If your college friend is pushing her unfortunate daughter into modeling

[Anonymous]

It’s the same with parents who push their non athletic kids into sports. The world has a way of pointing out why this is a bad idea.

[Anonymous]

How old is this kid? For me, every time she brings the subject up, I would listen for X amount of time, then change the subject. Eventually, the real world will dictate their success—no need for you to crush somebody’s dream.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and just don't try to be friends with this woman.

Calling her daughter "unfortunate" and you feeling as if you need to set her straight is beyond the pale.

Not OP but what word would you prefer? Ugly? I mean if she’s not model material she’s not model material.

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. You don’t know what a particular photographer or magazine editor is looking for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and just don't try to be friends with this woman.

Calling her daughter "unfortunate" and you feeling as if you need to set her straight is beyond the pale.

Not OP but what word would you prefer? Ugly? I mean if she’s not model material she’s not model material.

A lot of successful models actually look pretty homely without the makeup etc.

+1. If the have the build, they can do the rest with makeup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does “unfortunate” mean here?

Models are tall and thin. They are not always conventionally beautiful. You’d be surprised what they look like without makeup. A LOT of modeling is just the training, like any job.

Hope this girl gets a bunch of money socked away in a Roth while you snark about her mom.

Agree with the bolded. And depending on what they’re modeling, they may not even be tall and thin.

OP, you’re not a nice person.

[Anonymous]

Let the modeling agencies decide this. Tall, thin, with a symmetrical face is a good start. Being "pretty" isn't that big a deal.

It is likely that this won't go anywhere. It's a crazy hard business. But, be gracious.

My DS has done a little bit of modeling. He's not a hunk or anything like that and definitely is not a super model.

[Anonymous]

Oh cut the crap.
The most successful models are tall, thin and beautiful and can take great pictures.

The unfortunate looking ones are nepo babies . And I'm going to guess she's not a nepo baby. Or they sleep their way to the top. It's not some magical Cinderella story

But op there really isn't anything for you to say. You can ask general 1 or 2 general questions like where the photoshoot was or a particular outfit. Add some stock phrases Look at that ! How about that! You can ask a non related modeling question is Larla still into sailing o remember she loved that and was so good at it. Then change the subject.

Not much more to say unless you think mom is being taken in my scams .

[Anonymous]

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+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh cut the crap.
The most successful models are tall, thin and beautiful and can take great pictures.

The unfortunate looking ones are nepo babies . And I'm going to guess she's not a nepo baby. Or they sleep their way to the top. It's not some magical Cinderella story

But op there really isn't anything for you to say. You can ask general 1 or 2 general questions like where the photoshoot was or a particular outfit. Add some stock phrases Look at that ! How about that! You can ask a non related modeling question is Larla still into sailing o remember she loved that and was so good at it. Then change the subject.

Not much more to say unless you think mom is being taken in my scams .

Photogenic means a lot of different things. It can mean Christy Turlington but it can also mean Jack Black -- both those people are photogenic, in really different ways.

There are also a decent number of fashion models who just do runway and don't do very little commercial or editorial work, but get booked for shows because they are the requisite height and weight and can take the "look" a designer is going for, which is often not "pretty."

There is also a whole world of models who look like regular people and do commercial work. It's like a parallel to character actors (and indeed some people work as both character actors and models) -- they aren't necessarily stunningly beautiful, but they might have a certain aesthetic that appeals to certain advertisers. Think of the people you see in ads for furniture or crackers or board games. Are these people tall, thin, and strikingly beautiful? No, they might look wholesome, or discerning, or goofy, depending on the product and the concept behind the ad. Well those are all models. I think some people assume they are all random people plucked off the street but nope. An agency held a casting and looked at a bunch of people with similar looks and picked that one.

This can be especially true for children. Lots of child models never do anything even remotely resembling fashion modeling, either as kids or adults. There's actually pretty limited fashion work for kids -- mostly catalog work and then some ad campaigns. No runway, and very little editorial except when kids are used in adult magazine shoots. Most modeling work for kids is in ads.

Sometimes a kid can have a successful few years of modeling because they have really charming curly hair, or great coloring with freckles, or (and this is actually a huge one) they have an ambiguous racial appearance and thus can be cast in a wide variety of family shoots. And actually some of the biggest factors for kids in terms of booking modeling jobs is being able to take direction, having good time availability, and having parents/handlers who make everyone else's job easier instead of harder.

