Math and ELA placements in 4th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.

Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.

Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?

DO and not at all - in our school the cutoff is around the 80th percentile. And some schools offer ELC to all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.

Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?

DO and not at all - in our school the cutoff is around the 80th percentile. And some schools offer ELC to all.

Oops meant DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think 95th percentile is generally a good gauge of being admitted into ELC and CM. Anything below, it would depend on the individual home school (space available, local norms). But check with your school about their specific criteria.

Do you think that 94 or 93 is definitely a no for ELC or CM?

DO and not at all - in our school the cutoff is around the 80th percentile. And some schools offer ELC to all.

This is a problem. Not that ELC is offered to all at some schools, but that it isn't offered to all at others (or that they err on the side of exclusion instead of inclusion when making their cuts/cohorts).

[Anonymous]

OP here- found out my DC math placement. He got CM, Spring MAP was 222. Hopefully if will help other parents figure this out.

[Anonymous]

My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

[Anonymous]

My DC was placed in ELC, was NOT in the CES pool. Spring MAP R was 222.

[Anonymous]

My daughter got CM, winter MAP was 216.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.

205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.

205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…

That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.

205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…

That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is

DP. The letter we received about CM says they used various data points, not just MAP. So it’s probably not the dealbreaker or maker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.

205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…

That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is

DP. The letter we received about CM says they used various data points, not just MAP. So it’s probably not the dealbreaker or maker.

That’s what they say but it seems that map test is the major data point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC was placed in CM - winter MAP was 205 (haven’t gotten spring yet).

So it seems 75th percentile is the cut off?

My sense is schools have some leeway. If, say, the school has 15 kids who fit the traditional 85th percentile cut-off, they can choose 10/12 more who may show various other markers for success in CM and add them to the class. My son is wrapping up 5/6 and there were definitely kids added because of "parental advocacy" throughout the years, so I don't think the county controls this as much as they'd like to convey.

205 poster - no advocacy on our part, and I was surprised DS made it in. One factor might have been that the winter MAP was the lowest percentile-wise he had done so far (extenuating circumstances the week of the test might have contributed to that), and he seems to grasp the concepts quickly (but makes sloppy mistakes because he rushes thru his work). Likely enough kids at his school to fill a class based on the 85th percentile, but who knows…

That is true. We can guess but no one knows what the cutoff is

DP. The letter we received about CM says they used various data points, not just MAP. So it’s probably not the dealbreaker or maker.

Was the letter from the school or central MCPS?