Atheist/Agnostic ?

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Anonymous wrote:My brother was agnostic, then atheist. He got into a terrible motorcycle accident. The woman who hit him had a heart attack while driving and died, he barely survived. He had a very long and difficult recovery, even had to get around in a wheelchair for a time.

He surprisingly became a Christian while recovering from that awful tragedy.

Head injury?

No, his legs were horribly broken. His pelvis was smashed. They were very close to amputating his left leg. His doctors thought he may never walk again.

It’s cool you thought to make fun of his accident though. You don’t seem to exhibit the kindness you claim is lacking in Christians.

When have I commented on Christian kindness?

So you are happy to be a person who thinks life threatening accidents are jokes.

Everyone here constantly points out how mean spirited and rude Christians are to people who are not their religion.

Why do you think a car accident in which a woman died and a young man grievously injured is something to poke fun at?

I haven't commented on "how mean spirited and rude Christians are". Why would you assume that I do?

I'm poking fun at you since your comment was totally off topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all atheists are also agnostic.

I'd say all atheists are also agnostic. Agnostic is not knowing if there's a god and atheist is not believing in a god. I don't KNOW there's no god, and I don't believe that there is a god. I'm an agnostic atheist - like all atheists.

Atheist for short

Then all believers are "agnostic" as well. Because no one "KNOWS".

Technically, maybe, but it's not how believers describe themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I call myself an atheist as it most clearly communicates my lack of belief in a god or gods. For most purposes it’s enough.

I don’t use agnostic b/c there’s an implication that my belief is uncertain or unsure of my belief status. I am certain of my experience and the inquiry I’ve put in on the matter, and I am both certain and comfortable with my lack of belief.

I can’t, however, make the absolute claim that there is no god.

I am agnostic. It does not mean that I myself am unsure of what I believe…it means that I believe that whether or not there is a God is unknowable to humans.

Sounds like you're also an atheist. You can be both. Agnostic does not mean "unsure" or "doubting" -- It means not knowing. Nobody really knows, but many people wholeheartedly believe even though they haven't seen god and have no proof. That's where faith comes in.

I know what I am. I’ve spent a great deal of time reflecting on my beliefs. I think that expressing supreme confidence that God does not exist is exactly the same as expressing supreme confidence that God does exist. We do not know, we will never know, and we are likely not capable of understanding the origins of the universe and why we exist. As you say, that’s where faith comes in, for those who choose to follow a religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Nearly all atheists are also agnostic.

I'd say all atheists are also agnostic. Agnostic is not knowing if there's a god and atheist is not believing in a god. I don't KNOW there's no god, and I don't believe that there is a god. I'm an agnostic atheist - like all atheists.

Atheist for short

Then all believers are "agnostic" as well. Because no one "KNOWS".

Technically, maybe, but it's not how believers describe themselves.

That's not how all atheists describe themselves either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My brother was agnostic, then atheist. He got into a terrible motorcycle accident. The woman who hit him had a heart attack while driving and died, he barely survived. He had a very long and difficult recovery, even had to get around in a wheelchair for a time.

He surprisingly became a Christian while recovering from that awful tragedy.

Head injury?

No, his legs were horribly broken. His pelvis was smashed. They were very close to amputating his left leg. His doctors thought he may never walk again.

It’s cool you thought to make fun of his accident though. You don’t seem to exhibit the kindness you claim is lacking in Christians.

When have I commented on Christian kindness?

So you are happy to be a person who thinks life threatening accidents are jokes.

Everyone here constantly points out how mean spirited and rude Christians are to people who are not their religion.

Why do you think a car accident in which a woman died and a young man grievously injured is something to poke fun at?

I haven't commented on "how mean spirited and rude Christians are". Why would you assume that I do?

I'm poking fun at you since your comment was totally off topic.

So asking me if my brother had a head injury from his accident is poking fun at me? I don’t follow that logic at all.

It sounded like you were asking if he had a head injury and a result of the damage to his head and brain was his conversion to Christianity.

That’s what you meant. Because you are that type of person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I call myself an atheist as it most clearly communicates my lack of belief in a god or gods. For most purposes it’s enough.

I don’t use agnostic b/c there’s an implication that my belief is uncertain or unsure of my belief status. I am certain of my experience and the inquiry I’ve put in on the matter, and I am both certain and comfortable with my lack of belief.

I can’t, however, make the absolute claim that there is no god.

I am agnostic. It does not mean that I myself am unsure of what I believe…it means that I believe that whether or not there is a God is unknowable to humans.

