AAP Appeal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lawyer up momma!

This.

[Anonymous]

Yup, I got called from his teacher many times for disrupting class, and come up names for other kids… this is why I suspect might be a social and behavior issue here cause his to get rejected. How do I roll this ball up if the appeal fails? I hope the appeal will work.

[Anonymous]

Yes, he’s Asian too

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup, I got called from his teacher many times for disrupting class, and come up names for other kids… this is why I suspect might be a social and behavior issue here cause his to get rejected. How do I roll this ball up if the appeal fails? I hope the appeal will work.

That doesn't affect the GBRS negatively. I can speak from experience.

[Anonymous]

Dr. Michelle Reid is the regional superintended? I do think there’s a racial discrimination here. Especially his scores are not borderline and at very top.

[Anonymous]

His second grade teacher changed twice in a year, the first time his original teacher went on maternity leave. He had a sub for half of the year, and changed to a new teacher in the second half of the year. How can a teacher know the kid well if they did not spend enough time with the kid? I also don’t even know which teacher evaluated his GBRS…. It’s likely to be the newest which had the least of the amount of time with him when the form was submitted. Can this be a point on the appeal cover letter if GBRS was the issue? I don’t know his GBRS which I already requested from his AART, should get it after the spring break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are going to take the WISC V, with both scores qualify for Mensa I don’t understand why he can’t get in. He is hyper and active and all over the place which is a typical trait for gifted. Not sure what his teach wrote, which I have requested from the school already, if it turns out that he disrupts classes then that’s a good thing to counter in a cover letter.

Your answer is right here.

[Anonymous]

Not sure how angry I need to show on the cover letter…. Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His second grade teacher changed twice in a year, the first time his original teacher went on maternity leave. He had a sub for half of the year, and changed to a new teacher in the second half of the year. How can a teacher know the kid well if they did not spend enough time with the kid? I also don’t even know which teacher evaluated his GBRS…. It’s likely to be the newest which had the least of the amount of time with him when the form was submitted. Can this be a point on the appeal cover letter if GBRS was the issue? I don’t know his GBRS which I already requested from his AART, should get it after the spring break.

Unfortunately, it's likely to hurt rather than help your case if you in any way suggest that the teacher did not fairly evaluate your child. Even if 99% of the input was from the new classroom teacher who barely knows your child, the GBRS form was likely signed off on by the principal, AART, and perhaps another teacher. FCPS will circle the wagons around its teachers.

Instead, focus on the gifted traits that your child is demonstrating and how so. When you get the GBRS form and work samples, try to address any of the areas that seem to be lacking. Like, if your child got a lower rating for Motivation, give concrete examples of how your child is demonstrating some of the bullet points in the Motivation section.

Also, give specific examples of how your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom. Asking for more advanced work and being denied the chance is a great example. If you think your child is having hyperactive ADHD issues and is being disruptive because he isn't being challenged and engaged enough in class, absolutely put that in the appeal letter. Give examples of times where he is adequately challenged and behaves better as a result. It's also worth pointing out that the AAP center teachers are much more experienced with 2E kids and would likely be better equipped to support your child than a regular classroom teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:His second grade teacher changed twice in a year, the first time his original teacher went on maternity leave. He had a sub for half of the year, and changed to a new teacher in the second half of the year. How can a teacher know the kid well if they did not spend enough time with the kid? I also don’t even know which teacher evaluated his GBRS…. It’s likely to be the newest which had the least of the amount of time with him when the form was submitted. Can this be a point on the appeal cover letter if GBRS was the issue? I don’t know his GBRS which I already requested from his AART, should get it after the spring break.

Unfortunately, it's likely to hurt rather than help your case if you in any way suggest that the teacher did not fairly evaluate your child. Even if 99% of the input was from the new classroom teacher who barely knows your child, the GBRS form was likely signed off on by the principal, AART, and perhaps another teacher. FCPS will circle the wagons around its teachers.

Instead, focus on the gifted traits that your child is demonstrating and how so. When you get the GBRS form and work samples, try to address any of the areas that seem to be lacking. Like, if your child got a lower rating for Motivation, give concrete examples of how your child is demonstrating some of the bullet points in the Motivation section.

Also, give specific examples of how your child's needs cannot be met in a regular classroom. Asking for more advanced work and being denied the chance is a great example. If you think your child is having hyperactive ADHD issues and is being disruptive because he isn't being challenged and engaged enough in class, absolutely put that in the appeal letter. Give examples of times where he is adequately challenged and behaves better as a result. It's also worth pointing out that the AAP center teachers are much more experienced with 2E kids and would likely be better equipped to support your child than a regular classroom teacher.

This is very helpful! He learnt how to do Excel graphs and concept of Taxes when he was nosy around what I was doing at home! Very good suggestions! Also he got to the point he was afraid to ask creative questions in school, he brought up aliens to me, and I asked him that you can ask your teacher and classmates, his first reaction was ‘am I going to get in trouble?’…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are going to take the WISC V, with both scores qualify for Mensa I don’t understand why he can’t get in. He is hyper and active and all over the place which is a typical trait for gifted. Not sure what his teach wrote, which I have requested from the school already, if it turns out that he disrupts classes then that’s a good thing to counter in a cover letter.

Your answer is right here.

Except that my hyper and all over the place kid is in L4, so that is not universal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are going to take the WISC V, with both scores qualify for Mensa I don’t understand why he can’t get in. He is hyper and active and all over the place which is a typical trait for gifted. Not sure what his teach wrote, which I have requested from the school already, if it turns out that he disrupts classes then that’s a good thing to counter in a cover letter.

Your answer is right here.

Except that my hyper and all over the place kid is in L4, so that is not universal.

There are manny different type of hyper. Some are hyper and disruptive others are just hyper. Also, different teachers also have different levels of experience to manage such behaviors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:lawyer up momma!

Lawyers will do nothing to get your kid into AAP. There are too many people in your boat. Some say discrimination against Asians… some against black etc etc. At the end of it, just apply again. My kid is Indian. Great scores, perfect GBRS, all 4s etc. It bothered me so much of why he didn’t get in 2nd and 3rd. He was in Mensa and yet couldn’t get into AAP at his school. I also thought, maybe discrimination against Asians but the majority of kids in AAP ARE Asian…. I even called a lawyer who said I had very little chances of winning this and many have asked him before. This will not make or break your kid. Just have them in level III and make sure they are in advanced math. My kid did get in 4th grade. And he likes it and is thriving. But was also great in level III and Advanced math. Don’t sweat it much. Just apply again.

[Anonymous]

DP here; below are my kid's creds. Will an appeal make sense? Should we do the WISK 5 test? thx

Current grade: 2
NNAT/CoGAT: 132/133 - 98% on both
GBRS (if known): unknown
Enrolled in advanced math
Excellent grades
School or center: Falls Church pyramid
In/not in: NOT IN

[Anonymous]

There is no Advanced Math in 2nd grade, he might be getting LII services but that is not Advanced Math.

You need to check his GBRS and address the issues raised ther specifically. Based on your description, I would guess mainly Occasionally Observes. His test scores are solid but not the 140 and higher that tend to be head scratchers for folks here.