Ted Lasso - Season 3

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

Thats interesting. I feel like Ted-isms are a part of how he handles stress. Like its goofy and affable but it comes from a place of hurt or distraction. They get more ridiculous and schticky as his personal life gets worse

Also it's going to be hard for him to keep that up when Zava is essentially taking over that role, as great motivator and aphorism-speaker, while also having the immense soccer talent to back it up. Ted is going to face irrelevancy with his own team, as he's going through all these other things - and I think that will be a real struggle for him.

The betrayal of having is his former marriage therapist dating his ex-wife isn't going to help.

I actually am not sure I can watch this season because the stuff they are setting Ted up to go through feels a bit too much like stuff I've dealt with and if the take-away is "just go to therapy with your perfect therapist who always knows exactly how to listen and what to say, and lean on your large group of supportive and emotionally mature friends" I"m going to get annoyed because that's no how life works. At all.

This is also something that annoys me about Shrinking (not coincidentally, given the shared DNA in the two shows). Kudos to the show for addressing issues of grief and loss head on, but sometimes it's hard for me to get past the fact that they are doing it with a group of somehow obscenely wealthy therapists in Pasadena who are all friends and have this very cohesive social circle that includes their coworkers, neighbors, spouses, and friends from college. That's literally no ones life. Grief is insanely isolating and at no point do you wind up surrounded by all the significant people in your life you all know what you are going through AND know each other and get to feel supported in real time by that network. And also have no money problems ever. This is not how life works.

I am the PP - and I know just what you mean. I often feel that way about shows - and books - where so much of the plot and development hinges on the person having unending wealth, astonishing beauty, friends and a support network who show up at any time of day under any circumstance to do whatever you need. It was one of my complaints about Lessons in Chemistry, actually - that so much of the plot depended on the main character being just so stunningly beautiful and able to learn new things at the drop of a hat. Something I liked about Remarkably Bright Creatures is that no one's development depended on the whole world standing still for them at any given moment because they are just that irresistible.

Maybe I need more therapy, myself.

I mean, yeah, I definitely need more therapy. But I've also had enough therapy to know that no therapist I find is going to be a strong, skilled, and ethical as Ted's therapist is. I've had therapists who barely listen to me when I talk. My last therapist was surprised to discover that I was still struggling with the past trauma I had come to her to address because I'd stopped discussing it in therapy, but I stopped discussing it because whenever I'd bring it up she'd put this "silver lining" on it or try to cast it in a better light and it felt dismissive and like she was annoyed at having to discuss it, so I stopped.

I know that wouldn't make for a good show but having talked to a lot of people about this issue, my experience is COMMON. But therapy is so often portrayed on TV as this positive experience where the therapist is good at their job and just talking stuff through with them helps. But a lot of therapists make things worse because a lot of therapists are bad. I guess maybe the therapists on these shows are good because they are the kind who can charge enough to afford a $3m house in Pasadena, CA. I'm guessing they don't take my insurance.

Not to totally derail this thread - but if you do any writing, this would be a fascinating essay. I'd love to read it.

My therapist was kind of helpful but also seemed like too much of a friend, and then I ended up feeling like there were things I couldn't talk to him about because I'd disappoint my friend or make him see me differently.

The single most useful thing I've gotten out of therapy was a comment a therapist made to me as I was firing her. It wasn't even her comment. She was under supervision (still getting her grad degree so had a supervisor who she discussed her patients with, I was aware of this arrangement and had consented to it) and she told me what her supervisor thought I needed. And it was SPOT ON. It would actually be years before I fully understood how insightful this comment was, I'd wind up with another (not that useful) therapist and also read a bunch of books and do some work on my own first, but I can tell you that this woman who never even met me and only knew of my issues via talking to my therapist and maybe reading notes had me pinned and understood what I needed better than any actual therapist I've ever had.

Of course, that person is an established therapist who was not taking on new clients and left that clinic shortly after to work out of her home and does not take insurance.

