Atheist/Agnostic ?

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

And I will call it Bob the Basketball Playing Donkey.

Who is right?

It’s okay.
You can’t force a gold fish to understand about an eagle.

You can't get anyone to understand your point.

“When the student is ready the teacher will appear”.

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

And I will call it Bob the Basketball Playing Donkey.

Who is right?

It’s okay.
You can’t force a gold fish to understand about an eagle.

You can't get anyone to understand your point.

“When the student is ready the teacher will appear”.

Meaning you are a dishonest interlocutor who won't engage in good faith. Typical.

[Anonymous]

I believe God is an invention of humans which may indicate God exists even if only in the minds of people.

I don't believe it's anyone's job to convince anyone else they are right or wrong. We all believe or don't believe based on what we personally need to survive or thrive in life.

I have no desire to label myself anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe God is an invention of humans which may indicate God exists even if only in the minds of people.

I don't believe it's anyone's job to convince anyone else they are right or wrong. We all believe or don't believe based on what we personally need to survive or thrive in life.

I have no desire to label myself anything.

OK, It's not anyone's job to convince anyone of anything about religion. Not everyone believes based on what they need to survive or thrive --- some believe because of what they've been taught, and out of fear. Also, beliefs can change throughout life.

You don't need to label yourself. No one needs to, but some people want to.

Sounds to me like you're an atheist.

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

So Mother Nature could be the creator.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

And I will call it Bob the Basketball Playing Donkey.

Who is right?

It’s okay.
You can’t force a gold fish to understand about an eagle.

or someone who's counting on eternal salvation to understand someone who's not.

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

So Mother Nature could be the creator.

Mother Nature is within this universe, so no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

So Mother Nature could be the creator.

Mother Nature is within this universe, so no.

Mother Nature made the universe

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

So Mother Nature could be the creator.

Mother Nature is within this universe, so no.

Mother Nature made the universe

It is like you giving birth to yourself.
That’s not logical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I say I’m atheist, not agnostic, because I know* there are no gods.

*as much as you can “know” about anything that doesn’t exist

I wonder if believers in God would say they "know" there are no fairies or other supernatural beings -- that they only believe in their version of God and not any of the other stuff that's out there to believe in.

Everything came from something or from nothing.
Everything came from something believe in GOD.
Everything came from nothing are Atheist.
God believer's don’t have to believe in any other supernatural being.
Only GOD is beyond time and space also uncreated.

NP. You can believe in everything coming from something and not believe it’s the God that you personally believe in. Just FYI.

Okay,

The name that can be named is not the eternal name.
The nameless is the creator of everything.
Ever desire less, one can see the mystery.
Ever desiring, one can see the manifestation.

Not “everything”. Who created the creator?

The creator is uncreated.

If things can be uncreated, why do we need a creator at all?

Just the Creator is beyond creation, time and space even though atoms are nether created or destroyed in our universe.
I will say we need a cause for the Big Bang to happen.
Which I will call the Creator and ultimate reality.

So Mother Nature could be the creator.

Mother Nature is within this universe, so no.

Mother Nature made the universe

It is like you giving birth to yourself.
That’s not logical.

Depends on how you are defining Mother Nature, AKA the physical world. Mother Nature is the creator.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody can really KNOW if gods exist or if they don’t. There is no evidence supporting either belief.

We are all agnostic.

and some of us are atheist too. We don't know and we don't believe.

You are contradicting yourself.

You can keep typing that, but that doesn't make it so.

What is the word you would use for someone who does not have a belief in a god and also makes no claim there is not one?

As soon as you say belief, you are not agnostic. There is no believe or not believe. There is only not knowing.

This is completely incorrect.

I don't believe in a god because I don't see ample evidence there is one. But I also don't know, because I can't say for sure there is not.

You don't believe there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, because you haven't seen evidence there is not. But you also do not know it is an odd number.

I believe I don't know the number of gumballs in the jar. It could be odd or even. I am agnostic about the number of gumballs.

Lol, keep tapdancing, you also don't have a belief on whether it is odd or even.

Do you believe in Leprechauns? (Of course you don't)

Can you show evidence there are no Leprechauns? (Of course you can't, it is also unfalsifiable)

So you don't believe and you also don't know for sure.

Samey same same.

Why would I have a belief about the number of gumballs? First, we would need to agree on what a gumball is. Next, we would need to count the gumballs according to the agreed definition. Without these things, I don't believe there are an odd or even number of gumballs. I don't even know if gumballs are in the jar. They might be colored marbles. I don't believe anything because I don't have enough data to form a belief. I already know that I don't know.

The same applies to leprechauns. You will need a leprechaun definition first. It's unlikely you can define a leprechaun such that it would fit within the physical rules of this universe. Since an object which defies the physical rules of the universe can't exist, we can rule out your leprechaun by contradiction. You would have better luck asking me about a teapot orbiting the sun.

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Since an object which defies the physical rules of the universe can't exist, we can rule out your leprechaun by contradiction. You would have better luck asking me about a teapot orbiting the sun.

And also, god! Thanks for finally admitting! We're done here now!

(and I recognize you from the other thread)
(and I did ask you about the teapot)