Religious people

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see far more respect between religious people of various faith backgrounds than I do from non-religious people toward religious people.

As part of my kids' confirmation classes, they visited a number of worship services of different faiths and traditions, as part of better understanding their own.

That's a good thing. Would have been better if the kids were also taught to respect people who do not practice a religion.

Five posts later and you have moved the goal posts.

Don't know what you mean. could you explain?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see far more respect between religious people of various faith backgrounds than I do from non-religious people toward religious people.

Do you see similar respect from religious people for agnostics and atheists?

This is my question too. People, in the US, at least, are taught that they should respect people with different religious beliefs, but they are not taught to respect people who do not have a religion.

How so?

Have you ever heard of a teaching that directs religious people to be kind to and understanding of people who don't believe in God? I haven't.

I don't know of a teaching that directs people to be kind to people of different religions either, but at least in the US, we pay lip service to the idea.

Often in public ceremonies there will be clergy from a few different religions there, all making some sort of blessing from their tradition, but I've never seen a humanist officiant -- and they do exist - they often do weddings for non-religious couples.

Also, candidates for President basically have to have some type of faith (or pretend to), or they would be unelectable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see far more respect between religious people of various faith backgrounds than I do from non-religious people toward religious people.

Do you see similar respect from religious people for agnostics and atheists?

This is my question too. People, in the US, at least, are taught that they should respect people with different religious beliefs, but they are not taught to respect people who do not have a religion.

How so?

Have you ever heard of a teaching that directs religious people to be kind to and understanding of people who don't believe in God? I haven't.

I don't know of a teaching that directs people to be kind to people of different religions either, but at least in the US, we pay lip service to the idea.

Often in public ceremonies there will be clergy from a few different religions there, all making some sort of blessing from their tradition, but I've never seen a humanist officiant -- and they do exist - they often do weddings for non-religious couples.

Also, candidates for President basically have to have some type of faith (or pretend to), or they would be unelectable.

Right - as was the case with Obama, as he made pretty clear in his pre-election book.

I recall at his inauguration, I cheered when he said something like "...to people of faith and people of no faith."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

[Anonymous]

Control power money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

oops "brief system" should be "belief system"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

DP

OK that (position that atheism is not a belief system) is the position of the Atheist International Allaince but I believe the truth is much more nuanced and non black and white. For the record, I am not proselytizing for any particular belief system although I am religious.

In a literal sense your contention that has been oft repeated in this forum may be true -
“Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.” (Wikipedia)

But atheism is an ideology and does guide non believers in understanding reality …
“What counts as a belief system?
A belief system is an ideology or set of principles that helps us to interpret our everyday reality.“
(https://study.com/academy/lesson/belief-systems-definition-types-quiz.html)


This article captures some of the nuances from an atheist’s perspective
Faith of the faithless: Is atheism just another religion?
The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world. The truth is more complex than you might imagine
By Graham Lawton

11 April 2017

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23431212-800-faith-of-the-faithless-is-atheism-just-another-religion/




That said, we need to find ways to peacefully live together and allow safe spaces for different belief systems/ non belief systems - as long as they do not perpetuate hate or harm to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

DP

OK that (position that atheism is not a belief system) is the position of the Atheist International Allaince but I believe the truth is much more nuanced and non black and white. For the record, I am not proselytizing for any particular belief system although I am religious.

In a literal sense your contention that has been oft repeated in this forum may be true -
“Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.” (Wikipedia)

But atheism is an ideology and does guide non believers in understanding reality …
“What counts as a belief system?
A belief system is an ideology or set of principles that helps us to interpret our everyday reality.“
(https://study.com/academy/lesson/belief-systems-definition-types-quiz.html)


This article captures some of the nuances from an atheist’s perspective
Faith of the faithless: Is atheism just another religion?
The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world. The truth is more complex than you might imagine
By Graham Lawton

11 April 2017

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23431212-800-faith-of-the-faithless-is-atheism-just-another-religion/


That said, we need to find ways to peacefully live together and allow safe spaces for different belief systems/ non belief systems - as long as they do not perpetuate hate or harm to others.

Haven't read it yet (intend to) but this quote sticks out to me: "The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world."

