies.

So overuse injuries are all but guaranteed.

Stop just looking at the amount of time.
There are more nuances than that.

Off-season for youth soccer is winter and summer -- are you claiming that MLS Academy kids hold one 90 minute training session daily during the fall and spring youth soccer seasons?

MLS Academy teams train 4 days a week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.

When a top tier academy has occasional 2-a-day practice at select periods during the season (mainly off-season) it is carefully planned, scheduled and coordinated to prevent overuse and overtraining injuries.
Overseen by professionals

The MLS team 4 days training are planned around periodization of effort and work load based on their game/practice schedules.
It doesn't take into account the excessive physical loads of a morning HS (or any other) session by the Geography teacher on young bodies.

So overuse injuries are all but guaranteed.

Stop just looking at the amount of time.
There are more nuances than that.

Off-season for youth soccer is winter and summer -- are you claiming that MLS Academy kids hold one 90 minute training session daily during the fall and spring youth soccer seasons?

MLS Academy teams train 4 days a week

4 days a week for 90 minutes a day is the MLS Academy training schedule ... that's why they have kids live on-site and go to special schools, for those 90 minutes a day 4x a week training sessions. Right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse, why go after HS + MLS Next?

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?

I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 

You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club. My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.

When a top tier academy has occasional 2-a-day practice at select periods during the season (mainly off-season) it is carefully planned, scheduled and coordinated to prevent overuse and overtraining injuries.
Overseen by professionals

The MLS team 4 days training are planned around periodization of effort and work load based on their game/practice schedules.
It doesn't take into account the excessive physical loads of a morning HS (or any other) session by the Geography teacher on young bodies.

So overuse injuries are all but guaranteed.

Stop just looking at the amount of time.
There are more nuances than that.

Off-season for youth soccer is winter and summer -- are you claiming that MLS Academy kids hold one 90 minute training session daily during the fall and spring youth soccer seasons?

MLS Academy teams train 4 days a week

4 days a week for 90 minutes a day is the MLS Academy training schedule ... that's why they have kids live on-site and go to special schools, for those 90 minutes a day 4x a week training sessions. Right.

What did you say that changed the fact that they train 4 days a week?