Privy to colleague’s impending firing - it sucks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just help her find something else once she's out. Not hearing from any of my colleagues hurt wayyy more than losing the job itself.

+1. This. Invite her to lunch and give her some idea of what went wrong (both within and outside of her control). Be a mentor if she wants it and you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just help her find something else once she's out. Not hearing from any of my colleagues hurt wayyy more than losing the job itself.

Neither hurts.

Neither (1) losing a job, and/or (2) losing a job and being frozen out by former colleagues hurts? You've been through this and just brushed it off, then?

Yes, it’s a job and it doesn’t even stop the long term trajectory of your career. It’s also a big world, find people you actually enjoy to work for?

[Anonymous]

Been there and I agree, it's not fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would the leaker tell you of this intended firing? Are they typically a gossiper?

I’m engaged with senior leadership on a variety of discussions. This was discussed in an official context, not as water cooler fodder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would the leaker tell you of this intended firing? Are they typically a gossiper?

I’m engaged with senior leadership on a variety of discussions. This was discussed in an official context, not as water cooler fodder.

Why is she being fired? How can she not even know? Have you dropped any clues?

[Anonymous]

That does suck. How long have they been there? Can they recover?

[Anonymous]

A good friend would give them a heads up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A good friend would give them a heads up

Not unless OP wants to get fired too.

OP — She knows. She may seem oblivious but deep down she knows. Just be there after it’s done. The obliviousness is part of the problem I’m sure.

[Anonymous]

I don’t get why you would do this without even giving someone a warning or chance to improve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would do this without even giving someone a warning or chance to improve.

They probably have had many chances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t get why you would do this without even giving someone a warning or chance to improve.

By the time management has decided to fire someone and let OP know about it, it’s too late for improvement. Their minds are made up and there is no going back.

[Anonymous]

Well why are they firing her?

Must not be government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well why are they firing her?

Must not be government.

Cultural fit issues;
Skill no longer fit for Business’ new direction: ie planned to do in house development but decided to outsource;
Found cheaper resources, etc…
It’s not a problem, making a random business decision personal is where the issue is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is she on a PIP?

No, but they’ve been increasingly hostile to her in recent weeks/months (she is a junior person working with senior leaders).

So, these grown ups are passive-aggressively treating a jr. level person and she's supposed to 'get it'. GTHOH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is she on a PIP?

No, but they’ve been increasingly hostile to her in recent weeks/months (she is a junior person working with senior leaders).

So, these grown ups are passive-aggressively treating a jr. level person and she's supposed to 'get it'. GTHOH

They are all grown ups. It's a tough out there, this is how jr level people develop a thicker skin and learn from mistakes.