Alright. What if you’re a woman or small framed man? Do we not have the same right to self defense as large men? Never got this stupid argument. Yeah if I was 6’5 and 300lbs of muscle I probably wouldn’t feel the need for a gun either. But I’m not, and will never be that size. And if I am accosted by someone much larger/heavier/stronger than me I will lose no matter what I do. Idiot. |
Then it sucks to be you, I guess.
Life isn’t fair. Deal with it. Just because you’re smaller or weaker doesn’t mean you should get to have a gun. No one should. Call the police. That’s what they’re for. No one said life was fair. |
No, this is the fallacy no one gets. The police are here to investigate crimes and arrest criminals. They are not going to be there when you are getting carjacked or walking down the street. They will show up when someone reports the victims body lying in the street. Politicians don't care about crime because they have security details protecting them 24/7. So, when everyday citizens are protected 24/7 by police at their side, then yes, they won't need a gun. |
I am 6'3" 235 lbs. Retired SF Officer. I carried a weapon for my entire career. Every state I have lived in I applied for and received the appropriate licenses to carry. I have never felt that the use of a sidearm or primary weapon was somehow making up for a masculinity deficiency. But people without arguments love making that argument every time. This is not a discussion that can actually be had online in the era of internet trolls. |
100% correct. Big boy needs to worry more about not having a foot amputated that he does how others protect themselves. |
NP. I now live in a non-dangerous area (upper NW), but I lived east of Rock Creek Park for 15 years before moving here a few years ago and never even considered carrying a weapon. And I'm short and easy to overpower. Weirdly, I still never needed to shoot anyone in the whole time I lived there! |
Thanks for advertising your if ignorance. You just explained that you lived east of RCP during its best era, roughly 2008 to 2020. I lived here then and it’s completely different know. Care to share more about any other places where you used to live and don’t know the current situation? |
| Fools with guns. This isn’t a movie where you can just shoot a criminal and not accidentally shoot a bystander. If you’re being carjacked how exactly do you think a gun will help you? Just as likely to get you killed. Or face charges yourself. |
Well, someone was shot to death in the alley behind my house when I lived there, and the rates of assault with a deadly weapon when I lived there were significantly higher than they are now (https://www.crimedatadc.com/ward/4/adw), so yes, you're right, everything was perfect then. |
Many criminals seem not to have gotten the memo that says they must not harm a non-resisting victim. So the choice is whether to surrender to the tender mercies of armed criminal psychopaths, or be prepared to act on one’s own behalf and the behalf of society generally in resisting criminal depravity if assaulted. “If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim.” |
Oh gawd, you believe those stats. Nevermind discussing anything with you. |
Believe the stats or not, there were people dealing drugs (and getting shot at) all the time near my house when I lived there, as well as plenty of robberies, and I never contemplated getting a gun. It may well be more dangerous now, but it's not like Ward 4 was some crime-free paradise until recently. |
Of course he keeps canned food bedside. A can of Raid Wasp & Hornet indicates “It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Do not use this product in a way that will contact any person or pet, either directly or through drift.” Want to bet Mrs. Pinto Bean uses wasp spray and gets sued by home invader? Wasp spray is a toxin. It might work immediately against some opponents; it might work later and cause them blindness (possibly permanent),respiratory issues and even anaphylactic shock which could cause their death. It is illegal in many places to use wasp spray in the manner Pinto Bean says his wife will use it. Labels specifically state that use for any other than the intended purpose is a violation of federal law (Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act). It may be illegal to even advise someone to use it in this manner. |
I’m glad you weren’t a victim. The Ward 4 home three houses down from mine had an armed invasion. No idea why they picked that particular house, it could have been any on the block I assumed. |
| I own a business in DC where my employees are all CCW. If DC really wanted to control any point of the licensing and registration process, it would allow somebody to offer those services in DC. Instead you go to MD or VA, take their class where they read a slide in it that MPD has prepared and now you are licensed in DC but have paid MD or VA. There are other levers DC could pull like offering their own CCW insurance but DC just screams about the whole situation not being fair. Then to add insult to injury, the renewal process was only recently streamlined, however, the registration and CCW licenses are not collaborative and can have different dates that are expired in some cases and still be authorized. It is a mess especially when you want to keep employees on the right side of a very complicated law. |