Top colleges that are actually on the table for unhooked standard strong kids.
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Anonymous
Yes. |
Anonymous
U Chicago, Northwestern, Vandy, JHU yes--must be ED. Don't know anyone who's gotten into Chicago RD in years. Brown--kids from our magnet school don't seem to get in RD or ED. Cornell yes, Brown no. JHU very tough either way. |
Anonymous
I know an unhooked, standard strong kid who got into Brown ED this year. In fact, I know two unhooked, standard strong kids who got into Yale ED this year. All from public schools. The idea that only Olympic athletes and kids who did published research at NIH get in to these schools is just wrong. |
Anonymous
because the other sub-10% admits are full of athletes or legacy or some other hooked kid |
Anonymous
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from our school:
I'd say UChicago ED Wash U (st louis) Vandy ND Service Academies Cornell Williams Tufts USC Emory opinions vary on what's a top school of course |
Anonymous
| Apply ED to the schools people are posting, but also don’t forget about ED2 - Emory, WashU, Tufts, Chicago all have this option. Unhooked, top kids we know have been successful at these schools. Remember to aim lower for ED2 if rejected/deferred in ED1. |
Anonymous
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If we are talking about where to max out ED likelihood for a top unhooked kid, I would say
ED at: Chicago, JHU, Sandy, Cornell, Williams Of course, there will be someone who gets into Brown ED from here or there, but Brown has been ridiculously unpredictable with ED for the last few years for DC kids. The remaining schools on the list are gettable via RD for top DMV kids |
Anonymous
| I think we need to define “standard strong.” I’ll say over 3.85 GPA, over 8 AP classes, Cal BC, selective programs, strong EC’s (but nothing crazy like research), student leadership etc. |
Anonymous
| Not Dartmouth, you need to be hooked for ED. |
Anonymous
| For regular old standard strong, I’ll say USC, NYU, Emory, Rice, agree about Chicago ED, many flagships with the exception of UVA and Michigan- these are very difficult). No ivies for standard strong. No Ivy adjacent for SS. Certainly no top SLAC for SS. |
Anonymous
| What if you are 4.0 UW, 12 APs, all 5s on APs, 2 years post BC Calc, with strong ECs...what is possible...If you are saying "standard strong" is 3.85 UW, 8 APs |
Anonymous
| On the table sure, but in the context of a very balanced list of reaches, targets, safeties. The schools OP listed are of course reaches for every single applicant. |
Anonymous
That’s why it’s important to define standard strong before throwing out names. Your student is strong. Better than standard strong. |
Anonymous
Vanderbilt, Rice, Caltech, JHU, CMU. |
Anonymous
disagree. standard strong in DCUM world is 3.9 plus in a known, rigorous high school where 3.9 is top 5% of the class. AP count is rather meaningless. 8 vs 12 would have more to do with school policy of limits, etc. Test scores are 1550+. The two years post BC Calc is impressive but unusual and not more impressive than a state debate champ, which is also standard strong. IOW, these are kids who would have had a very good chance at a top 10 uni even just pre covid. |