Need to opt child out of MCAP

[Anonymous]

Below is what MSDE replied when I asked the state why MCPS wasn’t giving out the reports. Based on the info, I was able to get a copy of my child’s — if you want yours, you should email the person below and say that MSDE has said that MCPS can provide an electronic copy, and that MCPS has had access since January.

From MSDE:

“Thank you for your inquiry regarding the scores from the Spring 2022 MCAP assessments. The individual student reports (ISRs) were accessible to the districts electronically at the end of January and paper copies of ISRs will delivered to schools in early March. The school will then have 30 days to share the reports with parents/guardians. Please contact your local accountability coordinator, Donna Blaney at [e-mail]. Ms. Blaney will be able to help you obtain the information you are requesting.
As you may know Maryland has implemented a new Maryland Comprehensive Assessment Program (MCAP) which was delayed due to the pandemic. In spring 2022, the state administered new math and English language arts assessments in which your child participated. For a new assessment, each state is federally required to go through a standard setting process, which Maryland completed with Maryland educators, and to work with psychometricians to ensure the assessments are valid and reliable. This process does take quite a bit of time. Please know that although the results of the spring 2022 assessments are delayed, results for future administrations will be provided in a timelier manner.
Please let us know if you have any additional questions.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

We were told the kids would go to a different room.

[Anonymous]

I am an elementary school teacher in MCPS and while it is INCREDIBLY frustrating to have to go through this exercise each year, we have no choice. If you tell your child to refuse, what else do you want them to do? There isn't staff available to instruct them in grade-level material while you opt them out (nor would that be equitable to other kids). It's all hands on deck for this stuff. They could probably sit in the office. I get that you are frustrated because I am as well. My suggestion to you would be to tell your child to use it as an opportunity to practice test-taking skills and if they get to a question they don't know how to answer to guess.

It's a little bit of a life lesson. We all have to just suck it up and do some things in life we don't really want to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

Are you ok? And if you are a teacher, what are you doing? This is uncalled for. I have students who have done this and needed to. Please do not tell me how things are done at my job. I am trying to help the OP. OP. It will be fine if your child refuses. It's just a test. Everyone will move on. It's ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

Are you ok? And if you are a teacher, what are you doing? This is uncalled for. I have students who have done this and needed to. Please do not tell me how things are done at my job. I am trying to help the OP. OP. It will be fine if your child refuses. It's just a test. Everyone will move on. It's ok.

DP, but I'm a teacher as well and you're straight up lying right now. It's not something that is just taken lightly and it is incredibly disruptive for the rest of the class. Additionally, other students (especially at the elementary level) don't understand why one student can just refuse while they have to take the test. Are YOU okay? If you really wanted to help the OP, you'd provide them with more reasonable advice: If parents want to opt-out, send a note to the principal. Done. Do not have your student just refuse to take the test. It definitely affects the testing environment and the students around them in a negative way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

Are you ok? And if you are a teacher, what are you doing? This is uncalled for. I have students who have done this and needed to. Please do not tell me how things are done at my job. I am trying to help the OP. OP. It will be fine if your child refuses. It's just a test. Everyone will move on. It's ok.

DP, but I'm a teacher as well and you're straight up lying right now. It's not something that is just taken lightly and it is incredibly disruptive for the rest of the class. Additionally, other students (especially at the elementary level) don't understand why one student can just refuse while they have to take the test. Are YOU okay? If you really wanted to help the OP, you'd provide them with more reasonable advice: If parents want to opt-out, send a note to the principal. Done. Do not have your student just refuse to take the test. It definitely affects the testing environment and the students around them in a negative way.

I am not lying. I'm sorry you aren't understanding or knowledgeable enough to know that this might come up once or twice. Learn how to deal with it. It never ever has been an issue for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

Are you ok? And if you are a teacher, what are you doing? This is uncalled for. I have students who have done this and needed to. Please do not tell me how things are done at my job. I am trying to help the OP. OP. It will be fine if your child refuses. It's just a test. Everyone will move on. It's ok.

DP, but I'm a teacher as well and you're straight up lying right now. It's not something that is just taken lightly and it is incredibly disruptive for the rest of the class. Additionally, other students (especially at the elementary level) don't understand why one student can just refuse while they have to take the test. Are YOU okay? If you really wanted to help the OP, you'd provide them with more reasonable advice: If parents want to opt-out, send a note to the principal. Done. Do not have your student just refuse to take the test. It definitely affects the testing environment and the students around them in a negative way.

I am not lying. I'm sorry you aren't understanding or knowledgeable enough to know that this might come up once or twice. Learn how to deal with it. It never ever has been an issue for me.

Lol, you think it takes skills or a brain to understand this comes up? Obviously it comes up. Every teacher has dealt with it and understands why it's absolutely a terrible idea. The point is it shouldn't be encouraged just for the sheer optics of it when no one at MDSE would bat an eye at it. There are practical options for opting-out and the OP should do it responsibly, not as a show. You sound like a real clown. I hope you are not ever my kid's teacher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

Are you ok? And if you are a teacher, what are you doing? This is uncalled for. I have students who have done this and needed to. Please do not tell me how things are done at my job. I am trying to help the OP. OP. It will be fine if your child refuses. It's just a test. Everyone will move on. It's ok.

