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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless you have a quest for an injured kid from overuse,  why go after HS + MLS Next?[/quote]

Does a 17-year-old kid playing for HS + club have more practice/playing time, and more "overuse", than a 17-year-old kid playing for a professional soccer club? How about those kids who attend MLS "academies" (e.g., Philadelphia Union) where the school is integrated into the soccer academy -- do they train less than a kid playing HS + club?  [/quote]

There is a high occurrence of injuries in HS soccer because of factors including over reliance on physicality training at high volume being run by unqualified coaches.

Is that happening at 7am at Philly Union to be followed by evening training sessions not coordinated with the morning sessions? 4-5 days a week plus HS game and 2 MLS Next games weekly?
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I legitimately don't know which is why I posed the question. There are high school teams that do, in fact, practice at 7am before school due to limited field size. Is it necessarily overuse for a high school kid who sits around all day between 8:30 - 3:30 to then also play more soccer (practice or game) in the afternoon or evening?

MLS Next teams I'm familiar with around here practice 4x week for 90 minutes, with one or sometimes two games per weekend (where if your kid is the star he'll play all 90 minutes, otherwise say 45 minutes); that's about 6.5 hours of soccer each week.

I'm not saying that there is no risk of overuse or that the rougher nature of HS soccer isn't a factor. But in terms of sheer quantity of training time for a healthy teenager who loves soccer, 6.5 hours of playing per week seems underwhelming, and I wonder how it compares with what teenage soccer players are doing in far more successful soccer cultures than ours. 
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You do realize that your mls next kid chose to play year-round soccer for that club.  My kid chose ECNL so they could play hs soccer. There is overuse with playing club and hs and then there's that thing called homework.  [/quote]

Separate discussion, I'm just talking about the "overuse!" claims that repeatedly get thrown around at any mention of a kid playing HS + club.

How many hours of soccer does an ECNL kid play during the HS + club part of the year when they're playing for both teams at the same time? I seem to recall hearing that ECNL clubs reduce their practice schedule to during the HS season, but I don't know the details.

For the record, I don't have any children playing HS + MLS Next. I get the sense that the main reason for the rule is the lower-skill, higher-contact/fouling nature of HS soccer at most public schools (which is probably a fair point) and concern that "low parental involvement" kids will flunk out of school if they're playing both club and HS soccer.[/quote]

[b]When a top tier academy has occasional 2-a-day practice at select periods during the season (mainly off-season)[/b] it is carefully planned, scheduled and coordinated to prevent overuse and overtraining injuries. 
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The MLS team 4 days training are planned around periodization of effort and work load based on their game/practice schedules.
It doesn't take into account the excessive physical loads of a morning HS (or any other) session by the Geography teacher on young bodies.

So overuse injuries are all but guaranteed.

Stop just looking at the amount of time.
There are more nuances than that.[/quote]

Off-season for youth soccer is winter and summer -- are you claiming that MLS Academy kids hold one 90 minute training session daily during the fall and spring youth soccer seasons?[/quote]

MLS Academy teams train 4 days a week[/quote]

4 days a week for 90 minutes a day is the MLS Academy training schedule ... that's why they have kids live on-site and go to special schools, for those 90 minutes a day 4x a week training sessions. Right. [/quote]

What did you say that changed the fact that they train 4 days a week?[/quote]

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