If your college friend is pushing her unfortunate daughter into modeling

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh cut the crap.
The most successful models are tall, thin and beautiful and can take great pictures.

The unfortunate looking ones are nepo babies . And I'm going to guess she's not a nepo baby. Or they sleep their way to the top. It's not some magical Cinderella story

But op there really isn't anything for you to say. You can ask general 1 or 2 general questions like where the photoshoot was or a particular outfit. Add some stock phrases Look at that ! How about that! You can ask a non related modeling question is Larla still into sailing o remember she loved that and was so good at it. Then change the subject.

Not much more to say unless you think mom is being taken in my scams .

Photogenic means a lot of different things. It can mean Christy Turlington but it can also mean Jack Black -- both those people are photogenic, in really different ways.

There are also a decent number of fashion models who just do runway and don't do very little commercial or editorial work, but get booked for shows because they are the requisite height and weight and can take the "look" a designer is going for, which is often not "pretty."

There is also a whole world of models who look like regular people and do commercial work. It's like a parallel to character actors (and indeed some people work as both character actors and models) -- they aren't necessarily stunningly beautiful, but they might have a certain aesthetic that appeals to certain advertisers. Think of the people you see in ads for furniture or crackers or board games. Are these people tall, thin, and strikingly beautiful? No, they might look wholesome, or discerning, or goofy, depending on the product and the concept behind the ad. Well those are all models. I think some people assume they are all random people plucked off the street but nope. An agency held a casting and looked at a bunch of people with similar looks and picked that one.

This can be especially true for children. Lots of child models never do anything even remotely resembling fashion modeling, either as kids or adults. There's actually pretty limited fashion work for kids -- mostly catalog work and then some ad campaigns. No runway, and very little editorial except when kids are used in adult magazine shoots. Most modeling work for kids is in ads.

Sometimes a kid can have a successful few years of modeling because they have really charming curly hair, or great coloring with freckles, or (and this is actually a huge one) they have an ambiguous racial appearance and thus can be cast in a wide variety of family shoots. And actually some of the biggest factors for kids in terms of booking modeling jobs is being able to take direction, having good time availability, and having parents/handlers who make everyone else's job easier instead of harder.

I am not a huge fan of making kids work except in rare situations where the kids are genuinely self driven to do something (which could be the case here, we don't know). But OP is being so obnoxious about this that honestly I hope her friend's kid has a good run with modeling, makes some money for college, and OP has to eat her words. It's really none of her business.

What a thoughtful and informative answer. Hopefully the OP will take read it and reconsider her initial reaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And wants you to fawn over her modeling photos, how long before the facade drops and you tell her the truth - find a new hobby?

Dang. You're either just mean or just jealous. Not nice at all.
But don't worry, the modeling only happens to their kind. Let Mom have her happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh cut the crap.
The most successful models are tall, thin and beautiful and can take great pictures.

The unfortunate looking ones are nepo babies . And I'm going to guess she's not a nepo baby. Or they sleep their way to the top. It's not some magical Cinderella story

But op there really isn't anything for you to say. You can ask general 1 or 2 general questions like where the photoshoot was or a particular outfit. Add some stock phrases Look at that ! How about that! You can ask a non related modeling question is Larla still into sailing o remember she loved that and was so good at it. Then change the subject.

Not much more to say unless you think mom is being taken in my scams .

Photogenic means a lot of different things. It can mean Christy Turlington but it can also mean Jack Black -- both those people are photogenic, in really different ways.

There are also a decent number of fashion models who just do runway and don't do very little commercial or editorial work, but get booked for shows because they are the requisite height and weight and can take the "look" a designer is going for, which is often not "pretty."

There is also a whole world of models who look like regular people and do commercial work. It's like a parallel to character actors (and indeed some people work as both character actors and models) -- they aren't necessarily stunningly beautiful, but they might have a certain aesthetic that appeals to certain advertisers. Think of the people you see in ads for furniture or crackers or board games. Are these people tall, thin, and strikingly beautiful? No, they might look wholesome, or discerning, or goofy, depending on the product and the concept behind the ad. Well those are all models. I think some people assume they are all random people plucked off the street but nope. An agency held a casting and looked at a bunch of people with similar looks and picked that one.

This can be especially true for children. Lots of child models never do anything even remotely resembling fashion modeling, either as kids or adults. There's actually pretty limited fashion work for kids -- mostly catalog work and then some ad campaigns. No runway, and very little editorial except when kids are used in adult magazine shoots. Most modeling work for kids is in ads.

Sometimes a kid can have a successful few years of modeling because they have really charming curly hair, or great coloring with freckles, or (and this is actually a huge one) they have an ambiguous racial appearance and thus can be cast in a wide variety of family shoots. And actually some of the biggest factors for kids in terms of booking modeling jobs is being able to take direction, having good time availability, and having parents/handlers who make everyone else's job easier instead of harder.

I am not a huge fan of making kids work except in rare situations where the kids are genuinely self driven to do something (which could be the case here, we don't know). But OP is being so obnoxious about this that honestly I hope her friend's kid has a good run with modeling, makes some money for college, and OP has to eat her words. It's really none of her business.

NP - thank you for explaining. it's consistent with what i learned through friends in the fashion industry.

[Anonymous]

What is the kid modeling for? Is the mom paying for the photos or is the kid getting real jobs?

My friend's kids model and I routinely spot them in Gap ads, Target displays and other commercial work. Heck, I sent her a photo when her 6 yo's face was blown up and displayed in a huge ad in an airport terminal. I'd call that successful, regardless of what I think of her kids' appearances. Hopefully any earnings are going in college accounts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And wants you to fawn over her modeling photos, how long before the facade drops and you tell her the truth - find a new hobby?

