Quince Orchard Public Library = Daytime Student Lounge?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I might have been there around the same time as you. When I was in HS I used to hang out at the HS library—the fact there’s a public library across the street would have been bliss. The students are very well behaved and I don’t have a problem with them at all—they are polite and on many occasions hold the door open for me and my child. Would have loved them as my HS cohort.

There were two kids lying on the ground in the stacks, and the rest were loud, like it was lunchtime cafeteria time. There was absolutely no studying going on, so I don't agree with your assessment of them being well-behaved or there for any other purpose than it serving as a lounge. I suppose toking on a THC vape is not problematic either?

I love the kids at QOHS—all my experiences with them are positive.

As with any other place, if you had any issues, you should have complained to the employees.

I did complain, and they said they couldn't do anything. The fact you dismiss all I've said and suggest "all" your experiences have been positive, reeks of some sort of shilling.

You just need to call the non emergency police . MCPS is putting out videos about truancy and attendance, but they don’t want to do anything well, then let the Police handle it. I believe you when you say the kids are smoking marijuana. Personally, I don’t care if the kids are at the library hanging out but the second I can start seeing them vaping inside is when I have a problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I might have been there around the same time as you. When I was in HS I used to hang out at the HS library—the fact there’s a public library across the street would have been bliss. The students are very well behaved and I don’t have a problem with them at all—they are polite and on many occasions hold the door open for me and my child. Would have loved them as my HS cohort.

There were two kids lying on the ground in the stacks, and the rest were loud, like it was lunchtime cafeteria time. There was absolutely no studying going on, so I don't agree with your assessment of them being well-behaved or there for any other purpose than it serving as a lounge. I suppose toking on a THC vape is not problematic either?

I love the kids at QOHS—all my experiences with them are positive.

As with any other place, if you had any issues, you should have complained to the employees.

I did complain, and they said they couldn't do anything. The fact you dismiss all I've said and suggest "all" your experiences have been positive, reeks of some sort of shilling.

Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I might have been there around the same time as you. When I was in HS I used to hang out at the HS library—the fact there’s a public library across the street would have been bliss. The students are very well behaved and I don’t have a problem with them at all—they are polite and on many occasions hold the door open for me and my child. Would have loved them as my HS cohort.

There were two kids lying on the ground in the stacks, and the rest were loud, like it was lunchtime cafeteria time. There was absolutely no studying going on, so I don't agree with your assessment of them being well-behaved or there for any other purpose than it serving as a lounge. I suppose toking on a THC vape is not problematic either?

I love the kids at QOHS—all my experiences with them are positive.

As with any other place, if you had any issues, you should have complained to the employees.

I did complain, and they said they couldn't do anything. The fact you dismiss all I've said and suggest "all" your experiences have been positive, reeks of some sort of shilling.

You just need to call the non emergency police . MCPS is putting out videos about truancy and attendance, but they don’t want to do anything well, then let the Police handle it. I believe you when you say the kids are smoking marijuana. Personally, I don’t care if the kids are at the library hanging out but the second I can start seeing them vaping inside is when I have a problem.

If you think that MCPD, which is short-staffed, is going to prioritize and actually send officers out for a group of kids who MIGHT be vaping and smell like weed, and PROBABLY are minorities and risk being called racist for interacting with them, then you're seriously naive and out of the loop on what's going on politically in this county.

In short: MCPD doesn't have the staff to respond to something this minor and even if they did, would rather do nothing than intervene because they'll get labeled racist for going after black or brown kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the second time I've noticed an influx of students from QOHS using QO Public Library as a Lounge during the school day. After around 1PM through 2:15, there were about 30+ kids just sitting around, talking loudly -- marijuana vape could be smelled clearly -- with apparent impunity. The librarians seem powerless to stop it. A call to the HS itself resulted in someone at the front desk stating that they can't control all the kids, essentially noting there is nothing they can do. What the hell is going on? Why is everyone washing their hands of an obvious and serious problem?

Because in this county, we have clearly given up on our youth. Nobody wants to hold these high schoolers accountable, and they know that they can do what they want, without issue.

The librarians are powerless to stop it. What can they do? They're not equipped to handle confrontations and it's not like they can physically remove these kids from the premises. School admin is also powerless. No meaningful punishment is allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I might have been there around the same time as you. When I was in HS I used to hang out at the HS library—the fact there’s a public library across the street would have been bliss. The students are very well behaved and I don’t have a problem with them at all—they are polite and on many occasions hold the door open for me and my child. Would have loved them as my HS cohort.

