To Police Report or Not to Police Report?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The posters who suggest calling the police because of a 2nd grader misbehaving are insane, OP. Not sure why you're paying any attention to them.

NP. We have a second grade boy in my kid's class that consistently physically assaults other students. Slaps, shoves and kicks these kids.
The only thing that has happened is the kid gets sent to the office for a few minutes and then gets to come back and terrorize the class again. How long do we let a kid just keep on doing this?

Does the kid have a one on one aide who can take the student out of class? My DC had a kid in kindergarten like this. He spent the majority of his day doing work with his aide one-on-one because of it. It still wasn't great because he got a chance to engage in the physical assaults every day before he got yanked from the classroom, but at least he wasn't there after it happened.

[Anonymous]

What about pantsing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about pantsing?

Call the police!

[Anonymous]

Thank you for starting this thread, OP. I have always wondered about this. I would personally do this for something like choking or for repeated kicking/punching. Of course I would fear being labelled as hysterical but if I’ve learned one thing as a parent it’s that you have to fiercely advocate for your child.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The posters who suggest calling the police because of a 2nd grader misbehaving are insane, OP. Not sure why you're paying any attention to them.

Aside from getting the schools to take action, the police report also gives you the other family's information so you can sue for any physical or mental harm. Sometimes it's the only way to get a problem resolved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The posters who suggest calling the police because of a 2nd grader misbehaving are insane, OP. Not sure why you're paying any attention to them.

Threatening someone with a knife and choking them is "misbehaving"?

[Anonymous]

Personally, I would file a police report for my kids if I would file one if an adult had done that thing to me. I don’t think that it being done by a kid or to my kid makes something not an assault.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The posters who suggest calling the police because of a 2nd grader misbehaving are insane, OP. Not sure why you're paying any attention to them.

This. They are the same posters who suggest calling a lawyer for every little thing.

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Restorative justice doesn’t work. This is no longer about kids being kids, it is about thugs starting early.

Yes file a police report. Won’t be long before these kids are like the one who shot his teacher in Newport News.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that people suggest filing a police report because the schools are no longer moving quickly to address issues with kids with behavioral problems. Physical assault should be a threshold that leads to immediate consequences but it now seems that is not happening. And while most early ES kids are not likely to try and really harm a classmate, we know that some do and the very rare few are quite clinical in their decision to shoot or assault a classmate.

I believe most people are hoping that filing a police report would force the school to take stronger action although I am not certain that will be the case.

It's this. I am very much hoping that parents of my peers file every single physical infraction with tge police so that we can go back to worrying about learning in the classroom and not physical safety. Most of these incidents are committed by repeat offenders who should not be allowed to terrorize the rest of the class.

[Anonymous]

^^parents of my kids' peers

[Anonymous]

I work at a school and I absolutely recognize that behaviors are out of control, but calling the police here is crazy to me. You wouldn’t believe the amount of he said/she said and tattling that occurs every day. He pushed me, she cut in line, he kicked me, she grabbed my hair. The tattling never stops. Often the kid will waltz back to their classmate and sing-song “I told the teacher on you!!” Bringing police into situations with no witnesses and only 7-year-olds to tell the tale is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a school and I absolutely recognize that behaviors are out of control, but calling the police here is crazy to me. You wouldn’t believe the amount of he said/she said and tattling that occurs every day. He pushed me, she cut in line, he kicked me, she grabbed my hair. The tattling never stops. Often the kid will waltz back to their classmate and sing-song “I told the teacher on you!!” Bringing police into situations with no witnesses and only 7-year-olds to tell the tale is insane.

I taught 2nd grade for years. I don’t think the OP is lying, because those behaviors are occurring regularly… but I can also tell you that there are quite a few second graders who exaggerate to the nth degree. All of a sudden, a student simply cutting in line turns into they pushed me into a desk and now I can’t walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a school and I absolutely recognize that behaviors are out of control, but calling the police here is crazy to me. You wouldn’t believe the amount of he said/she said and tattling that occurs every day. He pushed me, she cut in line, he kicked me, she grabbed my hair. The tattling never stops. Often the kid will waltz back to their classmate and sing-song “I told the teacher on you!!” Bringing police into situations with no witnesses and only 7-year-olds to tell the tale is insane.

+1, and the counselors and social workers are stretched thin.

I do think an actual choking incident needs to be addressed more so than it probably is by many administrators. One reason I recently left teaching was I was trying to handle too many behavior issues on my own. There were the constant disagreements between ES students and relatively minor behavior issues (not listening, blurting out, wandering, backtalk) that wore me down. Counselors were helpful, but their workload was crazy and there was only so much time in a day. We were told we shouldn’t refer students to the office because in doing so we undermined our own authority as the teacher in the classroom. So, I usually held off and tried to deal with things the best I could. When I did actually have an incident of assault in the classroom and had to call for assistance, it ended up in a situation where I was under the spotlight. “Why didn’t you know about this sooner? You need to work on building better relationships so this doesn’t happen”, etc. I probably handled hundreds of disciplinary issues to the one time I asked for help and that one time resulted in a reprimand.