Eating disordered posts

[Anonymous]

What I notice is that there's a heck ton of overweight people, and hardly any underweight people (and those who are underweight are usually either cancer patients or immigrants unused to American diets).

So YES, there's disordered eating: people who eat too much!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why does every dietician/doctor tell me I need more protein then? Why are all
My girlfriends in their 40s/50s obsessed with protein, macros and lifting??!

It's a fad, and not an evidence-based one at that. I doubt real doctors are telling you to eat more protein, OP.

My husband is a doctor - neither he nor his colleagues are on the "more protein, more lifting" bandwagon. Excessive protein is bad for your kidneys. Exercise should be encouraged, but not to extremes, because it can also hurt you - you need to exercise intelligently, vary the type of work, include stretching and not stress joints too much.

The most important problem facing most Americans is obesity. Two thirds of adults here are overweight, making it very difficult for people to see what a healthy figure looks like, since everywhere they go, they see overweight figures. Most people eat way too much processed crap and too many calories.

So no. I understand DCUM, and the US in general, is fixated on pushing back against anorexia. But from a medical perspective, the US is suffering under the financial and life quality burdens of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular issues due to excessive consumption of sugar and fat. Anorexia is not a public health concern, in that very few people actually suffer from a clinical diagnosis.

1. My GP physician is indeed telling me to focus on getting more protein in my diet. Do you think I'm lying?

2. A way to do exactly what you said: encourage (effective) exercise and reduce consumption of sugar and fat is precisely to up protein intake.

Nobody is arguing for extremes here- "excessive exercise" or an "all beef and eggs" diet. But it is weird to me that of all the things to cast shade on getting more protein makes your list.

No. You need to be precise if you want to be healthy. Eating more protein is not the same as reducing sugar and far. Maybe you understand it this way, and that's great, but plenty of people do not, because that's not actually what was said. Also, there is such a thing as eating too much protein - so when you create threads to inquire about increasing your protein intake, just be aware that the excess is not just going to be pissed away in your urine. You will overwork your kidneys.

The volume you would need to consume to "overwork your kidneys" is so high you would have to be an idiot to achieve that anyways. We are glad you think you are some sort of rocket scientist for stumbling on the concept that some people are taking the recommendations to eat more protein to the extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every dietician/doctor tell me I need more protein then? Why are all
My girlfriends in their 40s/50s obsessed with protein, macros and lifting??!

It's a fad, and not an evidence-based one at that. I doubt real doctors are telling you to eat more protein, OP.

My husband is a doctor - neither he nor his colleagues are on the "more protein, more lifting" bandwagon. Excessive protein is bad for your kidneys. Exercise should be encouraged, but not to extremes, because it can also hurt you - you need to exercise intelligently, vary the type of work, include stretching and not stress joints too much.

The most important problem facing most Americans is obesity. Two thirds of adults here are overweight, making it very difficult for people to see what a healthy figure looks like, since everywhere they go, they see overweight figures. Most people eat way too much processed crap and too many calories.

So no. I understand DCUM, and the US in general, is fixated on pushing back against anorexia. But from a medical perspective, the US is suffering under the financial and life quality burdens of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular issues due to excessive consumption of sugar and fat. Anorexia is not a public health concern, in that very few people actually suffer from a clinical diagnosis.

1. My GP physician is indeed telling me to focus on getting more protein in my diet. Do you think I'm lying?

2. A way to do exactly what you said: encourage (effective) exercise and reduce consumption of sugar and fat is precisely to up protein intake.

Nobody is arguing for extremes here- "excessive exercise" or an "all beef and eggs" diet. But it is weird to me that of all the things to cast shade on getting more protein makes your list.

One. Yes I think you’re lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What I notice is that there's a heck ton of overweight people, and hardly any underweight people (and those who are underweight are usually either cancer patients or immigrants unused to American diets).

So YES, there's disordered eating: people who eat too much!

The people accusing average to small size people of being disordered are the overeaters. Based on the numbers of overweight and obese Americans, I can understand how thin people can look "abnormal". to them. It's really unfortunate. And to the pp who doesn't approve of comparatively thin people trying to lose 3 pounds: that 3 pounds on me feels like 50 does on you.

[Anonymous]

I am fit, and thin and when I go out to eat with girlfriends they always pressure me to get the apps with them or drink a sugary cocktail or dessert. I don’t indulge because I like being with people but not filling my body with unnecessary junk. If I have a drink it’s tequila and soda with lime and just one. If I eat an app it’s just sauce less wings veggie and hummus and no dessert. I order lean meat and steamed veggies. I sometimes feel like they talk about me afterward like “Jenny never eats anything with sugar or anything fun! She must have an eating disorder!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What I notice is that there's a heck ton of overweight people, and hardly any underweight people (and those who are underweight are usually either cancer patients or immigrants unused to American diets).