There were two kids lying on the ground in the stacks, and the rest were loud, like it was lunchtime cafeteria time. There was absolutely no studying going on, so I don't agree with your assessment of them being well-behaved or there for any other purpose than it serving as a lounge. I suppose toking on a THC vape is not problematic either?

I love the kids at QOHS—all my experiences with them are positive.

As with any other place, if you had any issues, you should have complained to the employees.

I did complain, and they said they couldn't do anything. The fact you dismiss all I've said and suggest "all" your experiences have been positive, reeks of some sort of shilling.

You just need to call the non emergency police . MCPS is putting out videos about truancy and attendance, but they don’t want to do anything well, then let the Police handle it. I believe you when you say the kids are smoking marijuana. Personally, I don’t care if the kids are at the library hanging out but the second I can start seeing them vaping inside is when I have a problem.

If you think that MCPD, which is short-staffed, is going to prioritize and actually send officers out for a group of kids who MIGHT be vaping and smell like weed, and PROBABLY are minorities and risk being called racist for interacting with them, then you're seriously naive and out of the loop on what's going on politically in this county.

In short: MCPD doesn't have the staff to respond to something this minor and even if they did, would rather do nothing than intervene because they'll get labeled racist for going after black or brown kids.

MCPD does not ignore calls. If there is an available officer they will send someone out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I might have been there around the same time as you. When I was in HS I used to hang out at the HS library—the fact there’s a public library across the street would have been bliss. The students are very well behaved and I don’t have a problem with them at all—they are polite and on many occasions hold the door open for me and my child. Would have loved them as my HS cohort.

There were two kids lying on the ground in the stacks, and the rest were loud, like it was lunchtime cafeteria time. There was absolutely no studying going on, so I don't agree with your assessment of them being well-behaved or there for any other purpose than it serving as a lounge. I suppose toking on a THC vape is not problematic either?

I love the kids at QOHS—all my experiences with them are positive.

As with any other place, if you had any issues, you should have complained to the employees.

I did complain, and they said they couldn't do anything. The fact you dismiss all I've said and suggest "all" your experiences have been positive, reeks of some sort of shilling.

You just need to call the non emergency police . MCPS is putting out videos about truancy and attendance, but they don’t want to do anything well, then let the Police handle it. I believe you when you say the kids are smoking marijuana. Personally, I don’t care if the kids are at the library hanging out but the second I can start seeing them vaping inside is when I have a problem.

If you think that MCPD, which is short-staffed, is going to prioritize and actually send officers out for a group of kids who MIGHT be vaping and smell like weed, and PROBABLY are minorities and risk being called racist for interacting with them, then you're seriously naive and out of the loop on what's going on politically in this county.

In short: MCPD doesn't have the staff to respond to something this minor and even if they did, would rather do nothing than intervene because they'll get labeled racist for going after black or brown kids.

MCPD does not ignore calls. If there is an available officer they will send someone out.

I didn't say they would ignore the call. Depending on how busy they are, they might not have officers available to send. And even if they do, they might just talk to the librarians but not confront the kids.

I know this because it happens with kids who are loitering and doing similar things in neighborhoods near high schools. MCPD has a directive NOT to arrest kids. They won't do it for the political/race optics I just said. They also don't enforce truancy laws.

[Anonymous]

Many kids have half days and at lunch many do go out, especially to the Starbucks, I've never had an issue with them. They're kids. I'm sure one or so did smell like weed, doesn't mean they were all doing it or actually vaping in the library. Admin can't do anything and neither can librarians, you just have to hope parents are on top of their own students' attendance and habits. It's not the county's job to raise them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many kids have half days and at lunch many do go out, especially to the Starbucks, I've never had an issue with them. They're kids. I'm sure one or so did smell like weed, doesn't mean they were all doing it or actually vaping in the library. Admin can't do anything and neither can librarians, you just have to hope parents are on top of their own students' attendance and habits. It's not the county's job to raise them.

Quince Orchard has a closed lunch. They're not supposed to be off campus for lunch.

[Anonymous]

I go to Quince Orchard regularly, both during the day and after school hours. Yes, there are always a lot of students there, especially after school but I've never found any of them to be engaging in problematic behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the second time I've noticed an influx of students from QOHS using QO Public Library as a Lounge during the school day. After around 1PM through 2:15, there were about 30+ kids just sitting around, talking loudly -- marijuana vape could be smelled clearly -- with apparent impunity. The librarians seem powerless to stop it. A call to the HS itself resulted in someone at the front desk stating that they can't control all the kids, essentially noting there is nothing they can do. What the hell is going on? Why is everyone washing their hands of an obvious and serious problem?