I guess I'm lucky I got that one nugget of wisdom? Good therapists are worth their weight in gold and most of them know it -- they don't lose clients and they don't have to put up with the hassle of insurance if they don't want to, and that's one of a several reasons why its so hard to access good therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

Thats interesting. I feel like Ted-isms are a part of how he handles stress. Like its goofy and affable but it comes from a place of hurt or distraction. They get more ridiculous and schticky as his personal life gets worse

Also it's going to be hard for him to keep that up when Zava is essentially taking over that role, as great motivator and aphorism-speaker, while also having the immense soccer talent to back it up. Ted is going to face irrelevancy with his own team, as he's going through all these other things - and I think that will be a real struggle for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

Thats interesting. I feel like Ted-isms are a part of how he handles stress. Like its goofy and affable but it comes from a place of hurt or distraction. They get more ridiculous and schticky as his personal life gets worse

Also it's going to be hard for him to keep that up when Zava is essentially taking over that role, as great motivator and aphorism-speaker, while also having the immense soccer talent to back it up. Ted is going to face irrelevancy with his own team, as he's going through all these other things - and I think that will be a real struggle for him.

I don't think Zava is going to last too long given his entrance early in the season and Jamie being set up for some kind of rise. Maybe Zava absconds to the mediation retreat.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

I'm suspicious. They're saying that this story arc is ending. I'm wondering if Ted is going to start coaching ice hickey or something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

Thats interesting. I feel like Ted-isms are a part of how he handles stress. Like its goofy and affable but it comes from a place of hurt or distraction. They get more ridiculous and schticky as his personal life gets worse

Also it's going to be hard for him to keep that up when Zava is essentially taking over that role, as great motivator and aphorism-speaker, while also having the immense soccer talent to back it up. Ted is going to face irrelevancy with his own team, as he's going through all these other things - and I think that will be a real struggle for him.

The betrayal of having is his former marriage therapist dating his ex-wife isn't going to help.

I actually am not sure I can watch this season because the stuff they are setting Ted up to go through feels a bit too much like stuff I've dealt with and if the take-away is "just go to therapy with your perfect therapist who always knows exactly how to listen and what to say, and lean on your large group of supportive and emotionally mature friends" I"m going to get annoyed because that's no how life works. At all.

This is also something that annoys me about Shrinking (not coincidentally, given the shared DNA in the two shows). Kudos to the show for addressing issues of grief and loss head on, but sometimes it's hard for me to get past the fact that they are doing it with a group of somehow obscenely wealthy therapists in Pasadena who are all friends and have this very cohesive social circle that includes their coworkers, neighbors, spouses, and friends from college. That's literally no ones life. Grief is insanely isolating and at no point do you wind up surrounded by all the significant people in your life you all know what you are going through AND know each other and get to feel supported in real time by that network. And also have no money problems ever. This is not how life works.

I am the PP - and I know just what you mean. I often feel that way about shows - and books - where so much of the plot and development hinges on the person having unending wealth, astonishing beauty, friends and a support network who show up at any time of day under any circumstance to do whatever you need. It was one of my complaints about Lessons in Chemistry, actually - that so much of the plot depended on the main character being just so stunningly beautiful and able to learn new things at the drop of a hat. Something I liked about Remarkably Bright Creatures is that no one's development depended on the whole world standing still for them at any given moment because they are just that irresistible.

Maybe I need more therapy, myself.

I mean, yeah, I definitely need more therapy. But I've also had enough therapy to know that no therapist I find is going to be a strong, skilled, and ethical as Ted's therapist is. I've had therapists who barely listen to me when I talk. My last therapist was surprised to discover that I was still struggling with the past trauma I had come to her to address because I'd stopped discussing it in therapy, but I stopped discussing it because whenever I'd bring it up she'd put this "silver lining" on it or try to cast it in a better light and it felt dismissive and like she was annoyed at having to discuss it, so I stopped.

I know that wouldn't make for a good show but having talked to a lot of people about this issue, my experience is COMMON. But therapy is so often portrayed on TV as this positive experience where the therapist is good at their job and just talking stuff through with them helps. But a lot of therapists make things worse because a lot of therapists are bad. I guess maybe the therapists on these shows are good because they are the kind who can charge enough to afford a $3m house in Pasadena, CA. I'm guessing they don't take my insurance.

