ISO: Advice Re Athletic Recruiting

[Anonymous]

OP, curious - what year is your DC and what sport? The timing of what you describe sounds off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should check out Coach Renee's FB page as it has more info than can be disseminated here.

I don’t recommend it. She’s annoying AF the way she micromanages that page. And she’s really just there to sell her books, services, etc. (Grifter)

[Anonymous]

I'm sorry but wasn't there a thread on pre-read and recruiting just a couple of weeks ago?

[Anonymous]

OP here. DS is a runner. He used to be very focused on D1, but after an injury and some time off, he is now thinking D3 at a really good school is the smarter option (which we parents agree with). And yes the ED decision seems like the hardest part. He is torn between two great options. Just generally wasn't sure how seriously to take coaches' overtures (ds is def taking it seriously...I am the more skeptical one.)

[Anonymous]

You sound refreshingly normal and healthy. Good luck to your son!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. DS is a runner. He used to be very focused on D1, but after an injury and some time off, he is now thinking D3 at a really good school is the smarter option (which we parents agree with). And yes the ED decision seems like the hardest part. He is torn between two great options. Just generally wasn't sure how seriously to take coaches' overtures (ds is def taking it seriously...I am the more skeptical one.)

Running is a little more straightforward because many schools publish times for what they might support, vs walk on.

I would go to the College Confidential athletic recruits page. My understanding is that it's OK for him (not you) to contact the coach at his top 2 choices and find out where he is on the list. He should wait to pick an ED school until he finds out whether he will get coach's support. A positive preread without a coach's support means his chances are the same as any other applicant, so he needs to find out if they are giving that support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are on FB, I recommend joining Coach Renee’s page.

That page is awful. She just refers to her book or tells people to use the search button. Her book does not provide any help in this either. I suggest College Confidential - there is an athletic recruiting forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should check out Coach Renee's FB page as it has more info than can be disseminated here.

I don’t recommend it. She’s annoying AF the way she micromanages that page. And she’s really just there to sell her books, services, etc. (Grifter)

+1000

[Anonymous]

Passing a pre read is great, but kid needs to be promised coach support before EDing. There are definitely people on College confidential who can help you understand the process.

[Anonymous]

Thanks, everyone! I will check out College Confidential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound refreshingly normal and healthy. Good luck to your son!

lol....Thank you. He deserves it. He's worked very hard and led this whole process by himself so far.

[Anonymous]

I have two runners at high academic D3 schools. After a positive prereads, DC1 told the coach they were ready to commit to ED, but coach said he had three runners ahead of them. Did not get the coaches commitment until Sep. DC 2 was committed by July after a positive prereads. Have DS tell coach that he is ready to commit ED and the coach should let him know where he stands

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At highly academic schools, coaches send information about athletes to admissions and get feedback. That feedback might be "Yes, you can use one of your spots for this player", or "Maybe, you can choose a couple players at this level, but not all of them." or "Yes, if they bring their GPA up, or get a certain test score" or "No, they don't meet our standards". Then once they have that information they choose who to admit. So, they might decide your kid is good enough to admit if they are a yes, but not if they are a maybe. Or they might submit for two goalies but only accept one.

There are some situations, like Duke Basketball, or Stanford swimming (these are guesses, just naming teams where they play at a very high level) where a coach might be given a lot of leeway, but that doesn't mean that the squash team gets the same leeway. There are other schools, like Ivies, or NESCAC, or JHU, where there isn't much leeway at all, and athletes need to be academically pretty similar to unrecruited admitted students.

There are a few schools, like MIT and Caltech, where a coach can encourage admissions to take an athlete but it's not a sure thing, even with positive preread.

So a preread doesn't mean he's in, but multiple prereads means he's got a good chance of getting into one of them.

All D1 schools, even Ivies, get leeway for a number of slots for popular sports (proportional to the sport). They are giving commitments after sophomore year with no pre-read…and then literally telling kids what courses to take junior and senior year and minimum gpa to ensure they pass the pre read.

They then get a likely letter issued to those athletes prior to applying which is essentially a 99% chance of acceptance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are on FB, I recommend joining Coach Renee’s page.

That page is awful. She just refers to her book or tells people to use the search button. Her book does not provide any help in this either. I suggest College Confidential - there is an athletic recruiting forum.

If you are a runner or a swimmer, times are times and I agree her FB site is not helpful. She seems to target team sports. There are FB pages specific to swimming that I've found helpful, there are likely ones for running too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At highly academic schools, coaches send information about athletes to admissions and get feedback. That feedback might be "Yes, you can use one of your spots for this player", or "Maybe, you can choose a couple players at this level, but not all of them." or "Yes, if they bring their GPA up, or get a certain test score" or "No, they don't meet our standards". Then once they have that information they choose who to admit. So, they might decide your kid is good enough to admit if they are a yes, but not if they are a maybe. Or they might submit for two goalies but only accept one.

There are some situations, like Duke Basketball, or Stanford swimming (these are guesses, just naming teams where they play at a very high level) where a coach might be given a lot of leeway, but that doesn't mean that the squash team gets the same leeway. There are other schools, like Ivies, or NESCAC, or JHU, where there isn't much leeway at all, and athletes need to be academically pretty similar to unrecruited admitted students.

There are a few schools, like MIT and Caltech, where a coach can encourage admissions to take an athlete but it's not a sure thing, even with positive preread.

So a preread doesn't mean he's in, but multiple prereads means he's got a good chance of getting into one of them.

All D1 schools, even Ivies, get leeway for a number of slots for popular sports (proportional to the sport). They are giving commitments after sophomore year with no pre-read…and then literally telling kids what courses to take junior and senior year and minimum gpa to ensure they pass the pre read.

They then get a likely letter issued to those athletes prior to applying which is essentially a 99% chance of acceptance.

Only Ivies, and a handful of other highly academic schools give likely letters.

Ivies give leeway for sure, but a squash player looking to go to Harvard isn't going to get the same leeway as a swimmer at Stanford or a basketball player at Duke.