I hate Trump, but I get why a huge part of middle America loves him

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.


White, straight and male.

He's no logner allowed to be employe, despite skills, experience and talent. DEI in action.

Maybe he should mark being gay on his application to help.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.


White, straight and male.

He's no logner allowed to be employe, despite skills, experience and talent. DEI in action.

Maybe he should mark being gay on his application to help.


Also leftist and he’s beginning to get nervous. He thought, like before, he would coast into another job. I expected to have trouble finding work as I’ve been self-employed for a while and my skills are stale. He’s now thinking about government work because so many of those jobs require you to be a US citizen. Didn’t want to ever work for the government.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.


White, straight and male.

He's no logner allowed to be employe, despite skills, experience and talent. DEI in action.

Maybe he should mark being gay on his application to help.


Also leftist and he’s beginning to get nervous. He thought, like before, he would coast into another job. I expected to have trouble finding work as I’ve been self-employed for a while and my skills are stale. He’s now thinking about government work because so many of those jobs require you to be a US citizen. Didn’t want to ever work for the government.


If he's not a veteran, he's not getting a generic government job. He's going to need a specialized job with a hiring authority that negates veterans preference
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.


White, straight and male.

He's no logner allowed to be employe, despite skills, experience and talent. DEI in action.

Maybe he should mark being gay on his application to help.


Also leftist and he’s beginning to get nervous. He thought, like before, he would coast into another job. I expected to have trouble finding work as I’ve been self-employed for a while and my skills are stale. He’s now thinking about government work because so many of those jobs require you to be a US citizen. Didn’t want to ever work for the government.


If he's not a veteran, he's not getting a generic government job. He's going to need a specialized job with a hiring authority that negates veterans preference


He can meet that criteria
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.


White, straight and male.

He's no logner allowed to be employe, despite skills, experience and talent. DEI in action.

Maybe he should mark being gay on his application to help.


Don’t be ridiculous. There are jobs available but that doesn’t mean there is a perfect opening in every niche field. Two months is not a long time for a senior or mid-level professional to search for a technical specialty position.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump’s supporters are not competing with undocumented immigrants. His supporters are the people who employ undocumented immigrants.


This. I live in white flyover country. The immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. There are job openings everywhere with competitive pay and signing bonuses.


My husband has been laid off for two months and cannot find a job. He’s never had that problem before. He’s in the tech field and very talented but it seems the odds are stacked against him.


White, straight and male.

He's no logner allowed to be employe, despite skills, experience and talent. DEI in action.

Maybe he should mark being gay on his application to help.


DEI is blatantly illegal. It’s hiring with race as a factor. When Trump wins the government will sue these companies to teach a lesson that will be severe and should be. DEI is anti American.
Anonymous
A lot of the points identified above as evidence they Democratic policies have failed working class Americans can be chalked up to unintended consequence. In other words, the McKinsey guys made bad choices because the problem they solved created another problem. As an aside .. that is their reputation. They fix things and cause different problems that require them to be hired again. It’s why savvy companies shy away from McKinsey and the ilk. But I digress. Of all the democratic policies, the worst is the open border. It is inexplicable. I do not agree that this is the same as it was under prior administrations. The numbers are far larger and we have never used HHS to house migrants and we are doing so now (some say to ensure that DHS can report low numbers).
Biden’s policies did signal an open door and his reaction to the influx has reinforced that. Recently Border Patrol agents cut razor wire put up by Texas. Mayorkas explained that this was done to facilitate processing of migrants. In other words, the razor wire was getting in the migrants way…. Which is exactly why it was put up. So the federal government removed a tool that was put up by texas to stop migrants and the reason given is that we need to let the migrants in. Mayorkas is saying that we want an open border. I don’t understand why Biden and Mayorkas are doing this. It is overburdening schools and services and hospitals. It has me on the edge. I don’t know that will vote for Trump but I cannot vote for Biden. I may just sit this one out.
Anonymous
your husband isn't the only talented person in the world. Is not not possible that another candidate (white or POC) could actually have better skill, more experience or the right kind of experience for an organization?