So YES, there's disordered eating: people who eat too much!

The people accusing average to small size people of being disordered are the overeaters. Based on the numbers of overweight and obese Americans, I can understand how thin people can look "abnormal". to them. It's really unfortunate. And to the pp who doesn't approve of comparatively thin people trying to lose 3 pounds: that 3 pounds on me feels like 50 does on you.

I agree! As a petite, slim, person, I feel bullied when people accuse me of being pro-ana when I try to regulate my weight and think about losing a few pounds. Those few pounds are the equivalent of 20+ pounds to other people! I'm not the one with disordered eating here. I love food, but I do what's best for my long-term health.

It's really true that healthy people feel like they don't belong in this country. A majority of people here are overweight and obese, and some hide behind all the exercise they do, and continue to overeat. It's the new normal. That's crazy-making.

[Anonymous]

Protein gives me good energy to do a demanding job and handle life at home. Carbs do not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every dietician/doctor tell me I need more protein then? Why are all
My girlfriends in their 40s/50s obsessed with protein, macros and lifting??!

It's a fad, and not an evidence-based one at that. I doubt real doctors are telling you to eat more protein, OP.

My husband is a doctor - neither he nor his colleagues are on the "more protein, more lifting" bandwagon. Excessive protein is bad for your kidneys. Exercise should be encouraged, but not to extremes, because it can also hurt you - you need to exercise intelligently, vary the type of work, include stretching and not stress joints too much.

The most important problem facing most Americans is obesity. Two thirds of adults here are overweight, making it very difficult for people to see what a healthy figure looks like, since everywhere they go, they see overweight figures. Most people eat way too much processed crap and too many calories.

So no. I understand DCUM, and the US in general, is fixated on pushing back against anorexia. But from a medical perspective, the US is suffering under the financial and life quality burdens of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular issues due to excessive consumption of sugar and fat. Anorexia is not a public health concern, in that very few people actually suffer from a clinical diagnosis.

1. My GP physician is indeed telling me to focus on getting more protein in my diet. Do you think I'm lying?

2. A way to do exactly what you said: encourage (effective) exercise and reduce consumption of sugar and fat is precisely to up protein intake.

Nobody is arguing for extremes here- "excessive exercise" or an "all beef and eggs" diet. But it is weird to me that of all the things to cast shade on getting more protein makes your list.

One. Yes I think you’re lying.

It is your belief that there is not a physician out there who would evaluate a person's overall health and their goals and advise them to up their protein intake?

Just want to be clear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every dietician/doctor tell me I need more protein then? Why are all
My girlfriends in their 40s/50s obsessed with protein, macros and lifting??!

It's a fad, and not an evidence-based one at that. I doubt real doctors are telling you to eat more protein, OP.

My husband is a doctor - neither he nor his colleagues are on the "more protein, more lifting" bandwagon. Excessive protein is bad for your kidneys. Exercise should be encouraged, but not to extremes, because it can also hurt you - you need to exercise intelligently, vary the type of work, include stretching and not stress joints too much.

The most important problem facing most Americans is obesity. Two thirds of adults here are overweight, making it very difficult for people to see what a healthy figure looks like, since everywhere they go, they see overweight figures. Most people eat way too much processed crap and too many calories.

So no. I understand DCUM, and the US in general, is fixated on pushing back against anorexia. But from a medical perspective, the US is suffering under the financial and life quality burdens of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular issues due to excessive consumption of sugar and fat. Anorexia is not a public health concern, in that very few people actually suffer from a clinical diagnosis.

1. My GP physician is indeed telling me to focus on getting more protein in my diet. Do you think I'm lying?

2. A way to do exactly what you said: encourage (effective) exercise and reduce consumption of sugar and fat is precisely to up protein intake.

Nobody is arguing for extremes here- "excessive exercise" or an "all beef and eggs" diet. But it is weird to me that of all the things to cast shade on getting more protein makes your list.

One. Yes I think you’re lying.

It is your belief that there is not a physician out there who would evaluate a person's overall health and their goals and advise them to up their protein intake?

Just want to be clear.

Not the poster you were replying to, but any physician who recommends increasing protein intake is stupid, unless you're vegetarian or vegan, or deliberately tell the physician you're not eating a lot of meat, for some reason best known to yourself.

And no physician worth their salt would ever recommend protein powders except in very specific cases of malnutrition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Protein gives me good energy to do a demanding job and handle life at home. Carbs do not.

Why can't you focus on food. And meals. Just eat. Some meals will have both protein and carbs! Eat a sandwich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every dietician/doctor tell me I need more protein then? Why are all
My girlfriends in their 40s/50s obsessed with protein, macros and lifting??!

It's a fad, and not an evidence-based one at that. I doubt real doctors are telling you to eat more protein, OP.