Atheism does not claim to be "a better way to run the world." At most, I think that individual atheists have said that the world would be better off without religion. Seems like the author is grasping at straws, trying to make atheists admit, or trying to demonstrate, that atheists want to run the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

DP

OK that (position that atheism is not a belief system) is the position of the Atheist International Allaince but I believe the truth is much more nuanced and non black and white. For the record, I am not proselytizing for any particular belief system although I am religious.

In a literal sense your contention that has been oft repeated in this forum may be true -
“Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.” (Wikipedia)

But atheism is an ideology and does guide non believers in understanding reality …
“What counts as a belief system?
A belief system is an ideology or set of principles that helps us to interpret our everyday reality.“
(https://study.com/academy/lesson/belief-systems-definition-types-quiz.html)


This article captures some of the nuances from an atheist’s perspective
Faith of the faithless: Is atheism just another religion?
The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world. The truth is more complex than you might imagine
By Graham Lawton

11 April 2017

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23431212-800-faith-of-the-faithless-is-atheism-just-another-religion/


That said, we need to find ways to peacefully live together and allow safe spaces for different belief systems/ non belief systems - as long as they do not perpetuate hate or harm to others.

Haven't read it yet (intend to) but this quote sticks out to me: "The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world."

Atheism does not claim to be "a better way to run the world." At most, I think that individual atheists have said that the world would be better off without religion. Seems like the author is grasping at straws, trying to make atheists admit, or trying to demonstrate, that atheists want to run the world.

Yes i only posted the nuances form an atheist perspective -
The main point is that it is not black and white.

I don’t wish to convert anyone to any belief system or lack thereof. However there are definitely do appear to be some elements of belief systems within atheism.

The main point to Mr is that we live honestly and responsibly according to what makes the most sense to each of us - not just intellectually but as whole people. We are all complex beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

DP

OK that (position that atheism is not a belief system) is the position of the Atheist International Allaince but I believe the truth is much more nuanced and non black and white. For the record, I am not proselytizing for any particular belief system although I am religious.

In a literal sense your contention that has been oft repeated in this forum may be true -
“Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.” (Wikipedia)

But atheism is an ideology and does guide non believers in understanding reality …
“What counts as a belief system?
A belief system is an ideology or set of principles that helps us to interpret our everyday reality.“
(https://study.com/academy/lesson/belief-systems-definition-types-quiz.html)


This article captures some of the nuances from an atheist’s perspective
Faith of the faithless: Is atheism just another religion?
The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world. The truth is more complex than you might imagine
By Graham Lawton

11 April 2017

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23431212-800-faith-of-the-faithless-is-atheism-just-another-religion/


That said, we need to find ways to peacefully live together and allow safe spaces for different belief systems/ non belief systems - as long as they do not perpetuate hate or harm to others.

Haven't read it yet (intend to) but this quote sticks out to me: "The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world."

Atheism does not claim to be "a better way to run the world." At most, I think that individual atheists have said that the world would be better off without religion. Seems like the author is grasping at straws, trying to make atheists admit, or trying to demonstrate, that atheists want to run the world.

The first link leads to one quote. The second leads to an article that requires a temporary, free subscription to read in its entirety. I chose to not subscribe. Perhaps pp could post more here. Meanwhile, I'd say that this is one persona's opinion, to which he is entitled, of course, but no reason to assume it's correct or indicates how all atheists think.

I remember years ago, a well-known atheist (don't recall who) said something like "We are a gentle people". My reaction was that we (i.e., atheists) are not a people at all and not all of us are gentle. I think he meant to say that atheists are not a threat to society (as some religions have been) and that people should not fear atheists as a group. That's what I think, anyhow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

DP

OK that (position that atheism is not a belief system) is the position of the Atheist International Allaince but I believe the truth is much more nuanced and non black and white. For the record, I am not proselytizing for any particular belief system although I am religious.

In a literal sense your contention that has been oft repeated in this forum may be true -
“Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.” (Wikipedia)

But atheism is an ideology and does guide non believers in understanding reality …
“What counts as a belief system?
A belief system is an ideology or set of principles that helps us to interpret our everyday reality.“
(https://study.com/academy/lesson/belief-systems-definition-types-quiz.html)


This article captures some of the nuances from an atheist’s perspective
Faith of the faithless: Is atheism just another religion?
The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world. The truth is more complex than you might imagine
By Graham Lawton

11 April 2017

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23431212-800-faith-of-the-faithless-is-atheism-just-another-religion/


That said, we need to find ways to peacefully live together and allow safe spaces for different belief systems/ non belief systems - as long as they do not perpetuate hate or harm to others.

