Brain scan?

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It answered the why question but it also opened up other questions. Health issues are the base, then you can move to neuropsych testing and subsequent treatment and then socio-emotional stuff.
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See a neurologist who specializes in headaches. It may be meds, it may just be medical but lots of treatments now. I’ve had many scans. Nothing came up. But, don’t ignore this. Get your kid help.
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Anonymous wrote:There are some NIH studies on ADHD that have been recruiting lately - they all include brain scans (but also the commitment of the study itself).


But the purpose of those scans is not diagnostic, it’s experimental. If you think your kid has a neurological issue, see a neurologist, who will order the scans they think are necessary.


DP. We participate in the NIH ADHD research studies. The brain MRIs they do are not experimental. The researchers are looking to see if there are differences between the ADHD and NT brains and the development trajectory - among other things.

When the neurologist who reads the brain MRI identifies something atypical they contact the participants. They have an ethical (if not legal) obligation to do so. This was how we learned my DS has a Chiari Malformation. They showed us on the scan, discussed it with us and suggested we follow up on it with our medical provider. They also sent the report to our doctors and gave us a copy of the MRI.

Of course, the study isn't for primary care but the NIH staff are incredible.


that’s what I said - the brain scans are experimental, ie, part of an experience. they are not meant to diagnose a separate neurological issue like a cyst or tumor (and they cannot diagnose ADHD either but that’s a separate question).

of course a brain MRI can turn up something else or something incidental. which is actually a reason to avoid them. I read a horrifying study about the number of kids subjected to uneccesary brain surgery due to “incedidentalomas”.


Incidental findings are NOT a reason to avoid a scan! Incidentals are a reason to make damn sure you have a good diagnostician. No good brain surgeon does an unnecessary surgery. Knowledge is power, and that girl might have something that a qualified doctor could help her get treated in a meaningful way. Sending that mama so much LOVE.


Incidental findings are absolutely a reason to avoid unnecessary imaging. If a neurologist recommends an MRI then sure.


“Unnecessary” is the key word there. No one is talking about unnecessary imagine. Get off your gatekeeping high horse. That poster’s child has all the symptoms of a brain cyst or worse.


It’s probably not a cyst but it needs checking out. MRI is standard in headache care for rule out.
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Anonymous wrote:There are some NIH studies on ADHD that have been recruiting lately - they all include brain scans (but also the commitment of the study itself).


But the purpose of those scans is not diagnostic, it’s experimental. If you think your kid has a neurological issue, see a neurologist, who will order the scans they think are necessary.


DP. We participate in the NIH ADHD research studies. The brain MRIs they do are not experimental. The researchers are looking to see if there are differences between the ADHD and NT brains and the development trajectory - among other things.

When the neurologist who reads the brain MRI identifies something atypical they contact the participants. They have an ethical (if not legal) obligation to do so. This was how we learned my DS has a Chiari Malformation. They showed us on the scan, discussed it with us and suggested we follow up on it with our medical provider. They also sent the report to our doctors and gave us a copy of the MRI.

Of course, the study isn't for primary care but the NIH staff are incredible.


that’s what I said - the brain scans are experimental, ie, part of an experience. they are not meant to diagnose a separate neurological issue like a cyst or tumor (and they cannot diagnose ADHD either but that’s a separate question).

of course a brain MRI can turn up something else or something incidental. which is actually a reason to avoid them. I read a horrifying study about the number of kids subjected to uneccesary brain surgery due to “incedidentalomas”.


Incidental findings are NOT a reason to avoid a scan! Incidentals are a reason to make damn sure you have a good diagnostician. No good brain surgeon does an unnecessary surgery. Knowledge is power, and that girl might have something that a qualified doctor could help her get treated in a meaningful way. Sending that mama so much LOVE.


Incidental findings are absolutely a reason to avoid unnecessary imaging. If a neurologist recommends an MRI then sure.


“Unnecessary” is the key word there. No one is talking about unnecessary imagine. Get off your gatekeeping high horse. That poster’s child has all the symptoms of a brain cyst or worse.


It’s probably not a cyst but it needs checking out. MRI is standard in headache care for rule out.


No it is not. I literally just took my kid to Children’s for headaches this week. No MRI.
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The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.
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Anonymous wrote:The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.