You are the one who needs to find a new hobby, OP. Gloating on DCUM over how you think your friend's daughter won't make it as a model is really ugly. And I feel like there is a good chance you just know nothing about it and the girl's pics are great. Or the girl's pictures are great and you are so jealous you have convinced yourself otherwise to save your fragile ego from implosion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And wants you to fawn over her modeling photos, how long before the facade drops and you tell her the truth - find a new hobby?

You are the one who needs to find a new hobby, OP. Gloating on DCUM over how you think your friend's daughter won't make it as a model is really ugly. And I feel like there is a good chance you just know nothing about it and the girl's pics are great. Or the girl's pictures are great and you are so jealous you have convinced yourself otherwise to save your fragile ego from implosion.

+1

So ugly - OP, that is. Same story of the college boards, the jealousy actually makes you so gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and just don't try to be friends with this woman.

Calling her daughter "unfortunate" and you feeling as if you need to set her straight is beyond the pale.

Not OP but what word would you prefer? Ugly? I mean if she’s not model material she’s not model material.

A lot of successful models actually look pretty homely without the makeup etc.

I’ve known some successful models who looked downright odd IRL.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is ragging on the OP, but I think her friend is annoying as hell. If her daughter gets a job, great she can mention it in conversation. It is not okay to force other people to look through her headshots and fish for compliments. The friend is awful, not OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And wants you to fawn over her modeling photos, how long before the facade drops and you tell her the truth - find a new hobby?

You sound jealous. I feel badly for your "friend" who actually thinks you give a dam* about her, and her family.

[Anonymous]

My friend did this. She lives in the south and kept entering her daughter (now in college) into beauty pagents where you just submit a picture. She'd post on Facebook asking everyone to vote for her daughter. Eventually after the daughter NEVER placed at all, she quietly just stopped . Sweet and smart girl, but just very average looking.

Don't say anything. The casting agents will immediately pick up on that the mother is pushing this, and won't sign the girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And wants you to fawn over her modeling photos, how long before the facade drops and you tell her the truth - find a new hobby?

You sound jealous. I feel badly for your "friend" who actually thinks you give a dam* about her, and her family.

NP: what is there to be jealous of in this situation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And wants you to fawn over her modeling photos, how long before the facade drops and you tell her the truth - find a new hobby?

You sound jealous. I feel badly for your "friend" who actually thinks you give a dam* about her, and her family.

NP: what is there to be jealous of in this situation?

+1 The OP is a jerk, but this is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh cut the crap.
The most successful models are tall, thin and beautiful and can take great pictures.

The unfortunate looking ones are nepo babies . And I'm going to guess she's not a nepo baby. Or they sleep their way to the top. It's not some magical Cinderella story

But op there really isn't anything for you to say. You can ask general 1 or 2 general questions like where the photoshoot was or a particular outfit. Add some stock phrases Look at that ! How about that! You can ask a non related modeling question is Larla still into sailing o remember she loved that and was so good at it. Then change the subject.

Not much more to say unless you think mom is being taken in my scams .

Photogenic means a lot of different things. It can mean Christy Turlington but it can also mean Jack Black -- both those people are photogenic, in really different ways.

There are also a decent number of fashion models who just do runway and don't do very little commercial or editorial work, but get booked for shows because they are the requisite height and weight and can take the "look" a designer is going for, which is often not "pretty."

There is also a whole world of models who look like regular people and do commercial work. It's like a parallel to character actors (and indeed some people work as both character actors and models) -- they aren't necessarily stunningly beautiful, but they might have a certain aesthetic that appeals to certain advertisers. Think of the people you see in ads for furniture or crackers or board games. Are these people tall, thin, and strikingly beautiful? No, they might look wholesome, or discerning, or goofy, depending on the product and the concept behind the ad. Well those are all models. I think some people assume they are all random people plucked off the street but nope. An agency held a casting and looked at a bunch of people with similar looks and picked that one.

This can be especially true for children. Lots of child models never do anything even remotely resembling fashion modeling, either as kids or adults. There's actually pretty limited fashion work for kids -- mostly catalog work and then some ad campaigns. No runway, and very little editorial except when kids are used in adult magazine shoots. Most modeling work for kids is in ads.

Sometimes a kid can have a successful few years of modeling because they have really charming curly hair, or great coloring with freckles, or (and this is actually a huge one) they have an ambiguous racial appearance and thus can be cast in a wide variety of family shoots. And actually some of the biggest factors for kids in terms of booking modeling jobs is being able to take direction, having good time availability, and having parents/handlers who make everyone else's job easier instead of harder.

I am not a huge fan of making kids work except in rare situations where the kids are genuinely self driven to do something (which could be the case here, we don't know). But OP is being so obnoxious about this that honestly I hope her friend's kid has a good run with modeling, makes some money for college, and OP has to eat her words. It's really none of her business.

What a thoughtful and informative answer. Hopefully the OP will take read it and reconsider her initial reaction.

+1 I love when a knowledgeable PP like this chimes in and sets a tone worth following.

[Anonymous]

Just be happy for people. Jeez

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do yourself a favor and just don't try to be friends with this woman.

Calling her daughter "unfortunate" and you feeling as if you need to set her straight is beyond the pale.

Not OP but what word would you prefer? Ugly? I mean if she’s not model material she’s not model material.

A lot of successful models actually look pretty homely without the makeup etc.

+1

Or the cosmetic surgery which is so prevalent today.

Look at how beautiful Kylie Jenner is now - however as a young teen she was simply average in the looks department & now w/lip fillers, a nose job, etc. she is modeling for not only her beauty corporation but has done modeling for high-end brands out there.