My husband is a doctor - neither he nor his colleagues are on the "more protein, more lifting" bandwagon. Excessive protein is bad for your kidneys. Exercise should be encouraged, but not to extremes, because it can also hurt you - you need to exercise intelligently, vary the type of work, include stretching and not stress joints too much.

The most important problem facing most Americans is obesity. Two thirds of adults here are overweight, making it very difficult for people to see what a healthy figure looks like, since everywhere they go, they see overweight figures. Most people eat way too much processed crap and too many calories.

So no. I understand DCUM, and the US in general, is fixated on pushing back against anorexia. But from a medical perspective, the US is suffering under the financial and life quality burdens of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular issues due to excessive consumption of sugar and fat. Anorexia is not a public health concern, in that very few people actually suffer from a clinical diagnosis.

1. My GP physician is indeed telling me to focus on getting more protein in my diet. Do you think I'm lying?

2. A way to do exactly what you said: encourage (effective) exercise and reduce consumption of sugar and fat is precisely to up protein intake.

Nobody is arguing for extremes here- "excessive exercise" or an "all beef and eggs" diet. But it is weird to me that of all the things to cast shade on getting more protein makes your list.

No. You need to be precise if you want to be healthy. Eating more protein is not the same as reducing sugar and far. Maybe you understand it this way, and that's great, but plenty of people do not, because that's not actually what was said. Also, there is such a thing as eating too much protein - so when you create threads to inquire about increasing your protein intake, just be aware that the excess is not just going to be pissed away in your urine. You will overwork your kidneys.

Normal people are not in danger of consistently eating so much protein to harm their kidneys. You are fear mongering too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is making these posts about eating as little as possible, measuring everything to the gram, but not understanding that yeah you will not get enough nutrients/protein/fiber if you do not eat enough? There is no hack for getting enough protein to thrive if you literally do not eat.

I have no issues with people who know how much they are eating. I think it’s disordered to avoid that knowledge. Lots of people on this subgroup are just blindly eating “healthy” and are they surprised they weigh more than they expect/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Protein gives me good energy to do a demanding job and handle life at home. Carbs do not.

Of course. They're necessary at every meal, in fact. But it's not recommended, or necessary, to eat more protein than typical. What's important is not eating too much in general. People usually eat too many refined carbs for their own good. This means that if they try to reduce calories, they can't just reduce everything proportionally - they have to reduce refined carbs significantly, eat whole grains, keep the whole fruits and veggies and not reduce lean protein (but ditch animal fat as much as they can, so they often can't eat the same meats they're used to).

Maybe that's where the confusion lies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Protein gives me good energy to do a demanding job and handle life at home. Carbs do not.

Why can't you focus on food. And meals. Just eat. Some meals will have both protein and carbs! Eat a sandwich.

I do eat meals, had seafood rice loaded with shrimp, mussels and clams. And I had a chicken leg for lunch. Since when does protein =! Meat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does every dietician/doctor tell me I need more protein then? Why are all
My girlfriends in their 40s/50s obsessed with protein, macros and lifting??!

It's a fad, and not an evidence-based one at that. I doubt real doctors are telling you to eat more protein, OP.

My husband is a doctor - neither he nor his colleagues are on the "more protein, more lifting" bandwagon. Excessive protein is bad for your kidneys. Exercise should be encouraged, but not to extremes, because it can also hurt you - you need to exercise intelligently, vary the type of work, include stretching and not stress joints too much.

The most important problem facing most Americans is obesity. Two thirds of adults here are overweight, making it very difficult for people to see what a healthy figure looks like, since everywhere they go, they see overweight figures. Most people eat way too much processed crap and too many calories.

So no. I understand DCUM, and the US in general, is fixated on pushing back against anorexia. But from a medical perspective, the US is suffering under the financial and life quality burdens of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular issues due to excessive consumption of sugar and fat. Anorexia is not a public health concern, in that very few people actually suffer from a clinical diagnosis.

1. My GP physician is indeed telling me to focus on getting more protein in my diet. Do you think I'm lying?

2. A way to do exactly what you said: encourage (effective) exercise and reduce consumption of sugar and fat is precisely to up protein intake.

Nobody is arguing for extremes here- "excessive exercise" or an "all beef and eggs" diet. But it is weird to me that of all the things to cast shade on getting more protein makes your list.

One. Yes I think you’re lying.

It is your belief that there is not a physician out there who would evaluate a person's overall health and their goals and advise them to up their protein intake?

Just want to be clear.

Not the poster you were replying to, but any physician who recommends increasing protein intake is stupid, unless you're vegetarian or vegan, or deliberately tell the physician you're not eating a lot of meat, for some reason best known to yourself.

And no physician worth their salt would ever recommend protein powders except in very specific cases of malnutrition.

You can say this without knowing what the baseline protein intake of the patient in question is?