Sounds like you're also an atheist. You can be both. Agnostic does not mean "unsure" or "doubting" -- It means not knowing. Nobody really knows, but many people wholeheartedly believe even though they haven't seen god and have no proof. That's where faith comes in.

I know what I am. I’ve spent a great deal of time reflecting on my beliefs. I think that expressing supreme confidence that God does not exist is exactly the same as expressing supreme confidence that God does exist. We do not know, we will never know, and we are likely not capable of understanding the origins of the universe and why we exist. As you say, that’s where faith comes in, for those who choose to follow a religion.

Same, but I call myself an atheist as it pertains to my non belief in a theistic being. I’m a strongly unconvinced of ghosts and unicorns, but use the term agnostic in describing my belief status.

[Anonymous]

Agnostic is someone who's on the fence.

An Atheist does not believe in any god or gods, or that there is no evidence of any.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My brother was agnostic, then atheist. He got into a terrible motorcycle accident. The woman who hit him had a heart attack while driving and died, he barely survived. He had a very long and difficult recovery, even had to get around in a wheelchair for a time.

He surprisingly became a Christian while recovering from that awful tragedy.

Head injury?

No, his legs were horribly broken. His pelvis was smashed. They were very close to amputating his left leg. His doctors thought he may never walk again.

It’s cool you thought to make fun of his accident though. You don’t seem to exhibit the kindness you claim is lacking in Christians.

When have I commented on Christian kindness?

So you are happy to be a person who thinks life threatening accidents are jokes.

Everyone here constantly points out how mean spirited and rude Christians are to people who are not their religion.

Why do you think a car accident in which a woman died and a young man grievously injured is something to poke fun at?

I haven't commented on "how mean spirited and rude Christians are". Why would you assume that I do?

I'm poking fun at you since your comment was totally off topic.

So asking me if my brother had a head injury from his accident is poking fun at me? I don’t follow that logic at all.

It sounded like you were asking if he had a head injury and a result of the damage to his head and brain was his conversion to Christianity.

That’s what you meant. Because you are that type of person.

sounds like pp is determined to start a fight. Maybe best to ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agnostic is someone who's on the fence.

An Atheist does not believe in any god or gods, or that there is no evidence of any.

Someone who is on the fence is a doubter. Agnostic literally means not knowing. Like asymptomatic - not having symptoms

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I call myself an atheist as it most clearly communicates my lack of belief in a god or gods. For most purposes it’s enough.

I don’t use agnostic b/c there’s an implication that my belief is uncertain or unsure of my belief status. I am certain of my experience and the inquiry I’ve put in on the matter, and I am both certain and comfortable with my lack of belief.

I can’t, however, make the absolute claim that there is no god.

I am agnostic. It does not mean that I myself am unsure of what I believe…it means that I believe that whether or not there is a God is unknowable to humans.

Sounds like you're also an atheist. You can be both. Agnostic does not mean "unsure" or "doubting" -- It means not knowing. Nobody really knows, but many people wholeheartedly believe even though they haven't seen god and have no proof. That's where faith comes in.

I know what I am. I’ve spent a great deal of time reflecting on my beliefs. I think that expressing supreme confidence that God does not exist is exactly the same as expressing supreme confidence that God does exist. We do not know, we will never know, and we are likely not capable of understanding the origins of the universe and why we exist. As you say, that’s where faith comes in, for those who choose to follow a religion.

The term atheist does not express supreme confidence that God does not exist. It expresses not being theistic, i.e., not believing in theos - that's greek for god.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My brother was agnostic, then atheist. He got into a terrible motorcycle accident. The woman who hit him had a heart attack while driving and died, he barely survived. He had a very long and difficult recovery, even had to get around in a wheelchair for a time.

He surprisingly became a Christian while recovering from that awful tragedy.

Head injury?

No, his legs were horribly broken. His pelvis was smashed. They were very close to amputating his left leg. His doctors thought he may never walk again.

It’s cool you thought to make fun of his accident though. You don’t seem to exhibit the kindness you claim is lacking in Christians.

When have I commented on Christian kindness?

So you are happy to be a person who thinks life threatening accidents are jokes.

Everyone here constantly points out how mean spirited and rude Christians are to people who are not their religion.

Why do you think a car accident in which a woman died and a young man grievously injured is something to poke fun at?

I haven't commented on "how mean spirited and rude Christians are". Why would you assume that I do?

I'm poking fun at you since your comment was totally off topic.

So asking me if my brother had a head injury from his accident is poking fun at me? I don’t follow that logic at all.

It sounded like you were asking if he had a head injury and a result of the damage to his head and brain was his conversion to Christianity.

That’s what you meant. Because you are that type of person.