Because in this county, we have clearly given up on our youth. Nobody wants to hold these high schoolers accountable, and they know that they can do what they want, without issue.

The librarians are powerless to stop it. What can they do? They're not equipped to handle confrontations and it's not like they can physically remove these kids from the premises. School admin is also powerless. No meaningful punishment is allowed.

Need to build a community center next to the library.

Let the quiet people stay in the library, and the loud rowdy people hang out in the playroom in the community center.

Hire counselors to provide positive interactions and mentorship to aimless teens.

[Anonymous]

This has happened before in other areas of the county. I’m not going to say where as to not out the situation but schools do not ways know where your kids are and they do not care. I’ve seen high school kids terrorize shopping centers and steal and no one does anything. They leave drug paraphernalia and even sell drugs out in these areas they find to hang out in where no one can tell them to leave. It will get worse as the weather gets warmer. I have no advice; just recognize no one in “power” will do anything. Maybe call the local city council rep but they will be back again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This has happened before in other areas of the county. I’m not going to say where as to not out the situation but schools do not ways know where your kids are and they do not care. I’ve seen high school kids terrorize shopping centers and steal and no one does anything. They leave drug paraphernalia and even sell drugs out in these areas they find to hang out in where no one can tell them to leave. It will get worse as the weather gets warmer. I have no advice; just recognize no one in “power” will do anything. Maybe call the local city council rep but they will be back again.

OMG! MCPS is Ganglandia!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has happened before in other areas of the county. I’m not going to say where as to not out the situation but schools do not ways know where your kids are and they do not care. I’ve seen high school kids terrorize shopping centers and steal and no one does anything. They leave drug paraphernalia and even sell drugs out in these areas they find to hang out in where no one can tell them to leave. It will get worse as the weather gets warmer. I have no advice; just recognize no one in “power” will do anything. Maybe call the local city council rep but they will be back again.

OMG! MCPS is Ganglandia!

Wait until you have to deal with it in your neighborhood. You are lucky if you don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I might have been there around the same time as you. When I was in HS I used to hang out at the HS library—the fact there’s a public library across the street would have been bliss. The students are very well behaved and I don’t have a problem with them at all—they are polite and on many occasions hold the door open for me and my child. Would have loved them as my HS cohort.

There were two kids lying on the ground in the stacks, and the rest were loud, like it was lunchtime cafeteria time. There was absolutely no studying going on, so I don't agree with your assessment of them being well-behaved or there for any other purpose than it serving as a lounge. I suppose toking on a THC vape is not problematic either?

I love the kids at QOHS—all my experiences with them are positive.

As with any other place, if you had any issues, you should have complained to the employees.

I did complain, and they said they couldn't do anything. The fact you dismiss all I've said and suggest "all" your experiences have been positive, reeks of some sort of shilling.

You just need to call the non emergency police . MCPS is putting out videos about truancy and attendance, but they don’t want to do anything well, then let the Police handle it. I believe you when you say the kids are smoking marijuana. Personally, I don’t care if the kids are at the library hanging out but the second I can start seeing them vaping inside is when I have a problem.

If you think that MCPD, which is short-staffed, is going to prioritize and actually send officers out for a group of kids who MIGHT be vaping and smell like weed, and PROBABLY are minorities and risk being called racist for interacting with them, then you're seriously naive and out of the loop on what's going on politically in this county.

In short: MCPD doesn't have the staff to respond to something this minor and even if they did, would rather do nothing than intervene because they'll get labeled racist for going after black or brown kids.

"MIGHT be vaping and smell like weed, and PROBABLY are minorities". Really? Students from QO vaping and smelling like weed in a library and you think they are probably minorities? Tell me you don't live near the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many kids have half days and at lunch many do go out, especially to the Starbucks, I've never had an issue with them. They're kids. I'm sure one or so did smell like weed, doesn't mean they were all doing it or actually vaping in the library. Admin can't do anything and neither can librarians, you just have to hope parents are on top of their own students' attendance and habits. It's not the county's job to raise them.

Quince Orchard has a closed lunch. They're not supposed to be off campus for lunch.

It’s a large school. Impossible to enforce this policy.