MD teenager shot Friday for refusing to give up his jacket

[Anonymous]

Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

[Anonymous]

I looked up the two brands last night after the report on the news. Totally not victim blaming, but wtf with these ridiculously expensive coats? I would laugh right in my kid’s face if they asked for something like that.

It sadly seems that these brands are putting a target on the backs of owners in certain communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

Do people/teens really need someone to explicitly tell them it's wrong to shoot someone for the their coat? I always thought basic ethics were innate, but maybe I'm wrong. Most people I know who didn't have the greatest childhood and didn't have adults around to guide them, still ended up pretty decent people.

I mean even wild animals are better - they generally are violent only when it comes to survival.

[Anonymous]

They don't see way out of poverty. They don't even see way out of crime as it's all around them. Why didn't their parents make it even if they work? Many still have family members and friends who borrow them poor.
When I was homeless, then poor then working, I had so many people getting money off of me. I almost didn't make it because of that. There only so many 10-12 hours shifts I can work for minimum wage and give money away. Luckily I got rid of all of them, the latest one asked for money a months ago, but now I have it.
I saw shooting and muggings, but wasn't directly involved besides one witness case.
Those kids do need to see that there's a way out, but we don't have enough people showing it to them. Their own neighborhood, peers and family are bigger influencers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

Do people/teens really need someone to explicitly tell them it's wrong to shoot someone for the their coat? I always thought basic ethics were innate, but maybe I'm wrong. Most people I know who didn't have the greatest childhood and didn't have adults around to guide them, still ended up pretty decent people.

I mean even wild animals are better - they generally are violent only when it comes to survival.

Yes, they do need someone to explicitly tell them because in many cases, their parents did not. My guess is you grew up in an environment where most of your friends had two parent households, jobs, education. When single parents, low incomes and lack of education is the norm rather than the exception, and when positive male role models are scarce, problems arise.

From my vantage point, the bigger issue is a sense of entitlement fueled by social media. It is toxic. No excuses for violence, just trying to share some food for thought.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't see way out of poverty. They don't even see way out of crime as it's all around them. Why didn't their parents make it even if they work? Many still have family members and friends who borrow them poor.
When I was homeless, then poor then working, I had so many people getting money off of me. I almost didn't make it because of that. There only so many 10-12 hours shifts I can work for minimum wage and give money away. Luckily I got rid of all of them, the latest one asked for money a months ago, but now I have it.
I saw shooting and muggings, but wasn't directly involved besides one witness case.
Those kids do need to see that there's a way out, but we don't have enough people showing it to them. Their own neighborhood, peers and family are bigger influencers.

Thank you for sharing your story. When you said people "borrowed you poor", it reminded me of my Viola Davis' memoir. She mentioned giving her family money as she advanced in her career. The endless needs in her family even she could not meet. My BIL has a similar experience. He is the only one in the family to go to college. He is doing well now but there is so much need, everyone in his family asks him for money. If he gave to all of them, he would have nothing left.

All of this to say there is a hopelessness that pervades when everyone around you isn't achieving academically, financially and in their interpersonal relationships.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

Do people/teens really need someone to explicitly tell them it's wrong to shoot someone for the their coat? I always thought basic ethics were innate, but maybe I'm wrong. Most people I know who didn't have the greatest childhood and didn't have adults around to guide them, still ended up pretty decent people.

I mean even wild animals are better - they generally are violent only when it comes to survival.

Yes, they do need someone to explicitly tell them because in many cases, their parents did not. My guess is you grew up in an environment where most of your friends had two parent households, jobs, education. When single parents, low incomes and lack of education is the norm rather than the exception, and when positive male role models are scarce, problems arise.

From my vantage point, the bigger issue is a sense of entitlement fueled by social media. It is toxic. No excuses for violence, just trying to share some food for thought.

Most of the people I knew grew up with immigrant parents from massive poverty. Not US/DC/American poverty, but 3rd world poverty. And none of them needed to be explicitly told do not shoot people for coats, so the fact that some people need to be explicitly told this is mind boggling.