DP, but I'm a teacher as well and you're straight up lying right now. It's not something that is just taken lightly and it is incredibly disruptive for the rest of the class. Additionally, other students (especially at the elementary level) don't understand why one student can just refuse while they have to take the test. Are YOU okay? If you really wanted to help the OP, you'd provide them with more reasonable advice: If parents want to opt-out, send a note to the principal. Done. Do not have your student just refuse to take the test. It definitely affects the testing environment and the students around them in a negative way.

I am not lying. I'm sorry you aren't understanding or knowledgeable enough to know that this might come up once or twice. Learn how to deal with it. It never ever has been an issue for me.

Lol, you think it takes skills or a brain to understand this comes up? Obviously it comes up. Every teacher has dealt with it and understands why it's absolutely a terrible idea. The point is it shouldn't be encouraged just for the sheer optics of it when no one at MDSE would bat an eye at it. There are practical options for opting-out and the OP should do it responsibly, not as a show. You sound like a real clown. I hope you are not ever my kid's teacher.

*MSDE and to be clear, I wasn't the poster you were replying to. Just yet another educator who is really skeptical you are who you say you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least have them stage it correctly if they walk out, they'll just have to sit for the test when they get back. The correct, successful way to opt out is to sit for the test and refuse to take it. Close the Chromebook and refuse. The staff fill out a form saying the student refused the test. parents can't opt them out or refuse for them. The students themselves have to sit for the timed test session and refuse to participate.

Cool! Way to stress out the teachers on already super stressful days just so you can make a “point” that the state won’t ever listen to in the first place. MCAP is not going away anytime soon and if it is, it’ll just be replaced by another test, but glad you got your kid to make a scene in the classroom? The kids are already nervous and anxious about testing as it is without some stupid stunt like this. Grow up.

It's actually not dramatic to do this. I"m a teacher and I would say NO PROBLEM if a student refused to test. Testing is an incredible burden and we miss very valuable instructional time that we do not get back. They close their Chromebook, I take the Chromebook back if it's not theirs, and they sit and doodle or relax until the rest of the room is done. End of story. No big deal.

Sure you are. *massive eyeroll* It's actually a really big deal as I've had this happen before. Or if you are, you've clearly never dealt with this.

Are you ok? And if you are a teacher, what are you doing? This is uncalled for. I have students who have done this and needed to. Please do not tell me how things are done at my job. I am trying to help the OP. OP. It will be fine if your child refuses. It's just a test. Everyone will move on. It's ok.

DP, but I'm a teacher as well and you're straight up lying right now. It's not something that is just taken lightly and it is incredibly disruptive for the rest of the class. Additionally, other students (especially at the elementary level) don't understand why one student can just refuse while they have to take the test. Are YOU okay? If you really wanted to help the OP, you'd provide them with more reasonable advice: If parents want to opt-out, send a note to the principal. Done. Do not have your student just refuse to take the test. It definitely affects the testing environment and the students around them in a negative way.

Yeah I would imagine if your kid refused to take the test that a teacher wouldn't be badgering them to try to and that's stressful

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Below is what MSDE replied when I asked the state why MCPS wasn’t giving out the reports. Based on the info, I was able to get a copy of my child’s — if you want yours, you should email the person below and say that MSDE has said that MCPS can provide an electronic copy, and that MCPS has had access since January.

From MSDE:

“Thank you for your inquiry regarding the scores from the Spring 2022 MCAP assessments. The individual student reports (ISRs) were accessible to the districts electronically at the end of January and paper copies of ISRs will delivered to schools in early March. The school will then have 30 days to share the reports with parents/guardians. Please contact your local accountability coordinator, Donna Blaney at [e-mail]. Ms. Blaney will be able to help you obtain the information you are requesting.
As you may know Maryland has implemented a new Maryland Comprehensive Assessment Program (MCAP) which was delayed due to the pandemic. In spring 2022, the state administered new math and English language arts assessments in which your child participated. For a new assessment, each state is federally required to go through a standard setting process, which Maryland completed with Maryland educators, and to work with psychometricians to ensure the assessments are valid and reliable. This process does take quite a bit of time. Please know that although the results of the spring 2022 assessments are delayed, results for future administrations will be provided in a timelier manner.
Please let us know if you have any additional questions.”

Isn't there already another thread on this topic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Below is what MSDE replied when I asked the state why MCPS wasn’t giving out the reports. Based on the info, I was able to get a copy of my child’s — if you want yours, you should email the person below and say that MSDE has said that MCPS can provide an electronic copy, and that MCPS has had access since January.

From MSDE:

“Thank you for your inquiry regarding the scores from the Spring 2022 MCAP assessments. The individual student reports (ISRs) were accessible to the districts electronically at the end of January and paper copies of ISRs will delivered to schools in early March. The school will then have 30 days to share the reports with parents/guardians. Please contact your local accountability coordinator, Donna Blaney at [e-mail]. Ms. Blaney will be able to help you obtain the information you are requesting.
As you may know Maryland has implemented a new Maryland Comprehensive Assessment Program (MCAP) which was delayed due to the pandemic. In spring 2022, the state administered new math and English language arts assessments in which your child participated. For a new assessment, each state is federally required to go through a standard setting process, which Maryland completed with Maryland educators, and to work with psychometricians to ensure the assessments are valid and reliable. This process does take quite a bit of time. Please know that although the results of the spring 2022 assessments are delayed, results for future administrations will be provided in a timelier manner.
Please let us know if you have any additional questions.”

Isn't there already another thread on this topic?

Well, in this thread they want to opt their kid out of MCAP because they're mad they didn't get their scores from the state or something.

[jsteele]

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/75/1116115.page