I Support Adrian Fenty For DC Mayor Because

Anonymous
Dorrie wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think we should let the words speak for themselves, and let the sentences as they were stated be the best evidence of their contents.

To state that a "direct" reading of these words should be interpreted to mean that under Gray, no Wards will be wanting, for all will be swell is JUST the MOST absurdest nonsense. A straw man argument. Like saying the world is flat. Or red is blue. Or a square is a circle. (Who do I sound like now?)

I think the temptation to reinterpret his words is because the originally-reported statement seems like political suicide when made at a Ward 3 gathering. It's such an alienating thing to say, I would also have expected it to get some actual press, in the Northwest Current if not in the WaPo.

12:49, were you at this straw poll event? If so, I'm inclined to give your memory the same weight that I'm giving 12:45's--which adds up to, maybe Gray said something that alienated a ton of people but that wasn't reported, or maybe he was extremely clumsy in an attempt to describe plans to provide more services to other wards.


No. Goose was not at that meeting. If he had been, even he would have figured out by now to say so.

I'm sorry you're disappointed that the statement did not get any press. No one's statements at that meeting were reported, and many candidates said much more offensive things, but you probably won't trust my accuracy as to those, either. Only the result of the poll seems to have been reported.

And Goose, should you now choose to pretend that you were at the meeting, please do be prepared to answer many questions fro
me which, should you answer them correctly, will corroborate that you were there. But you're not going to say you were there when you weren't, are you?
Anonymous
I apologize. 12:49 and 12:45 are actually the same person. I know that, because that person is me. I wanted to be as accurate as possible, so I amended my previous statement. So, to put it all together, here is the actual quote of what Gray said (you had to actually be there to hear the sarcasm in his voice):

I know you all are concerned about your home values, and your childrens' education. And I'm not saying I'm against any of that. I'm not saying that I'm going to take away from any of that. But there are other Wards that need more help. So don't expect to see anymore of that once I am elected Mayor.


That's what he said. There's no spin there. That's what he said. Now, I read that as divisive. Goose says that's "spin", and would like you to interpret it to mean that, once Gray is elected, DC will become a utopia in which no Wards will be wanting.

To which I say again: Let the words speak for themselves, and the sentences be the best evidence of their contents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You must be a horrible fisherman, because your bait simply won't get any bites. Troll.


You just bit, limp dick. When one engages someone to tell them they're not engaging them, they're only engaging them further.


I'm not getting baited by your nonsense arguments. But I'll tell you how dumb you are all day long. Why would I give that up?


You just bit again, limp dick. I bait, and you bite. You're my bitch. Which is kind of cool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:"I know you all are concerned with your home values, and with your childrens' education. And I'm not saying I'm against any of that; I'm not saying I'm going to take away from any of that. But don't expect any more of that once I become Mayor."

-vs-

"I know you all are concerned with your home values, and with your childrens' education. And I'm not saying I'm against any of that; I'm not saying I'm going to take away from any of that. But I think other Wards need more help. So don't expect any more of that once I become Mayor."

Those are different quotes with different meanings. And they are not the clearest declarative statements of his policy, though they certainly give insight. So, there are lots of ways it can be interpreted. Because of that, it's important that we put this quote in context with the other statements and positions Gray has put out there regarding this issue. To put so much emphasis on an ultimately ambiguous statement, to me, is overreacting.


Actually, those are not different statements. They are the same statement, with one sentence initially omitted (by me), which I amended for accuracy. It would be nice to pretend that there were two different people here arguing that two different things were said, but there is actually only one, who was honest enough to amend the quotation for complete accuracy.

And yes, it would be nice to put this statement into other positions and statements that Gray is making. Only he isn't making any. His policies are completely amorphous, which is why I likened him to a limp dick. All he does is show up and essentially say, "You should vote for me because I am not Fenty."
Anonymous
I have not been part of the recent colloquy, but I have been reading it. One bit of information seems to be lacking: What preceded the quote? The tone was perceived (by two listeners, at least) as sarcastic, but sometimes the tone is indicative of the speaker's reaction to a questioner. For example, if Gray felt some well-to-do citizen was overly concerned about his or her perks than about the welfare of less advantaged citizens, he may have succumbed to the temptation to be a bit snippy in his response. Not a good idea for a campaigning politician, but a human thing to do. As evidence of this tendency, I need only look at the responses on this thread, which have gone a lot further than sarcasm in replies to our friend's desire to keep her tax money in Ward 3.
Anonymous
A question from a moderator preceded the quoted statement. I can't tell you what the question was, because the moderator had such a soft voice that I couldn't hear all of the questions. It didn't really matter; from what I could tell the candidates didn't answer any
of the moderator's questions, anyway. They used their time to talk about whatever they want to talk about.

I can assure you that Gray was not responding to any question or remark from a Ward 3 resident. None of us were permitted to speak.
Anonymous
But let's get back to the topic of this thread: Adrian Fenty runs 9 miles every morning, and sometimes swims at night. He has boundless, youthful energy, and that's the kind of energy I like to see in my Mayor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You must be a horrible fisherman, because your bait simply won't get any bites. Troll.


You just bit, limp dick. When one engages someone to tell them they're not engaging them, they're only engaging them further.