As for me, I grew up in a single parent household where one parent died when I was a young child. I grew up with a lot of responsibility (opposite of entitlement) to take emotionally take care of my surviving parent as well as essentially raise myself, with no extended family around. Coupled with immigrant backgrounds from tremendous poverty. Stealing *anything* has never been on my radar. Truthfully you don't find this kind of criminal behavior in immigrants or children of immigrants, for the most part. And that includes Black immigrants from Africa.

I agree that social media is a massive problem, however.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

Do people/teens really need someone to explicitly tell them it's wrong to shoot someone for the their coat? I always thought basic ethics were innate, but maybe I'm wrong. Most people I know who didn't have the greatest childhood and didn't have adults around to guide them, still ended up pretty decent people.

I mean even wild animals are better - they generally are violent only when it comes to survival.

Animals don’t have guns. If they did, this is exactly how they’d act.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Animals. https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2024/01/teenager-shot-in-hyattsville-after-refusing-to-give-up-his-jacket-police-say/

"A teenage boy was shot and critically injured in Hyattsville, Maryland, on Friday afternoon after three men tried to take his jacket, according to police.

Hyattsville Police Chief Jarod Towers said during a news conference Friday the teen boy was walking with two other young teens in a neighborhood in the 3500 block of Carnaby Street around noon, when they were approached by three men.

Those men, Towers said, singled out the teen boy and tried to take his jacket, but the teenager refused and a fight broke out. During that fight, one of the men pulled out a handgun and shot the teen who had refused to give up his jacket, hitting him once.

The teen boy was taken to the hospital, where Towers described his condition as “critical but stable.”

Its very racist to refer to underprivileged youth as “animals”

If the shoe fits.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Animals. https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2024/01/teenager-shot-in-hyattsville-after-refusing-to-give-up-his-jacket-police-say/

"A teenage boy was shot and critically injured in Hyattsville, Maryland, on Friday afternoon after three men tried to take his jacket, according to police.

Hyattsville Police Chief Jarod Towers said during a news conference Friday the teen boy was walking with two other young teens in a neighborhood in the 3500 block of Carnaby Street around noon, when they were approached by three men.

Those men, Towers said, singled out the teen boy and tried to take his jacket, but the teenager refused and a fight broke out. During that fight, one of the men pulled out a handgun and shot the teen who had refused to give up his jacket, hitting him once.

The teen boy was taken to the hospital, where Towers described his condition as “critical but stable.”

Its very racist to refer to underprivileged youth as “animals”

NP hows that? An animal is an animal has nothing to do with race give it a rest!!!!

[Anonymous]

We were threatened with shooting in Montgomery County for looking at someone the “wrong” way.

It’s offensive to draw generalizations about all kids of one county merely because it’s Prince George’s with the PP’s hidden point being this situation happened in a majority black county.

Really tired of the racism.

My babysitter was murdered in Bethesda. I did not say all adults in Bethesda were animals or horrible people.

[Anonymous]

It's a "free country" . You should be free to wear brands you want. There is something wrong that we are catering to criminals and conforming all of our lifestyles to their wants and needs. They should be the ones giving up freedoms.

[Anonymous]

Welp, time to build more prisons and start locking these murderers up for life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

I've quit a volunteer program I did previously because with carjackings at the rate they are now--it happens to almost three people a day in DC--it's just not worth going into some areas of the city if it can be avoided. Unforced error.

When carjackings where in the 150s as recently as 2019, this would have never crossed my mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp here. Teens need mentors. If you are interested in being one, here is one organization: https://communityyouthadvance.org/program-overview/

Do people/teens really need someone to explicitly tell them it's wrong to shoot someone for the their coat? I always thought basic ethics were innate, but maybe I'm wrong. Most people I know who didn't have the greatest childhood and didn't have adults around to guide them, still ended up pretty decent people.

I mean even wild animals are better - they generally are violent only when it comes to survival.

Animals don’t have guns. If they did, this is exactly how they’d act.

Animals DO have “guns”. Teeth, claws, superior vision and olfactory sensitivity. Animals are absolutely “armed”.