| Very unbro-y. |
| It’s giving me quirky vibes not bro vibes |
| OMG no. It’s whatever the opposite of Bro-y is. The Greek number is deceptive. Greek scene is very low key. |
Another wondering this. Based on other replies does it mean lots of fraternity guys? |
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"Bro-y" means toxic masculinity, which can be a culture overly based on sports, fraternities, douchey behavior, etc.
W&M definitely did not have a bro-y vibe during our campus visit and overnight stay, more like the exact opposite, a quirky, diverse place. That said, I could also sense that the "bro-y" minority, while smaller than most places, could be more intense in their views as a result. BTW, UVA did not seem that bro-y either during our visits. Wake Forest did seem like a bro-y place; it seemed like what Duke was in the 80s when I went to college. Duke, FWIW, seems less bro-y now. |
TBH—it sounds incel-ish And keep in mind I love W&M but you have to consider the pool first. Then from that pool, the 30% who become Greek are guys who probably would not have been sought after to pledge at schools like VT where the really bro frats are. So at W&M they are trying their best to emulate that frat life but in reality they are just nerdy binge drinkers. The high status W&M guys keep their heads down and stay away from frats and the frat guys are correct that the W&M sorority women are not “ho-y” enough to rate on the ho scale. They just aren’t. |
Open up high school yearbook to the varsity baseball or varsity lacrosse team page. Textbook definition of bro-y. |
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I feel like the answers to this question are kind of all over the map. 33% of men are in frats but they’re either not the same as frat guys elsewhere, acc to one PP, or worse, acc to another, bc they wouldn’t be frat guys at a place like VT.
Thank you to the Pp who compared it to Duke and Wake Forest. |
| How does WM compare to Davidson on this question? |
I had to laugh. Guess it depends on the HS. Our HS barely has a lacrosse team and the baseball team is more like The Bad News Bears. They’ve been Mercy Ruled in their first two games. Heavy sigh. But, I think you’re right on the description. FWIW, the boys I know at WM are the anti-thesis of bros. Figures, they were band kids. Sample size of two, YMMV. LOL. |
| Can we not stereotype athletic guys as toxic masculinity? There are lots of different ways to be a man. Some are athletic and love team sports, some are into theatre, some are into gaming, some are into band, etc. None are TOXIC per se. I have a boy that will 100% be what people call “frat bro” in college. He is extroverted, loves sports, etc. Guess what? He has sisters and is very sensitive and respectful of women. He also is very academic. I just don’t get the blanket disdain for boys that fall into a certain boy stereotype. It is mean, OP. |
I do think we need more nuanced ways to discuss this. I went to WM and had great guy friends who liked and respected women, and who were also in athletics and in fraternities. Just normal, friendly guys who didn’t fall into any one category. I think of Bro-y and toxic are two different things. Toxic guys are the guys you wouldn’t want a girl to get drunk around or who you wouldn’t trust to walk you home without incident. Or the guys who are total misogynists and think that girls aren’t worthy of respect or being treated as equals, socially, professionally, and academically. I think of Bro-y as being different. Kind of loud, partying, obnoxious, would tell and laugh at sexist jokes, but wouldn’t be an actual threat. I’m still really good friends with many of the guys I went to school with. They’ve grown up to be very nice men, just as they were good guys back in college. |
This describes my son and his friends. He will play a sport at WM and is social, friendly--but not into bro activities---will hang out and play spike ball, football with friends--but not the drinking/partying stuff. Very intellectual too. He was always more grown up than me--lol. |
PP here. Davidson seemed more like W&M, but not as quirky. |
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What does this even mean?
Yes, Caucasian males attend W&M. |