I'm not getting baited by your nonsense arguments. But I'll tell you how dumb you are all day long. Why would I give that up?


You just bit again, limp dick. I bait, and you bite. You're my bitch. Which is kind of cool.


It takes a small, small person to go online and seek people to make his/her bitch. You're seeking some sort of satisfaction, either for me to engage your nonsense politics or to play your 'race to the bottom' approach to debate. Not going to work. Apparently I'm a 'limp dick' because I don't get hard-ons from an online forum. I guess I'll take that charge, because I'd rather be that than the little one with the Napoleon complex trying to prove how big and bad he/she is by engaging in trolling habits. Wamp wamp, fail again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"I know you all are concerned with your home values, and with your childrens' education. And I'm not saying I'm against any of that; I'm not saying I'm going to take away from any of that. But don't expect any more of that once I become Mayor."

-vs-

"I know you all are concerned with your home values, and with your childrens' education. And I'm not saying I'm against any of that; I'm not saying I'm going to take away from any of that. But I think other Wards need more help. So don't expect any more of that once I become Mayor."

Those are different quotes with different meanings. And they are not the clearest declarative statements of his policy, though they certainly give insight. So, there are lots of ways it can be interpreted. Because of that, it's important that we put this quote in context with the other statements and positions Gray has put out there regarding this issue. To put so much emphasis on an ultimately ambiguous statement, to me, is overreacting.


Actually, those are not different statements. They are the same statement, with one sentence initially omitted (by me), which I amended for accuracy. It would be nice to pretend that there were two different people here arguing that two different things were said, but there is actually only one, who was honest enough to amend the quotation for complete accuracy.

And yes, it would be nice to put this statement into other positions and statements that Gray is making. Only he isn't making any. His policies are completely amorphous, which is why I likened him to a limp dick. All he does is show up and essentially say, "You should vote for me because I am not Fenty."


They are different statements in the sense that the absence of that phrase potentially changes the meaning. Some may feel it does, some may feel it doesn't. I'm not taking anything away from folks who saw/heard Gray that night and want to draw conclusions based on that statement. But to act as if that statement alone is a declarative statement as to how he will approach governing as a whole is simply disingenuous. It is certainly an important statement worth factoring in and has weight, but it is not the end-all, be-all of his candidacy as some are making it out to be.

And yes, I do think it's worth noting that the statement lacks context (what was said before? what followed it? any video/audio that reflect tone/delivery?). It doesn't invalidate it, but it makes it harder for those who weren't there (all but about 350 folks) to put a lot of faith into.
Anonymous
I'm support Vince Gray because:

1) He will take more of my tax dollars away from me and my children and give t oother people because I don't deserve a better school, a new park for my kids to play in or better services.

2) Certain people have been "left out" and it is up to the mayor and government to "fix that" by radical redistribution regardless of the fact that it may not be anyone's "fault".

3) The city is going in the wrong direction, even though crime is down, scores are up, real estate is fairing better than the rest of the world etc.

4) The city government is shrinking too fast and thus people are losing their "jobs". After all govt is there hire people who can't find other jobs, and after all it doesnt matter if it gets more efficient these people just needs to be on the city's payroll.

5) I support Gray because DC taxes are too low.

And on and on.
Anonymous
I love you!! Would you like to have a drink, girlfriend?
Anonymous
It must be sad to live such a small, small life. Is it REALLY that unfulfilled? Now I just pity you. I'll stop picking on you. I'm sorry. Feel better soon. Watch some HGTV or something. You'll perk up!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You must be a horrible fisherman, because your bait simply won't get any bites. Troll.


You just bit, limp dick. When one engages someone to tell them they're not engaging them, they're only engaging them further.


I'm not getting baited by your nonsense arguments. But I'll tell you how dumb you are all day long. Why would I give that up?


You just bit again, limp dick. I bait, and you bite. You're my bitch. Which is kind of cool.


It takes a small, small person to go online and seek people to make his/her bitch. You're seeking some sort of satisfaction, either for me to engage your nonsense politics or to play your 'race to the bottom' approach to debate. Not going to work. Apparently I'm a 'limp dick' because I don't get hard-ons from an online forum. I guess I'll take that charge, because I'd rather be that than the little one with the Napoleon complex trying to prove how big and bad he/she is by engaging in trolling habits. Wamp wamp, fail again.


I didn't come on here looking for a bitch. You found me and came bounding towards me. Apparently you have no home, so it seems as though I'm stuck with a girly-dog named Goose. Now go fetch, bring it back, and drop it. Good boy -- er -- I mean girl.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It must be sad to live such a small, small life. Is it REALLY that unfulfilled? Now I just pity you. I'll stop picking on you. I'm sorry. Feel better soon. Watch some HGTV or something. You'll perk up!


To whom are you addressing this missive? If it's me, thank you. I been suffering from a nasty cold this weekend, and haven't been able to do much at all except sit in bed and type on my Ipod. It hasn't been fulfilling, and there's much I would have preferred to do. I appreciate your wishes for my speedy recovery.

If your remarks were aimed at someone else, I'll let them respond to you as they see fit.
Anonymous
It was aimed at the poster one above you, who apparently enjoys engaging in misogyny, among other nonsensical viewpoints on life.
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