Check yourself on criminal justice reform

Anonymous
New Yorker here. There IS a marked difference in the daily way of life in New York. I was all for policing and cj reform for years, but this is a failed experiment. And not because I no longer believe there are systemic injustices that shape the lives of criminal offenders. This is completely true. I know because I lived in that world. But simply failing to convict these crimes is NOT the answer. The answer involves significant social and education reform. Which isn’t happening. And even if done well, it will take some time to feel the effects.

In the meantime, punks are now running rampant more than ever, fearless of retribution (because there often is none) and my city is a cesspool. When I was growing up, at least there was good fear of police to curb the bad apples to *some* degree. Now that seems to be almost nil.

So a) stop your armchair activism from your cushy lives. You speak of nothing you know and you are actually doing more harm than good. B) In major cities across the country, only now that this level of dysfunction and inhumanity is seeping into the more affluent areas, is there at least some pushback. Ironic and part of the initial systemic inequities, but we will take what we can get!

We need to get our cities and country in order. Hard on crime AND education and social reform from early years onwards. The latter needs significant investment and the right leaders at the helm. We have none of that.

First order of action though: crack down on this bullshit. Clean up the streets. I’m sick and tired of this. Act up, you get locked up.
Anonymous
If I may: ma’am, this is a Wendy’s.

I think it’s so weird when people come into an anonymous board and react to an argument no one has made.
Anonymous
With all due respect, sir, I am responding to several comments I’ve seen here and this is an important perspective many of you really need to hear. I didn’t want it to be buried in a thread. Mod can take it down if it’s not appropriate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here. There IS a marked difference in the daily way of life in New York. I was all for policing and cj reform for years, but this is a failed experiment. And not because I no longer believe there are systemic injustices that shape the lives of criminal offenders. This is completely true. I know because I lived in that world. But simply failing to convict these crimes is NOT the answer. The answer involves significant social and education reform. Which isn’t happening. And even if done well, it will take some time to feel the effects.

In the meantime, punks are now running rampant more than ever, fearless of retribution (because there often is none) and my city is a cesspool. When I was growing up, at least there was good fear of police to curb the bad apples to *some* degree. Now that seems to be almost nil.

So a) stop your armchair activism from your cushy lives. You speak of nothing you know and you are actually doing more harm than good. B) In major cities across the country, only now that this level of dysfunction and inhumanity is seeping into the more affluent areas, is there at least some pushback. Ironic and part of the initial systemic inequities, but we will take what we can get!

We need to get our cities and country in order. Hard on crime AND education and social reform from early years onwards. The latter needs significant investment and the right leaders at the helm. We have none of that.

First order of action though: crack down on this bullshit. Clean up the streets. I’m sick and tired of this. Act up, you get locked up.


This is not what social justice reform is, honey. Sorry you are learning this too late. We need to keep american cities crime ridden, in poverty and government dependent as much as possible. We need to indocrenate, not educate american children starting early on.
Anonymous
Look at what El Salvador has done in a very short time. They locked up the criminals. Crime practically disappeared and the formerly terrorized population is now safe. It just takes determination and leadership.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look at what El Salvador has done in a very short time. They locked up the criminals. Crime practically disappeared and the formerly terrorized population is now safe. It just takes determination and leadership.


We don't have either.
Anonymous
As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have NOT been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.


There have not been…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.


The "criminal justice reforms" that OP is referencing are the progressive policies that have been implemented in cities around the country that are called "criminal justice reform."
In reality, as OP states, the only reform these provide is giving criminals and lawbreakers the right and incentive to break laws, hurt innocent people, and steal the property of others. These "reforms" give more rights to the criminals and in so doing, victimizes the victims over and over.
If you live in DC, you are well aware of all of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here. There IS a marked difference in the daily way of life in New York. I was all for policing and cj reform for years, but this is a failed experiment. And not because I no longer believe there are systemic injustices that shape the lives of criminal offenders. This is completely true. I know because I lived in that world. But simply failing to convict these crimes is NOT the answer. The answer involves significant social and education reform. Which isn’t happening. And even if done well, it will take some time to feel the effects.

In the meantime, punks are now running rampant more than ever, fearless of retribution (because there often is none) and my city is a cesspool. When I was growing up, at least there was good fear of police to curb the bad apples to *some* degree. Now that seems to be almost nil.

So a) stop your armchair activism from your cushy lives. You speak of nothing you know and you are actually doing more harm than good. B) In major cities across the country, only now that this level of dysfunction and inhumanity is seeping into the more affluent areas, is there at least some pushback. Ironic and part of the initial systemic inequities, but we will take what we can get!

We need to get our cities and country in order. Hard on crime AND education and social reform from early years onwards. The latter needs significant investment and the right leaders at the helm. We have none of that.

First order of action though: crack down on this bullshit. Clean up the streets. I’m sick and tired of this. Act up, you get locked up.


This is not what social justice reform is, honey. Sorry you are learning this too late. We need to keep american cities crime ridden, in poverty and government dependent as much as possible. We need to indocrenate, not educate american children starting early on.


How dumb
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.


The "criminal justice reforms" that OP is referencing are the progressive policies that have been implemented in cities around the country that are called "criminal justice reform."
In reality, as OP states, the only reform these provide is giving criminals and lawbreakers the right and incentive to break laws, hurt innocent people, and steal the property of others. These "reforms" give more rights to the criminals and in so doing, victimizes the victims over and over.
If you live in DC, you are well aware of all of this.


There has been a lot of progressive activism around "oh go easy on criminals because they are poor and oppressed and can't help themselves" which is largely based on BS and built upon the soft bigotry of low expectations. I point to Charles Allen here in DC and some of the prosecutors around the US as examples of that.
Anonymous
For example, 12 year olds aren't doing armed carjackings because their mom is too poor to feed them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a corrections officer, there have been any criminal justice reforms. Unclear what you are talking about.


Respectfully, being a corrections officer doesn't give you unique insight into this issue. You only see the results when the system works. You don't see what was filtered out.
Anonymous
OP, you're wasting your breath. They don't care about the effects of the policies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here. There IS a marked difference in the daily way of life in New York. I was all for policing and cj reform for years, but this is a failed experiment. And not because I no longer believe there are systemic injustices that shape the lives of criminal offenders. This is completely true. I know because I lived in that world. But simply failing to convict these crimes is NOT the answer. The answer involves significant social and education reform. Which isn’t happening. And even if done well, it will take some time to feel the effects.

In the meantime, punks are now running rampant more than ever, fearless of retribution (because there often is none) and my city is a cesspool. When I was growing up, at least there was good fear of police to curb the bad apples to *some* degree. Now that seems to be almost nil.

So a) stop your armchair activism from your cushy lives. You speak of nothing you know and you are actually doing more harm than good. B) In major cities across the country, only now that this level of dysfunction and inhumanity is seeping into the more affluent areas, is there at least some pushback. Ironic and part of the initial systemic inequities, but we will take what we can get!

We need to get our cities and country in order. Hard on crime AND education and social reform from early years onwards. The latter needs significant investment and the right leaders at the helm. We have none of that.

First order of action though: crack down on this bullshit. Clean up the streets. I’m sick and tired of this. Act up, you get locked up.


This is not what social justice reform is, honey. Sorry you are learning this too late. We need to keep american cities crime ridden, in poverty and government dependent as much as possible. We need to indocrenate, not educate american children starting early on. [/


Better hope so, if dems want to stay in control of cities.
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