Yes, but that kid has *something* going on in their brain.
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Classic dcum gatekeepers here. No brain scans for the kids in crisis! Only for precious Larla.
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Anonymous wrote:There are some NIH studies on ADHD that have been recruiting lately - they all include brain scans (but also the commitment of the study itself).


But the purpose of those scans is not diagnostic, it’s experimental. If you think your kid has a neurological issue, see a neurologist, who will order the scans they think are necessary.


DP. We participate in the NIH ADHD research studies. The brain MRIs they do are not experimental. The researchers are looking to see if there are differences between the ADHD and NT brains and the development trajectory - among other things.

When the neurologist who reads the brain MRI identifies something atypical they contact the participants. They have an ethical (if not legal) obligation to do so. This was how we learned my DS has a Chiari Malformation. They showed us on the scan, discussed it with us and suggested we follow up on it with our medical provider. They also sent the report to our doctors and gave us a copy of the MRI.

Of course, the study isn't for primary care but the NIH staff are incredible.


that’s what I said - the brain scans are experimental, ie, part of an experience. they are not meant to diagnose a separate neurological issue like a cyst or tumor (and they cannot diagnose ADHD either but that’s a separate question).

of course a brain MRI can turn up something else or something incidental. which is actually a reason to avoid them. I read a horrifying study about the number of kids subjected to uneccesary brain surgery due to “incedidentalomas”.


Incidental findings are NOT a reason to avoid a scan! Incidentals are a reason to make damn sure you have a good diagnostician. No good brain surgeon does an unnecessary surgery. Knowledge is power, and that girl might have something that a qualified doctor could help her get treated in a meaningful way. Sending that mama so much LOVE.


Incidental findings are absolutely a reason to avoid unnecessary imaging. If a neurologist recommends an MRI then sure.


“Unnecessary” is the key word there. No one is talking about unnecessary imagine. Get off your gatekeeping high horse. That poster’s child has all the symptoms of a brain cyst or worse.


It’s probably not a cyst but it needs checking out. MRI is standard in headache care for rule out.


No it is not. I literally just took my kid to Children’s for headaches this week. No MRI.


Then you had a bad neurologist. I've had several over the years with different neurologists. They usually do it every 5-8 years to rule out things like brain tumors.
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Anonymous wrote:The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.


Yes, but that kid has *something* going on in their brain.


The headaches are a huge concern and can be extremely painful. Any doctor dismissing them is a bad doctor. Kids get headaches and shouldn't have to suffer.
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Anonymous wrote:The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.


Yes, but that kid has *something* going on in their brain.


The headaches are a huge concern and can be extremely painful. Any doctor dismissing them is a bad doctor. Kids get headaches and shouldn't have to suffer.


The violent and pained reactions to everyday stimuli are indicative of a neurological issue. That child has a mother who has tried everything else and is on the brink of collapse. That child needs a scan and extensive physical exams of her neurological system.
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Dr Daniel Amen does pediatric brain scans in Reston, VA.
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Anonymous wrote:The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.


Yes, but that kid has *something* going on in their brain.


The headaches are a huge concern and can be extremely painful. Any doctor dismissing them is a bad doctor. Kids get headaches and shouldn't have to suffer.


The violent and pained reactions to everyday stimuli are indicative of a neurological issue. That child has a mother who has tried everything else and is on the brink of collapse. That child needs a scan and extensive physical exams of her neurological system.


Thats not what OP said but if child is having headaches they need to be treated.
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Anonymous wrote:The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.


Yes, but that kid has *something* going on in their brain.


The headaches are a huge concern and can be extremely painful. Any doctor dismissing them is a bad doctor. Kids get headaches and shouldn't have to suffer.


The violent and pained reactions to everyday stimuli are indicative of a neurological issue. That child has a mother who has tried everything else and is on the brink of collapse. That child needs a scan and extensive physical exams of her neurological system.


Thats not what OP said but if child is having headaches they need to be treated.


Proof you didn’t read the whole thread.
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Dr Daniel Amen does pediatric brain scans in Reston, VA.


Dr. Amen is fabulous.
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Anonymous wrote:The very large majority of kids with behavioral issues do not have a brain cyst. I'm not sure most people need to go down that path.


Yes, but that kid has *something* going on in their brain.


What kid does? The ops kid with headaches? How can you possibly know that?
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