Frost or Luther Jackson Middle School?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids had great experiences at LJ. But middle school is short so hard to say it matters much.

If you are staying look at HS. Woodson is huge, Oakton is medium sized and Falls Church is small. Falls Church is in midst of complete renovation - scheduled to be complete in 2026 - and will be gorgeous.

You are misinformed. Oakton has substantially more students than Woodson.

And Woodson and Oakton have both been renovated relatively recently. Renovated high schools in FCPS are functional but never gorgeous.

The renovated Oakton actually is attractive from a modern architecture point of view. They even put in those large-sized social steps for socializing and relaxing during down time. Not exactly functional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

No it is about the high population of kids that don't give a sh*t about school and make for a crappy environment. Having police at the school and threats of violence on a regular basis is not the environment I would choose for my kids.

And yes it is still about the vaping and administration that doesn't care. Kids not being able to use the bathroom during the school day does not equal a great school environment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

has more to do with socioeconomic status than ethnicity. It's no secret that lower SES leads to more issues at the school. At LJMS halls were regularly closed because there were so many fights. I can tell you my friend who have kids at other schools never had to worry about fights in the hallways.

Also impact things like PTA budget, parental involvement, sport and school events.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

No it is about the high population of kids that don't give a sh*t about school and make for a crappy environment. Having police at the school and threats of violence on a regular basis is not the environment I would choose for my kids.

And yes it is still about the vaping and administration that doesn't care. Kids not being able to use the bathroom during the school day does not equal a great school environment.

If your kid is the only one who cares then that means they have a really great chance at being captain and quarterback of the football team, captain of the debate and physics club and class valedictorian.

If he’s none of those things then he’d end of solidly in the middle of the pack at a “better” school which means he’d not get into any decent university and he’d end of working at McDonalds.

Right now he’s got the makings of a great college essay, how a middle of the road white guy overcame adversity, diversity and the stench of the poors yet still managed to rise like cream to the top!

UVA or bust baby!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

No it is about the high population of kids that don't give a sh*t about school and make for a crappy environment. Having police at the school and threats of violence on a regular basis is not the environment I would choose for my kids.

And yes it is still about the vaping and administration that doesn't care. Kids not being able to use the bathroom during the school day does not equal a great school environment.

If your kid is the only one who cares then that means they have a really great chance at being captain and quarterback of the football team, captain of the debate and physics club and class valedictorian.

If he’s none of those things then he’d end of solidly in the middle of the pack at a “better” school which means he’d not get into any decent university and he’d end of working at McDonalds.

Right now he’s got the makings of a great college essay, how a middle of the road white guy overcame adversity, diversity and the stench of the poors yet still managed to rise like cream to the top!

UVA or bust baby!

Good one, except my kids isn't white. But nice try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

No it is about the high population of kids that don't give a sh*t about school and make for a crappy environment. Having police at the school and threats of violence on a regular basis is not the environment I would choose for my kids.

And yes it is still about the vaping and administration that doesn't care. Kids not being able to use the bathroom during the school day does not equal a great school environment.

If your kid is the only one who cares then that means they have a really great chance at being captain and quarterback of the football team, captain of the debate and physics club and class valedictorian.

If he’s none of those things then he’d end of solidly in the middle of the pack at a “better” school which means he’d not get into any decent university and he’d end of working at McDonalds.

Right now he’s got the makings of a great college essay, how a middle of the road white guy overcame adversity, diversity and the stench of the poors yet still managed to rise like cream to the top!

UVA or bust baby!

And let me guess, you are probably the kind of parent who would lose their mind if they rezoned their kids school, not because you don't want your kids at a school like FCHS, but because you worry the bus ride would be too long. Angry at the experience my child is actually having while your kid goes to Woodson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

No it is about the high population of kids that don't give a sh*t about school and make for a crappy environment. Having police at the school and threats of violence on a regular basis is not the environment I would choose for my kids.

And yes it is still about the vaping and administration that doesn't care. Kids not being able to use the bathroom during the school day does not equal a great school environment.