Haven't read it yet (intend to) but this quote sticks out to me: "The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world."

Atheism does not claim to be "a better way to run the world." At most, I think that individual atheists have said that the world would be better off without religion. Seems like the author is grasping at straws, trying to make atheists admit, or trying to demonstrate, that atheists want to run the world.

Yes i only posted the nuances form an atheist perspective -
The main point is that it is not black and white.

I don’t wish to convert anyone to any belief system or lack thereof. However there are definitely do appear to be some elements of belief systems within atheism.

The main point to Mr is that we live honestly and responsibly according to what makes the most sense to each of us - not just intellectually but as whole people. We are all complex beings.

There may be individual atheists who have a belief system, but atheism itself is simply not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Probably not all Catholics believe exactly the same things, though Catholicism IS a belief system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only on DCUM is there such hate for people who may or may not be spiritual and do not belong to a particular faith community.

In the real world, no one cares.

Here, there are a couple of particularly vicious anti-atheist trolls, just as there are a couple of vicious anti-Catholic trolls and some generally anti-religion trolls.

Trolls, your mistake is thinking that one example of a different belief system (atheism is also a belief system) means everyone of that community is the same way.

Also:

We are surrounded by belief systems. Collectively in the US, for example, most of us believe in democracy. Yet it is an entirely artificial construct, we need to all believe in it for it to work. Not like gravity: if you denied gravity, you'd still be controlled by it. But if you cease to believe in god/gods, or capitalism, or any of the constructs humankind has created... you can still live as homo sapiens somewhere, governed by the laws of nature.

So this stupid fight that some trolls try to create, atheism versus religion, is entirely ridiculous. These are ALL artificial constructs anyway. You are all in your respective corners, fighting about something made-up.

Atheism is not a belief system, just as asymptomatic is not a disease.

Also the artificial constructs, as you call them, of atheism and religion, cause a lot of trouble, irrespective of the fact that they are artificial.

I don't think anyone but you called religion and atheism "artificial constructs". Religion, broadly speaking, is a brief system. Atheism is not a belief system. It is the lack of a belief system; the lack of theism.

DP

OK that (position that atheism is not a belief system) is the position of the Atheist International Allaince but I believe the truth is much more nuanced and non black and white. For the record, I am not proselytizing for any particular belief system although I am religious.

In a literal sense your contention that has been oft repeated in this forum may be true -
“Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.” (Wikipedia)

But atheism is an ideology and does guide non believers in understanding reality …
“What counts as a belief system?
A belief system is an ideology or set of principles that helps us to interpret our everyday reality.“
(https://study.com/academy/lesson/belief-systems-definition-types-quiz.html)


This article captures some of the nuances from an atheist’s perspective
Faith of the faithless: Is atheism just another religion?
The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world. The truth is more complex than you might imagine
By Graham Lawton

11 April 2017

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23431212-800-faith-of-the-faithless-is-atheism-just-another-religion/


That said, we need to find ways to peacefully live together and allow safe spaces for different belief systems/ non belief systems - as long as they do not perpetuate hate or harm to others.

Haven't read it yet (intend to) but this quote sticks out to me: "The taunt that atheism is religious thinking in disguise undermines its claim to be a better way to run the world."

Atheism does not claim to be "a better way to run the world." At most, I think that individual atheists have said that the world would be better off without religion. Seems like the author is grasping at straws, trying to make atheists admit, or trying to demonstrate, that atheists want to run the world.

Yes i only posted the nuances form an atheist perspective -
The main point is that it is not black and white.

I don’t wish to convert anyone to any belief system or lack thereof. However there are definitely do appear to be some elements of belief systems within atheism.

The main point to ME is that we live honestly and responsibly according to what makes the most sense to each of us - not just intellectually but as whole people. We are all complex beings.

As a formerly religious atheist, I completely agree with this. It calls for honesty and responsibility, which are possible with or without religion.

[Anonymous]

Another thread about atheism, how many are needed, honestly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another thread about atheism, how many are needed, honestly?

Perhaps you shouldn't comment on such threads, which only keeps them going. You could start a thread about looking for a church in your neighborhood, or something, instead.

As for your question, none are needed. No threads about anything are needed. All threads here are voluntary.