I am not a huge fan of making kids work except in rare situations where the kids are genuinely self driven to do something (which could be the case here, we don't know). But OP is being so obnoxious about this that honestly I hope her friend's kid has a good run with modeling, makes some money for college, and OP has to eat her words. It's really none of her business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and just don't try to be friends with this woman.

Calling her daughter "unfortunate" and you feeling as if you need to set her straight is beyond the pale.

Not OP but what word would you prefer? Ugly? I mean if she’s not model material she’s not model material.

75% of modeling work is being able to show up at a show or shoot on time, straight, clean and sober, and drama free, and not be a complete pain in the ass to work with. That, more than anything else, gets the VAST majority of models who aren’t supermodel-level talent, call backs.

There are enough niches and genres of modeling to the point where almost anyone can do it. All types of product/advertising, stock photo work, fashion, live runway - there’s more than enough work to go around for people (men AND women) to make it a semi lucrative side hustle.

But more important than anything else - show up for the event on time and don’t bring any drama. That will get you rebooked over someone else generally considered objectively more attractive, but who’s a PITA.

-a photog who occasionally does model shoots as a side hustle.

[Anonymous]

MYOB

And many models are “unfortunate” looking. That doesn’t matter because they fix that during make up and hair. As long as they are tall and skinny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh cut the crap.
The most successful models are tall, thin and beautiful and can take great pictures.

The unfortunate looking ones are nepo babies . And I'm going to guess she's not a nepo baby. Or they sleep their way to the top. It's not some magical Cinderella story

But op there really isn't anything for you to say. You can ask general 1 or 2 general questions like where the photoshoot was or a particular outfit. Add some stock phrases Look at that ! How about that! You can ask a non related modeling question is Larla still into sailing o remember she loved that and was so good at it. Then change the subject.

Not much more to say unless you think mom is being taken in my scams .

Photogenic means a lot of different things. It can mean Christy Turlington but it can also mean Jack Black -- both those people are photogenic, in really different ways.

There are also a decent number of fashion models who just do runway and don't do very little commercial or editorial work, but get booked for shows because they are the requisite height and weight and can take the "look" a designer is going for, which is often not "pretty."

There is also a whole world of models who look like regular people and do commercial work. It's like a parallel to character actors (and indeed some people work as both character actors and models) -- they aren't necessarily stunningly beautiful, but they might have a certain aesthetic that appeals to certain advertisers. Think of the people you see in ads for furniture or crackers or board games. Are these people tall, thin, and strikingly beautiful? No, they might look wholesome, or discerning, or goofy, depending on the product and the concept behind the ad. Well those are all models. I think some people assume they are all random people plucked off the street but nope. An agency held a casting and looked at a bunch of people with similar looks and picked that one.

This can be especially true for children. Lots of child models never do anything even remotely resembling fashion modeling, either as kids or adults. There's actually pretty limited fashion work for kids -- mostly catalog work and then some ad campaigns. No runway, and very little editorial except when kids are used in adult magazine shoots. Most modeling work for kids is in ads.

Sometimes a kid can have a successful few years of modeling because they have really charming curly hair, or great coloring with freckles, or (and this is actually a huge one) they have an ambiguous racial appearance and thus can be cast in a wide variety of family shoots. And actually some of the biggest factors for kids in terms of booking modeling jobs is being able to take direction, having good time availability, and having parents/handlers who make everyone else's job easier instead of harder.

I am not a huge fan of making kids work except in rare situations where the kids are genuinely self driven to do something (which could be the case here, we don't know). But OP is being so obnoxious about this that honestly I hope her friend's kid has a good run with modeling, makes some money for college, and OP has to eat her words. It's really none of her business.

Ha! This. I posted above that my DS does some modeling on the side. Just print work for commercial clothing lines. He does have a slightly ambiguous racial appearance. That's totally true. He's also nice, quiet, and polite. He's not fat. Sometimes fat works because they want to showcase the larger sizes but he just does the standard sizes.

[Anonymous]

I mean the new bigger vs models are unfortunate looking too. The stretch marks and jelly rolls aren't model worthy but the woke demand them. Basically the bar has swung low for modeling and people rich ones like your friend can buy modeling gigs.

[Anonymous]

OP, do your friend a favor and drop her as a friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What does “unfortunate” mean here?

Models are tall and thin. They are not always conventionally beautiful. You’d be surprised what they look like without makeup. A LOT of modeling is just the training, like any job.

Hope this girl gets a bunch of money socked away in a Roth while you snark about her mom.

Yup! Many models look odd in real life w/o makeup and hair fixes. MYOB OP.