If your kid is the only one who cares then that means they have a really great chance at being captain and quarterback of the football team, captain of the debate and physics club and class valedictorian.

If he’s none of those things then he’d end of solidly in the middle of the pack at a “better” school which means he’d not get into any decent university and he’d end of working at McDonalds.

Right now he’s got the makings of a great college essay, how a middle of the road white guy overcame adversity, diversity and the stench of the poors yet still managed to rise like cream to the top!

UVA or bust baby!

And let me guess, you are probably the kind of parent who would lose their mind if they rezoned their kids school, not because you don't want your kids at a school like FCHS, but because you worry the bus ride would be too long. Angry at the experience my child is actually having while your kid goes to Woodson.

DP. The post to which you replied was hard to take seriously, yet you seemed to take it literally.

Even so, can you elaborate on the experience your child "is actually having" - are you talking about at Jackson MS or Falls Church HS specifically? If so, would like to understand this more.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

Ah, so it was never really about the vaping at all, was it? Just about more “sketchy” = non-White kids. Classic DCUM.

No it is about the high population of kids that don't give a sh*t about school and make for a crappy environment. Having police at the school and threats of violence on a regular basis is not the environment I would choose for my kids.

And yes it is still about the vaping and administration that doesn't care. Kids not being able to use the bathroom during the school day does not equal a great school environment.

Yes - this exactly.

Bathrooms: the “don’t care” kids do care about vaping and having sex in the bathrooms and they take them over (denying anyone else the use of the bathroom as a, well, a toilet for one).

Those who don’t care are chronically truant, and when they do show up for school, they disrupt everyone else’s opportunity to learn.

They create a terrible school environment. And it only takes a few such students to ruin it for all the others.

But FCPS will continue, year after year, to ignore this problem because of their blind fanaticism with “inclusion.”

Your only option as a parent is to avoid those schools entirely.

[Anonymous]

Look at high school ranking in US news and report. Middle School is just two years. I believe Woodson HS is better than Falls Church HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely Frost.

+1

LJ is struggling.

My brother went there 10 years ago and it was a dumpster fire. Pregnant 7th graders, fights all the time, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frost!

Academically LJ and even Falls Church HS are fine, but I have found that socially it a is a lot harder for kids to make friends. There is also more BS at school like FCHS where my kid won't even use the restroom during the day because of all the kids in there vaping. If we were buying a house all over again I would absolutely choose a different pyramid.

You really think kids aren’t vaping at Woodson?

I’m sure they vape in bathrooms everywhere. But the kids at FCHS doing it are a lot more sketchy. Having a high population of kids who don’t care about school doesn’t make for a great environment.

The FCHS students have fewer bathrooms as they “forgot” to put them in the new wing they just constructed so everyone is crammed into a few likely making all the misdeeds more noticeable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it still the case that the LJ kids continue to 2 or 3 high schools? In the recent past it was sort of part of 2 or 3 pyramids.

The base boundaries of LJ feed entirely into Falls Church now (used to be Falls Church and Oakton) but there are AAP kids at LJ who go to Oakton and Madison.

The Oakton areas that used to go to LJ for Gen Ed now go to Thoreau, which is now a 3-way split feeder to Madison, Oakton, and Marshall.

I don't understand how AAP affects what h/s children go to when AAP is just for elementary and middle. Can someone explain? Thx.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it still the case that the LJ kids continue to 2 or 3 high schools? In the recent past it was sort of part of 2 or 3 pyramids.

The base boundaries of LJ feed entirely into Falls Church now (used to be Falls Church and Oakton) but there are AAP kids at LJ who go to Oakton and Madison.

The Oakton areas that used to go to LJ for Gen Ed now go to Thoreau, which is now a 3-way split feeder to Madison, Oakton, and Marshall.

I don't understand how AAP affects what h/s children go to when AAP is just for elementary and middle. Can someone explain? Thx.

AAP doesn’t change where a student is zoned for HS, but AAP centers in middle school may split to multiple high schools. You also see some kids trying to pupil place to a different high school than their assigned school so they can stay with kids they went to middle school with.