504 - kid forgets to turn in homework

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Anonymous wrote:Not for the 504 per say, but as a SPED teacher I would first make sure that they have a plastic homework folder. One location that any assignment that needs to be turned in goes into.

A watch like the one below set to vibrate 5 minutes after the start of each class can also help remind them to look at the folder to find assignments to turn in. If they have a phone you could set up the same alarm system on vibrate, but may not work if they already have a lot of notifications and ignore them.

I may get flamed for this but accommodations of teacher signing off on the agenda can be very difficult at the middle and high school level when students have multiple teachers to have done with fidelity. I try to help develop accommodations that also think about the executive functioning of teachers. Some teachers are just not as organized, not because they are bad teachers, but they themselves suffer from executive functioning difficulties. As someone who is super organized myself when teaching 125 students over 5 class periods the agenda check has always been the most difficult accommodation to remember to implement even with loads of reminders, post it notes, calendar invites I have made for myself. I only say this because this is the most obvious accommodation people will say to add, but I've never really seen it done well and consistently in a 7 period class schedule.

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Op here. This is extremely helpful, thank you!

Teacher here.... to PP teacher, why would you just not end the period 5 mins early and tell everyone to get out their notebooks and write down the assignment?

It's easy to do this at the beginning or end of a period.

Yes, I get 5 mins less to teach but all my kids have better odds of doing the homework.

Teacher here. I go over HW in the first 5 minutes of class. I tell students to write it down but many don’t do write it down. Some kids come in habitually late and miss the instructions. I also have 32-33 kids in every class period so I cannot check that they have all written it down. I also don’t have my phone out so sometimes I lose track of time and the period ends. There is no working clock in my room. Signing an agenda every day would be tough. I am organized but 33 kids with many different needs is not easy

[Anonymous]

Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not for the 504 per say, but as a SPED teacher I would first make sure that they have a plastic homework folder. One location that any assignment that needs to be turned in goes into.

A watch like the one below set to vibrate 5 minutes after the start of each class can also help remind them to look at the folder to find assignments to turn in. If they have a phone you could set up the same alarm system on vibrate, but may not work if they already have a lot of notifications and ignore them.

I may get flamed for this but accommodations of teacher signing off on the agenda can be very difficult at the middle and high school level when students have multiple teachers to have done with fidelity. I try to help develop accommodations that also think about the executive functioning of teachers. Some teachers are just not as organized, not because they are bad teachers, but they themselves suffer from executive functioning difficulties. As someone who is super organized myself when teaching 125 students over 5 class periods the agenda check has always been the most difficult accommodation to remember to implement even with loads of reminders, post it notes, calendar invites I have made for myself. I only say this because this is the most obvious accommodation people will say to add, but I've never really seen it done well and consistently in a 7 period class schedule.

https://watchminder.com/?matchtype=&network=g&device=c&adposition=&keyword=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-KipBhBtEiwAWjgwrEXEozGnRJkrDjVaeyG3-Xn2AHjmKwNkcSZaRfJ-npCVv80aRwUUbhoCm_MQAvD_BwE

Op here. This is extremely helpful, thank you!

Teacher here.... to PP teacher, why would you just not end the period 5 mins early and tell everyone to get out their notebooks and write down the assignment?

It's easy to do this at the beginning or end of a period.

Yes, I get 5 mins less to teach but all my kids have better odds of doing the homework.

Teacher here. I go over HW in the first 5 minutes of class. I tell students to write it down but many don’t do write it down. Some kids come in habitually late and miss the instructions. I also have 32-33 kids in every class period so I cannot check that they have all written it down. I also don’t have my phone out so sometimes I lose track of time and the period ends. There is no working clock in my room. Signing an agenda every day would be tough. I am organized but 33 kids with many different needs is not easy

An accommodation doesn't require that you check all students, just the ones with accommodations. You control where the students sit, so you can cluster in a way that facilitates this.

Also, you don't need to sign, many teachers use a stamp for this or have stickers to use.

Do you post all homework assignments and notices online? That can also alleviate some of your burden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

+1. The go-to move in disability discrimination - particularly "invisible discrimination" - is to blame parents.

I cannot effectively change my DC's behavior if I do not have a partner in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not for the 504 per say, but as a SPED teacher I would first make sure that they have a plastic homework folder. One location that any assignment that needs to be turned in goes into.

A watch like the one below set to vibrate 5 minutes after the start of each class can also help remind them to look at the folder to find assignments to turn in. If they have a phone you could set up the same alarm system on vibrate, but may not work if they already have a lot of notifications and ignore them.

I may get flamed for this but accommodations of teacher signing off on the agenda can be very difficult at the middle and high school level when students have multiple teachers to have done with fidelity. I try to help develop accommodations that also think about the executive functioning of teachers. Some teachers are just not as organized, not because they are bad teachers, but they themselves suffer from executive functioning difficulties. As someone who is super organized myself when teaching 125 students over 5 class periods the agenda check has always been the most difficult accommodation to remember to implement even with loads of reminders, post it notes, calendar invites I have made for myself. I only say this because this is the most obvious accommodation people will say to add, but I've never really seen it done well and consistently in a 7 period class schedule.

https://watchminder.com/?matchtype=&network=g&device=c&adposition=&keyword=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-KipBhBtEiwAWjgwrEXEozGnRJkrDjVaeyG3-Xn2AHjmKwNkcSZaRfJ-npCVv80aRwUUbhoCm_MQAvD_BwE

Op here. This is extremely helpful, thank you!

Teacher here.... to PP teacher, why would you just not end the period 5 mins early and tell everyone to get out their notebooks and write down the assignment?

It's easy to do this at the beginning or end of a period.

Yes, I get 5 mins less to teach but all my kids have better odds of doing the homework.