Anonymous
The best thing about open borders is that Hispanics are breaking conservative. They are workers, Christian and traditional. They hate paying taxes on their hard work and expect to get rich in America they are not happy on low government handouts and definitely don’t want to pay taxes for them. They cannot stand woke nonsense. They don’t want more immigrants competing with them now they are here. Everything is breaking against the Marxists running our government. Trump is winning on every major issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:your husband isn't the only talented person in the world. Is not not possible that another candidate (white or POC) could actually have better skill, more experience or the right kind of experience for an organization?



Try to find a POC as talented as her husband that can’t get hired in a good position immediately. I’ll wait. It’s illegal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a typical educated and wealthy DC-area striver. Atheist, support women's right to choose, value the diversity of cultures in this world, etc. I wouldn't say no to a tax cut, lol. I'm going to be good whoever gets elected.

We gotta face facts, though. Most of America is not like DC. It's hugely white, under-educated, under-employed people, who have been truly screwed over by progressive policies.

They have to compete with millions upon millions of lower cost illegal migrants flooding across the borders. They have been penalized by the color of their skin when applying to college and jobs. Suicide, depression, opioids, wars they have to fight and die in...it has gotten quite bad.

Once upon a time, democrats valued this massive part of America. Do they still? Can they?




When you say "screwed over by progressive policis" do you not really mean that until the late 20th century, they had an outsized role in the political and economic success of the country based mostly on skin color, and with women and minority gaining economic power and freedom, their role is becoming more on par and they are upset about it?

Because otherwise, I don't see where "they" are being penalized. Maybe women and people of color had been penalized by their gender and/or skin color for the previous centuries?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:your husband isn't the only talented person in the world. Is not not possible that another candidate (white or POC) could actually have better skill, more experience or the right kind of experience for an organization?



Try to find a POC as talented as her husband that can’t get hired in a good position immediately. I’ll wait. It’s illegal.


Some enterprising lawyer needs to set up some hiring and interview stings in red states for class action lawsuits against multinational corporations with DEI departments.
Anonymous
Trump feeds into anger and hate that a lot of US feels. I am also educated minority. I own my own business and politically lean Dem socially.

I get why people are into Trump. Calling them names and implying they're idiots only makes it all worse - there's a cultural divide and Trump is smart enough to leverage it.

He's a horrible human and will go to hell. He's nuts and a nightmare in personality. But one thing is real - he's actually not dumb as rocks. His inability to control his emotions sinks him but just in terms of getting things done, he did not run a bad campaign that first go v Hillary. Actually it was really good.

Coining MAGA as a slogan is brilliant. I'll say his use of social media too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A lot of the points identified above as evidence they Democratic policies have failed working class Americans can be chalked up to unintended consequence. In other words, the McKinsey guys made bad choices because the problem they solved created another problem. As an aside .. that is their reputation. They fix things and cause different problems that require them to be hired again. It’s why savvy companies shy away from McKinsey and the ilk. But I digress. Of all the democratic policies, the worst is the open border. It is inexplicable. I do not agree that this is the same as it was under prior administrations. The numbers are far larger and we have never used HHS to house migrants and we are doing so now (some say to ensure that DHS can report low numbers).
Biden’s policies did signal an open door and his reaction to the influx has reinforced that. Recently Border Patrol agents cut razor wire put up by Texas. Mayorkas explained that this was done to facilitate processing of migrants. In other words, the razor wire was getting in the migrants way…. Which is exactly why it was put up. So the federal government removed a tool that was put up by texas to stop migrants and the reason given is that we need to let the migrants in. Mayorkas is saying that we want an open border. I don’t understand why Biden and Mayorkas are doing this. It is overburdening schools and services and hospitals. It has me on the edge. I don’t know that will vote for Trump but I cannot vote for Biden. I may just sit this one out.


ok and if Trump actually wins, maybe the border problem will let up some (MAYBE), but every other aspect of American culture and democracy will be ruined and not repairable. Is that worth it? Also, it's so funny that the President (republican or democrats) gets sole blame for immigration. Congress could have done something. Actually, that is the more appropriate body to act on immigration. President's have to work within their authority. In many cases, because Congress won't act, President's attempt action through administrative measures. Those are temporary and can be undone at anytime by a future president or the courts. As you can see, SCOTUS is about to take that away with the Chevron doctrine (thanks to Trump stacking the court). So where will this leave Biden and any other future president. sitting out an election could have consequences too.
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