Check yourself on criminal justice reform

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.

Respectfully, being a corrections officer doesn't give you unique insight into this issue. You only see the results when the system works. You don't see what was filtered out.

DP
A CO is far more familiar with criminals than you are. Their opinion is more credible than yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For example, 12 year olds aren't doing armed carjackings because their mom is too poor to feed them.

They are carjacking to go to doctor's appointments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.

We must be looking at this differently because there has been a litany of new legislation in the last decade. Far too many to list here. Care to elaborate in your perspective?


And addressing a different PP: I know you are agreeing with my overall point. For the correlation between poverty and criminal behavior, do know that it IS absolutely real. The amount of perseverance and drive it takes to emerge from these places as an educated, thoughtful, productive member of society is hard to explain to those that haven’t lived it.

But the deep systemic inequities are not solved by allowing total chaos and lawlessness. And to the person who said what we need high standards in our communities, I could not agree more.

[Anonymous]

Sure, let’s pretend this is a federal issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure, let’s pretend this is a federal issue.

It is, partially.

Look no further than the US Attorney for DC, Matthew Graves.
(You can read more about him here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/315/1171899.page#26543360
And here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1176804.page)

US Attorneys have a lot of latitude in prosecuting federal cases in their jurisdictions.

Yes.... DA's and local prosecutors are at fault as well. As are some of the insane laws passed in some states/cities.

Listen to what this Sheriff has to say:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here. There IS a marked difference in the daily way of life in New York. I was all for policing and cj reform for years, but this is a failed experiment. And not because I no longer believe there are systemic injustices that shape the lives of criminal offenders. This is completely true. I know because I lived in that world. But simply failing to convict these crimes is NOT the answer. The answer involves significant social and education reform. Which isn’t happening. And even if done well, it will take some time to feel the effects.

In the meantime, punks are now running rampant more than ever, fearless of retribution (because there often is none) and my city is a cesspool. When I was growing up, at least there was good fear of police to curb the bad apples to *some* degree. Now that seems to be almost nil.

So a) stop your armchair activism from your cushy lives. You speak of nothing you know and you are actually doing more harm than good. B) In major cities across the country, only now that this level of dysfunction and inhumanity is seeping into the more affluent areas, is there at least some pushback. Ironic and part of the initial systemic inequities, but we will take what we can get!

We need to get our cities and country in order. Hard on crime AND education and social reform from early years onwards. The latter needs significant investment and the right leaders at the helm. We have none of that.

First order of action though: crack down on this bullshit. Clean up the streets. I’m sick and tired of this. Act up, you get locked up.

You are a MAGA supremacist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sure, let’s pretend this is a federal issue.

It is, partially.

Look no further than the US Attorney for DC, Matthew Graves.
(You can read more about him here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/315/1171899.page#26543360
And here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1176804.page)

US Attorneys have a lot of latitude in prosecuting federal cases in their jurisdictions.

Yes.... DA's and local prosecutors are at fault as well. As are some of the insane laws passed in some states/cities.

Listen to what this Sheriff has to say:

OMG

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here. There IS a marked difference in the daily way of life in New York. I was all for policing and cj reform for years, but this is a failed experiment. And not because I no longer believe there are systemic injustices that shape the lives of criminal offenders. This is completely true. I know because I lived in that world. But simply failing to convict these crimes is NOT the answer. The answer involves significant social and education reform. Which isn’t happening. And even if done well, it will take some time to feel the effects.

In the meantime, punks are now running rampant more than ever, fearless of retribution (because there often is none) and my city is a cesspool. When I was growing up, at least there was good fear of police to curb the bad apples to *some* degree. Now that seems to be almost nil.

So a) stop your armchair activism from your cushy lives. You speak of nothing you know and you are actually doing more harm than good. B) In major cities across the country, only now that this level of dysfunction and inhumanity is seeping into the more affluent areas, is there at least some pushback. Ironic and part of the initial systemic inequities, but we will take what we can get!

We need to get our cities and country in order. Hard on crime AND education and social reform from early years onwards. The latter needs significant investment and the right leaders at the helm. We have none of that.

First order of action though: crack down on this bullshit. Clean up the streets. I’m sick and tired of this. Act up, you get locked up.

You are a MAGA supremacist.

Clever rebuttal! Top of your class, are you?

And so way off, but I suppose an educated and articulate person from the hood calling for high expectations for our children and safety for our grandmothers, defies your perception of who we should be. Should I be smoking a blunt, drinking a 40 and saying “yo fck da police?” Would that be more comfortable for you??

These are issues that have primarily concerned neighborhoods that the DCUM crowd has never lived in and impacts people that you would never associate with. Oh but you read Mother Jones and make donations to “progressive” causes from a safe distance so you’re cool and woke. You and your condescending white savior ignorance can sit down now. You’re as racist as Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.

We must be looking at this differently because there has been a litany of new legislation in the last decade. Far too many to list here. Care to elaborate in your perspective?


And addressing a different PP: I know you are agreeing with my overall point. For the correlation between poverty and criminal behavior, do know that it IS absolutely real. The amount of perseverance and drive it takes to emerge from these places as an educated, thoughtful, productive member of society is hard to explain to those that haven’t lived it.

But the deep systemic inequities are not solved by allowing total chaos and lawlessness. And to the person who said what we need high standards in our communities, I could not agree more.

You get it. I also grew up in a rough situation and I can relate to everything you are saying. Keep speaking truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.

We must be looking at this differently because there has been a litany of new legislation in the last decade. Far too many to list here. Care to elaborate in your perspective?


And addressing a different PP: I know you are agreeing with my overall point. For the correlation between poverty and criminal behavior, do know that it IS absolutely real. The amount of perseverance and drive it takes to emerge from these places as an educated, thoughtful, productive member of society is hard to explain to those that haven’t lived it.

But the deep systemic inequities are not solved by allowing total chaos and lawlessness. And to the person who said what we need high standards in our communities, I could not agree more.

I also grew up dirt poor but my experience is that correlation is not necessarily causation. Most poor people don't just automatically go around doing carjackings and armed robberies. That's closer to a single-digit percentage of the poor, and has a lot more to do with dysfunction in the home and immediate environment than it is mere poverty.