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Anonymous
CoGat:146
NNAT:140
iReady Math: 99
iReady Reading: 99
HOPE score: ?
Accepted/Rejected: Accepted
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church



I'd want to see the packet if I were you. Those iReady scores could be higher but 90% is still good especially for a test that so many have minimized until this year. They might have used different iReady scores in the packet also. All parents should request those packets BEFORE the decisions come out. There is no reason to be wondering about the HOPE scores. Even if the child is admitted, it's going to provide more info as to how he/she is viewed by the school staff.
Anonymous
It’s harder for us.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church



I'd want to see the packet if I were you. Those iReady scores could be higher but 90% is still good especially for a test that so many have minimized until this year. They might have used different iReady scores in the packet also. All parents should request those packets BEFORE the decisions come out. There is no reason to be wondering about the HOPE scores. Even if the child is admitted, it's going to provide more info as to how he/she is viewed by the school staff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s harder for us.

Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church




90% in both reading and math is borderline, no need to blame race consideration.

Good luck on appeal.
Anonymous
So iready math and reading now looked at for admittance? Just the spring scores from 2nd grade if applying for 3rd? Or do all years prior get averaged? Wondering if child had 99 but then had bad test day right before apply if take higher, prior scores into consideration?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church


Definitely appeal. Test scores are obviously all way and above what's needed. The key on appeal this year or on applying next year will be crafting a persuasive explanation of why your child needs AAP (see any FCPS website about the purpose of AAP, etc. and use that language) and showing your child's personality.

If you end up applying next year, you should try to encourage your child to make a good impression on his/her third grade teacher early in the school year since that will help with HOPE scores. I know some on this forum will dislike this suggestion, but this is just a consequence of relying on subjective measures.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church


Definitely appeal. Test scores are obviously all way and above what's needed. The key on appeal this year or on applying next year will be crafting a persuasive explanation of why your child needs AAP (see any FCPS website about the purpose of AAP, etc. and use that language) and showing your child's personality.

If you end up applying next year, you should try to encourage your child to make a good impression on his/her third grade teacher early in the school year since that will help with HOPE scores. I know some on this forum will dislike this suggestion, but this is just a consequence of relying on subjective measures.


The bolded is important. I think people minimize it assuming that the committee ignores anything from parents, but our AART always strongly encourages parents to show their child's full personality and fill out every possible thing from home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church


Just for comparison. We are Asian too. Similar Cogat, lower NNAT. iReady both are 99. Hope 10 always 1 often. In. Not sure which score weighs more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church


Just for comparison. We are Asian too. Similar Cogat, lower NNAT. iReady both are 99. Hope 10 always 1 often. In. Not sure which score weighs more.


Last time FCPS analyzed it, the teacher recommendation weighed the most. And FCPS adamantly says there's no one test score that matters, but rather the whole student profile.

Did you fill out the parent questionnaire? Did you write a persuasive case for why your child needed AAP in the parent referral? All that matters too.
Anonymous
NNAT: 120
COGAT: 122
iReady Math: 94%
iReady Reading: 90%
Accepted/Rejected: In (Langley pyramid).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church


Just for comparison. We are Asian too. Similar Cogat, lower NNAT. iReady both are 99. Hope 10 always 1 often. In. Not sure which score weighs more.


Last time FCPS analyzed it, the teacher recommendation weighed the most. And FCPS adamantly says there's no one test score that matters, but rather the whole student profile.

Did you fill out the parent questionnaire? Did you write a persuasive case for why your child needed AAP in the parent referral? All that matters too.


I did fill out the parent questionnaire. Took me a while to find a story to demonstrate. Had to consult with my neighbors 😅 I enjoyed reading her teacher’s comments on her school work samples which are surprisingly detailed. My DD is a bit quiet and reserved. I felt very relieved that her teachers see her potentials. Highly recommended to request the packet.
Anonymous

It easy to understand when you are not asian

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s harder for us.

Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church




90% in both reading and math is borderline, no need to blame race consideration.

Good luck on appeal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So iready math and reading now looked at for admittance? Just the spring scores from 2nd grade if applying for 3rd? Or do all years prior get averaged? Wondering if child had 99 but then had bad test day right before apply if take higher, prior scores into consideration?


I should have rephrased above b/c what I am really asking is if think makes any difference to point out prior iready that were higher scores or if time better spent elsewhere on appeal?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:CoGat:145
NNAT:157
iReady Math: 90
iReady Reading: 90
HOPE score: don't know
Accepted/Rejected: out
Race: Asian
Pyramid: Falls Church


I think to take a woodcock Johnson achievement test or iowa test of basic skills might help to explain iready is not reflecting true achievement
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So iready math and reading now looked at for admittance? Just the spring scores from 2nd grade if applying for 3rd? Or do all years prior get averaged? Wondering if child had 99 but then had bad test day right before apply if take higher, prior scores into consideration?


I should have rephrased above b/c what I am really asking is if think makes any difference to point out prior iready that were higher scores or if time better spent elsewhere on appeal?


First, on the application package only iready score from Fall 2023 (six months ago) was included.

Second, no matter what the iready score is, you should always appeal, at least you did all you could do.

Thirdly, for a child with iready under 90%, the odd is against him/her. NNAT/COGAT/WISC-V are all IQ tests, it doesn't explain why your kid is not testing well for stuff learnt in school. You need to look at HOPE rating, your child's strength/weakness, and come up with individualized explanation to the appeal board. There are five work samples to be included, maybe emphasis on her worse-showing iready subjects.
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