This is the PP. I only teach self contained courses at the high school level now so my entire course is developed to support students with these areas of needs and honestly don't do homework as not all my students have the same access to support at home.

I made that comment more as a case carrier who has had to be in charge of trying to get teachers whose classes I don't teach in to complete this accommodation on a daily basis for students on my caseload.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

To be fair, many parents are not trying consistently at home to figure it out. They often want the school to manage everything school related

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

+1. The go-to move in disability discrimination - particularly "invisible discrimination" - is to blame parents.

I cannot effectively change my DC's behavior if I do not have a partner in the classroom.

Teachers can help but they have 20-30 students and you have your child(ren).
Can you work harder to set your kid up for success? Does your kid have a daily planner? Do you review it together every night? Do you then assemble all necessary materials for the next (or ensure that student has)? Can you set alarms on child's watch?
Also I don't really understand this particular situation. Do you mean the teacher asks students to turn homework in and your child can't find it? Or isn't paying attention and doesn't notice that all the other kids are handing work in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

+1. The go-to move in disability discrimination - particularly "invisible discrimination" - is to blame parents.

I cannot effectively change my DC's behavior if I do not have a partner in the classroom.

Teachers can help but they have 20-30 students and you have your child(ren).
Can you work harder to set your kid up for success? Does your kid have a daily planner? Do you review it together every night? Do you then assemble all necessary materials for the next (or ensure that student has)? Can you set alarms on child's watch?
Also I don't really understand this particular situation. Do you mean the teacher asks students to turn homework in and your child can't find it? Or isn't paying attention and doesn't notice that all the other kids are handing work in?

Your child is number 1 in your life.
Teachers are already rushed and busy and have a total of 120-150 students to worry about. This may be better solved at home but you can also email his teachers and ask for their support

[Anonymous]

I’m with the teachers here - parents need to accept that for some kids there will be a long ugly learning curve for homework protocols
and there will be many failures over time as kids learn the process. Don’t flip out at teachers or your kids especially in the early years if there are hiccups - but be realistic that this skill takes time -often even years to develop - and ultimately your kid will be the one to decide if they master it or not. My kid got many Bs, Cs and even Ds in elementary school and middle school on a regular basis. So many calls and notes from teachers for not showing work and failure to do or hand in homework. This problem persisted from elementary school til early HS. Same kid graduated Summa Cum Laude from college and recently graduated from an Ivy League Law school. Point is - do your best with reminders and don’t give up on your kid. Most of all don’t make this your teachers problem to solve - it’s your KIDs problem. In our case there were many imperfect report cards- and I think this is important because it’s the consequence of not mastering the skill. For this issue, kids need time and patience from both parents and educators and not accommodations. It’s okay if the transcript is not perfect. Build resilience and grit -once it clicks it’s a huge boost of confidence- but don’t look for teachers to make things perfect and save them from messing up. Messing up IS part of the process.

[Anonymous]

notes from teachers for ...

Doing math in pen.
No need to ever erase. He was always -that- confident in the answer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

I’d do this. The schools are very relaxed and there is leeway. So just help your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m with the teachers here - parents need to accept that for some kids there will be a long ugly learning curve for homework protocols
and there will be many failures over time as kids learn the process. Don’t flip out at teachers or your kids especially in the early years if there are hiccups - but be realistic that this skill takes time -often even years to develop - and ultimately your kid will be the one to decide if they master it or not. My kid got many Bs, Cs and even Ds in elementary school and middle school on a regular basis. So many calls and notes from teachers for not showing work and failure to do or hand in homework. This problem persisted from elementary school til early HS. Same kid graduated Summa Cum Laude from college and recently graduated from an Ivy League Law school. Point is - do your best with reminders and don’t give up on your kid. Most of all don’t make this your teachers problem to solve - it’s your KIDs problem. In our case there were many imperfect report cards- and I think this is important because it’s the consequence of not mastering the skill. For this issue, kids need time and patience from both parents and educators and not accommodations. It’s okay if the transcript is not perfect. Build resilience and grit -once it clicks it’s a huge boost of confidence- but don’t look for teachers to make things perfect and save them from messing up. Messing up IS part of the process.

Congratulations to your kid. He has done well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

+1. The go-to move in disability discrimination - particularly "invisible discrimination" - is to blame parents.

I cannot effectively change my DC's behavior if I do not have a partner in the classroom.

Nope. Parents want schools to do the work so they don’t have to. I have a child with various learning disabilities so I get the instinct to rely on the school because I don’t want to fight the battle at home but with turning homework in??? Come on. Just get the kid to do it. Help organize them. If they don’t do it, follow up with teachers to have her prompt kid. You don’t need more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not focus on getting your child to remember to turn HW in? Ask every single day after school - did you turn your hw in?
Remind them every single morning before school to turn hw in. Send them a text message during school with a single word - HW. Tell them to turn it in during lunch if they forgot earlier. Or detour to the class where they forgot and drop it off while they are on their way to another class. This will be more helpful in the long run then trying to throw it all on the teachers who are already slammed

LMFAO. Do you genuinely believe other parents haven’t tried this? We resort to accommodations at school because we as parents have been doing it for years to no avail. Get off your high horse please.

+1. The go-to move in disability discrimination - particularly "invisible discrimination" - is to blame parents.

I cannot effectively change my DC's behavior if I do not have a partner in the classroom.

Nope. Parents want schools to do the work so they don’t have to. I have a child with various learning disabilities so I get the instinct to rely on the school because I don’t want to fight the battle at home but with turning homework in??? Come on. Just get the kid to do it. Help organize them. If they don’t do it, follow up with teachers to have her prompt kid. You don’t need more.

What you suggest is an accommodation from the school. It might not be formalized in a document, but it’s still an accommodation.