504 - kid forgets to turn in homework

[Anonymous]

First year in middle school - stuggling to turn paper assignments in, I think exacerbated by the green/blue schedule. Does anyone have anything useful in their kid's 504 that gets at this? I'm waiting until i have a sense of what my son needs to reschedule a meeting.

[Anonymous]

FWIW worth most publics ignore 504s because they are not enforceable by law (IEPs are but more difficult to obtain)

[Anonymous]

Op. We have been finding the teachers have been respecting it with seat placement. Just looking for ideas. I'm manage the implementation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW worth most publics ignore 504s because they are not enforceable by law (IEPs are but more difficult to obtain)

🤦🏻‍♀️ 504 plans are absolutely enforceable by law - don’t listen to this PP idiot.

[Anonymous]

We never officially wrote it into his 504 or then IEP, which both unfortunately were useless in public school. But what helped my kid was taking a photo of the assignment and electronically, through email or a Schoology message. He had certain individual teachers who were very accommodating and welcoming of this. They understood how his papers got lost and were happy he could show he did the work.

[Anonymous]

^sorry, that came out jumbled. He sent it to the teacher as an attachment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^sorry, that came out jumbled. He sent it to the teacher as an attachment.

+1 I hope you have good teachers who would allow this. One of DC's teachers this year is really understanding about this and we are very appreciative.

[Anonymous]

I was wondering about asking about emailing the work, but was worried that would seem too much. I will inquire about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW worth most publics ignore 504s because they are not enforceable by law (IEPs are but more difficult to obtain)

🤦🏻‍♀️ 504 plans are absolutely enforceable by law - don’t listen to this PP idiot.

Not in DC. That’s what my DC special Ed lawyer told me. Absolutely no way to enforce a 504. Sad but true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We never officially wrote it into his 504 or then IEP, which both unfortunately were useless in public school. But what helped my kid was taking a photo of the assignment and electronically, through email or a Schoology message. He had certain individual teachers who were very accommodating and welcoming of this. They understood how his papers got lost and were happy he could show he did the work.

Our public school prohibited MS students from using their phone during class.

We had an accommodation for being allowed to use a phone to take a picture of the assignment written on the board or to take pics of other stuff projected on the screen (instead of taking notes).

TBH, DS didn't love using the phone because it stirred resentment and questions about why he got to use it while others didn't.

We added two more accommodations - copy of class notes and teacher signing planner daily to check and see that homework had been written down. This accommodation can also be awkward if teacher uses it to single out student, but good teachers just leave 5 mins at the end of each class and say "take out your planners and write homework" and randomly check or sticker other students in addition to the ones with accoms.

[Anonymous]

You can't get a 504 without a diagnosis and need. There is a litmus test that my type I diabetic barely passed based on the way it's written.

[Anonymous]

Not for the 504 per say, but as a SPED teacher I would first make sure that they have a plastic homework folder. One location that any assignment that needs to be turned in goes into.

A watch like the one below set to vibrate 5 minutes after the start of each class can also help remind them to look at the folder to find assignments to turn in. If they have a phone you could set up the same alarm system on vibrate, but may not work if they already have a lot of notifications and ignore them.

I may get flamed for this but accommodations of teacher signing off on the agenda can be very difficult at the middle and high school level when students have multiple teachers to have done with fidelity. I try to help develop accommodations that also think about the executive functioning of teachers. Some teachers are just not as organized, not because they are bad teachers, but they themselves suffer from executive functioning difficulties. As someone who is super organized myself when teaching 125 students over 5 class periods the agenda check has always been the most difficult accommodation to remember to implement even with loads of reminders, post it notes, calendar invites I have made for myself. I only say this because this is the most obvious accommodation people will say to add, but I've never really seen it done well and consistently in a 7 period class schedule.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First year in middle school - stuggling to turn paper assignments in, I think exacerbated by the green/blue schedule. Does anyone have anything useful in their kid's 504 that gets at this? I'm waiting until i have a sense of what my son needs to reschedule a meeting.

Ask for a requirement that teacher directly requests homework from your child.

If they say no, then set an alarm on their phone ring 2 minutes into every class period, to remind the child to ask if any homework is needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not for the 504 per say, but as a SPED teacher I would first make sure that they have a plastic homework folder. One location that any assignment that needs to be turned in goes into.

A watch like the one below set to vibrate 5 minutes after the start of each class can also help remind them to look at the folder to find assignments to turn in. If they have a phone you could set up the same alarm system on vibrate, but may not work if they already have a lot of notifications and ignore them.

I may get flamed for this but accommodations of teacher signing off on the agenda can be very difficult at the middle and high school level when students have multiple teachers to have done with fidelity. I try to help develop accommodations that also think about the executive functioning of teachers. Some teachers are just not as organized, not because they are bad teachers, but they themselves suffer from executive functioning difficulties. As someone who is super organized myself when teaching 125 students over 5 class periods the agenda check has always been the most difficult accommodation to remember to implement even with loads of reminders, post it notes, calendar invites I have made for myself. I only say this because this is the most obvious accommodation people will say to add, but I've never really seen it done well and consistently in a 7 period class schedule.

https://watchminder.com/?matchtype=&network=g&device=c&adposition=&keyword=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-KipBhBtEiwAWjgwrEXEozGnRJkrDjVaeyG3-Xn2AHjmKwNkcSZaRfJ-npCVv80aRwUUbhoCm_MQAvD_BwE

Op here. This is extremely helpful, thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not for the 504 per say, but as a SPED teacher I would first make sure that they have a plastic homework folder. One location that any assignment that needs to be turned in goes into.

A watch like the one below set to vibrate 5 minutes after the start of each class can also help remind them to look at the folder to find assignments to turn in. If they have a phone you could set up the same alarm system on vibrate, but may not work if they already have a lot of notifications and ignore them.

I may get flamed for this but accommodations of teacher signing off on the agenda can be very difficult at the middle and high school level when students have multiple teachers to have done with fidelity. I try to help develop accommodations that also think about the executive functioning of teachers. Some teachers are just not as organized, not because they are bad teachers, but they themselves suffer from executive functioning difficulties. As someone who is super organized myself when teaching 125 students over 5 class periods the agenda check has always been the most difficult accommodation to remember to implement even with loads of reminders, post it notes, calendar invites I have made for myself. I only say this because this is the most obvious accommodation people will say to add, but I've never really seen it done well and consistently in a 7 period class schedule.

https://watchminder.com/?matchtype=&network=g&device=c&adposition=&keyword=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-KipBhBtEiwAWjgwrEXEozGnRJkrDjVaeyG3-Xn2AHjmKwNkcSZaRfJ-npCVv80aRwUUbhoCm_MQAvD_BwE

Op here. This is extremely helpful, thank you!

Teacher here.... to PP teacher, why would you just not end the period 5 mins early and tell everyone to get out their notebooks and write down the assignment?

It's easy to do this at the beginning or end of a period.

Yes, I get 5 mins less to teach but all my kids have better odds of doing the homework.