I’m the kind of person who would make a joke because your post was off topic.

Should I just report it next time? Seems extreme.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I call myself an atheist as it most clearly communicates my lack of belief in a god or gods. For most purposes it’s enough.

I don’t use agnostic b/c there’s an implication that my belief is uncertain or unsure of my belief status. I am certain of my experience and the inquiry I’ve put in on the matter, and I am both certain and comfortable with my lack of belief.

I can’t, however, make the absolute claim that there is no god.

I am agnostic. It does not mean that I myself am unsure of what I believe…it means that I believe that whether or not there is a God is unknowable to humans.

I agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My brother was agnostic, then atheist. He got into a terrible motorcycle accident. The woman who hit him had a heart attack while driving and died, he barely survived. He had a very long and difficult recovery, even had to get around in a wheelchair for a time.

He surprisingly became a Christian while recovering from that awful tragedy.

Head injury?

No, his legs were horribly broken. His pelvis was smashed. They were very close to amputating his left leg. His doctors thought he may never walk again.

It’s cool you thought to make fun of his accident though. You don’t seem to exhibit the kindness you claim is lacking in Christians.

When have I commented on Christian kindness?

So you are happy to be a person who thinks life threatening accidents are jokes.

Everyone here constantly points out how mean spirited and rude Christians are to people who are not their religion.

Why do you think a car accident in which a woman died and a young man grievously injured is something to poke fun at?

I haven't commented on "how mean spirited and rude Christians are". Why would you assume that I do?

I'm poking fun at you since your comment was totally off topic.

So asking me if my brother had a head injury from his accident is poking fun at me? I don’t follow that logic at all.

It sounded like you were asking if he had a head injury and a result of the damage to his head and brain was his conversion to Christianity.

That’s what you meant. Because you are that type of person.

sounds like pp is determined to start a fight. Maybe best to ignore them.

Seems like the pp was trying to start a fight with her off-topic comment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I call myself an atheist as it most clearly communicates my lack of belief in a god or gods. For most purposes it’s enough.

I don’t use agnostic b/c there’s an implication that my belief is uncertain or unsure of my belief status. I am certain of my experience and the inquiry I’ve put in on the matter, and I am both certain and comfortable with my lack of belief.

I can’t, however, make the absolute claim that there is no god.

I am agnostic. It does not mean that I myself am unsure of what I believe…it means that I believe that whether or not there is a God is unknowable to humans.

Sounds like you're also an atheist. You can be both. Agnostic does not mean "unsure" or "doubting" -- It means not knowing. Nobody really knows, but many people wholeheartedly believe even though they haven't seen god and have no proof. That's where faith comes in.

I know what I am. I’ve spent a great deal of time reflecting on my beliefs. I think that expressing supreme confidence that God does not exist is exactly the same as expressing supreme confidence that God does exist. We do not know, we will never know, and we are likely not capable of understanding the origins of the universe and why we exist. As you say, that’s where faith comes in, for those who choose to follow a religion.

Same, but I call myself an atheist as it pertains to my non belief in a theistic being. I’m a strongly unconvinced of ghosts and unicorns, but use the term agnostic in describing my belief status.

I guess I’m agnostic about Santa and unicorns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My brother was agnostic, then atheist. He got into a terrible motorcycle accident. The woman who hit him had a heart attack while driving and died, he barely survived. He had a very long and difficult recovery, even had to get around in a wheelchair for a time.

He surprisingly became a Christian while recovering from that awful tragedy.

Head injury?

No, his legs were horribly broken. His pelvis was smashed. They were very close to amputating his left leg. His doctors thought he may never walk again.

It’s cool you thought to make fun of his accident though. You don’t seem to exhibit the kindness you claim is lacking in Christians.

When have I commented on Christian kindness?

So you are happy to be a person who thinks life threatening accidents are jokes.

Everyone here constantly points out how mean spirited and rude Christians are to people who are not their religion.

Why do you think a car accident in which a woman died and a young man grievously injured is something to poke fun at?

I haven't commented on "how mean spirited and rude Christians are". Why would you assume that I do?

I'm poking fun at you since your comment was totally off topic.

So asking me if my brother had a head injury from his accident is poking fun at me? I don’t follow that logic at all.

It sounded like you were asking if he had a head injury and a result of the damage to his head and brain was his conversion to Christianity.

That’s what you meant. Because you are that type of person.

I’m the kind of person who would make a joke because your post was off topic.

Should I just report it next time? Seems extreme.

I greatly appreciated the joke. I also felt it was aimed at the poster, who clearly had no business on this thread, rather than the brother.