Cognitive decline or long-standing mental disorder is the #1 reason. They have good intentions, but are lying to themselves as well- that they did this or that, or that they didn’t turn in the Nat gas fireplace and leave it running. They didn’t INTEND to leave the door unlocked or the kid at practice all night, therefore they will not take responsibility for having done so. Weirdest disconnect in brain wiring ever. But it destroys trust and reliability. |
Second is simply poor social skills and verbal Communication skills. My adhd kid will make up stuff when with friends- she saw a movie (that isn’t out yet), that she heard XYZ, that she is going to the concert. Sadly it’s because she truly thinks this is how back and forth conversations go. It certainly won’t fly come teen years; she’ll get called out on it. Making stuff up. It’s not cute. And she has a ton of life experiences, trips, sports, to talk about or weave in to conversations but instead says made up stuff. It drives her younger sister nuts. |
I don’t think passing off a store-bought pie as your own cooking quite rises to what you’re describing. |
It’s a petty obvious lie and store bought desserts suk and are loaded with sugar. |
In older people, it's this. I do think insecurity and poor communication skills can play a role, but I think in people over age 60 and especially over age 70, it's driven by cognitive decline and the lying is their effort to cover up for their inability to remember things or for mistakes they make. With my mom, she also started lying about stuff that happened in the past a lot. I honestly can't tell how much of it is straight up laying about stuff she remembers but doesn't want to admit (stuff like hitting us, yelling at us, major family dysfunction, etc.) and how much of it is that her brain is declining and has conveniently forgotten her worst memories, so she's just replaced them with nice things. But in my mom's mind, we had an idyllic family life. It's interesting. I think what I've learned is most important is learning to detach from all of it. My sister does not do this and she is constantly enraged with my mom for the lying. Right now my sister won't even speak to her. And on the one hand, my mom does lie and is unreliable all the time and I get why that's upsetting for my sister. On the other hand, I wish my sister would have some self-awareness about WHY the lying makes her so mad. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that when we were kids, my mom accused us of lying all the time even when we told the truth, she punished us for things we didn't do, she would assume that if we made a mistake or did something dumb, it was malicious and intended to anger or embarrass her, etc. And I think my sister internalized all that and is now doing the same to my mom, and I wish she'd realize what I also wish my mom had realized when we were kids -- you have to accept other people's limitations and love them where they are at. My mom is not suddenly going to get sharper, start remembering things, and stop lying. This is just where she is at. I try to remember that the same way I try to remember that my 6 year old has her limitations too, and when she messes up, it's usually a failure of ability, not effort or intention. |
In the second point, if case OP is dealing a chronic white lies or lies, I have lived that. Lie about know which direction to go. Lies about how to hang a 40 pound mirror. Lies about the XYZ working and when it stopped working Lies about having done something already - then scrambles to do it. If OPs mom is just saying little conversational things like it’s cloudy or I made some cookies, BFD. She’s prob just confusing the days. If she says yes I went to my doctor check up this year and she actually didn’t and is recollecting two years ago appt, that’s different. |
It seems like a deliberate lie. So something else is driving that. It’s not like you forgot you made cookies last month and these must be them! |
No one said it wasn’t a deliberate lie, it just…doesn’t matter. Like is PP similarly perplexed why people lie about how much they weigh? |
Homemade desserts also can suck and be loaded with sugar. If someone knows they can’t cook, I’ll take the one from the bakery and smile politely when they pass it off as their own. |
I once went over and set up new phones throughout my mom’s house. Landline phones. It was a four pack from Costco. She only needed three, so one handset was leftover.
Fast forward to a couple weeks ago, she claims she has searched everywhere in her house for that and can’t find it, but oh yeah, I remember that YOU took it home with you that day. However, I remember boxing it up and her placing it in a closet. After that, no clue where it went. I have NO CLUE what she gained from telling me she searched high and low while simultaneously “knowing” she didn’t have it because I took it. I think someone is on to something when they say it’s blaming to make themselves feel better about forgetting. |
I think culturally supporting lying in any form is an issue of a bigger societal challenge. Normalizing it can be toxic and damaging. Not saying yell at someone, but being a truth teller is what keeps our fabric woven and not frayed. |
Most people make homemade desserts so they can cut out the sugars.
But some overly sweet recipes and desserts are terrible no matter what |
True. |
Conversation fillers. Glad it’s minor, irrelevant things. |
I can’t take this response seriously. Her mom said she made a dessert that she didn’t make. Ffs. |