Not to totally derail this thread - but if you do any writing, this would be a fascinating essay. I'd love to read it.

My therapist was kind of helpful but also seemed like too much of a friend, and then I ended up feeling like there were things I couldn't talk to him about because I'd disappoint my friend or make him see me differently.

The single most useful thing I've gotten out of therapy was a comment a therapist made to me as I was firing her. It wasn't even her comment. She was under supervision (still getting her grad degree so had a supervisor who she discussed her patients with, I was aware of this arrangement and had consented to it) and she told me what her supervisor thought I needed. And it was SPOT ON. It would actually be years before I fully understood how insightful this comment was, I'd wind up with another (not that useful) therapist and also read a bunch of books and do some work on my own first, but I can tell you that this woman who never even met me and only knew of my issues via talking to my therapist and maybe reading notes had me pinned and understood what I needed better than any actual therapist I've ever had.

Of course, that person is an established therapist who was not taking on new clients and left that clinic shortly after to work out of her home and does not take insurance.

I guess I'm lucky I got that one nugget of wisdom? Good therapists are worth their weight in gold and most of them know it -- they don't lose clients and they don't have to put up with the hassle of insurance if they don't want to, and that's one of a several reasons why its so hard to access good therapy.

It's nice that you got a nugget of wisdom, but I don't really think of therapy as getting told what you need. It's more about learning tools to help yourself. Therapy has helped me put things in perspective and couples therapy certainly helped us communicate better through learning different techniques.

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Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

Thats interesting. I feel like Ted-isms are a part of how he handles stress. Like its goofy and affable but it comes from a place of hurt or distraction. They get more ridiculous and schticky as his personal life gets worse

Also it's going to be hard for him to keep that up when Zava is essentially taking over that role, as great motivator and aphorism-speaker, while also having the immense soccer talent to back it up. Ted is going to face irrelevancy with his own team, as he's going through all these other things - and I think that will be a real struggle for him.

The betrayal of having is his former marriage therapist dating his ex-wife isn't going to help.

I actually am not sure I can watch this season because the stuff they are setting Ted up to go through feels a bit too much like stuff I've dealt with and if the take-away is "just go to therapy with your perfect therapist who always knows exactly how to listen and what to say, and lean on your large group of supportive and emotionally mature friends" I"m going to get annoyed because that's no how life works. At all.

This is also something that annoys me about Shrinking (not coincidentally, given the shared DNA in the two shows). Kudos to the show for addressing issues of grief and loss head on, but sometimes it's hard for me to get past the fact that they are doing it with a group of somehow obscenely wealthy therapists in Pasadena who are all friends and have this very cohesive social circle that includes their coworkers, neighbors, spouses, and friends from college. That's literally no ones life. Grief is insanely isolating and at no point do you wind up surrounded by all the significant people in your life you all know what you are going through AND know each other and get to feel supported in real time by that network. And also have no money problems ever. This is not how life works.

I am the PP - and I know just what you mean. I often feel that way about shows - and books - where so much of the plot and development hinges on the person having unending wealth, astonishing beauty, friends and a support network who show up at any time of day under any circumstance to do whatever you need. It was one of my complaints about Lessons in Chemistry, actually - that so much of the plot depended on the main character being just so stunningly beautiful and able to learn new things at the drop of a hat. Something I liked about Remarkably Bright Creatures is that no one's development depended on the whole world standing still for them at any given moment because they are just that irresistible.

Maybe I need more therapy, myself.

I mean, yeah, I definitely need more therapy. But I've also had enough therapy to know that no therapist I find is going to be a strong, skilled, and ethical as Ted's therapist is. I've had therapists who barely listen to me when I talk. My last therapist was surprised to discover that I was still struggling with the past trauma I had come to her to address because I'd stopped discussing it in therapy, but I stopped discussing it because whenever I'd bring it up she'd put this "silver lining" on it or try to cast it in a better light and it felt dismissive and like she was annoyed at having to discuss it, so I stopped.

I know that wouldn't make for a good show but having talked to a lot of people about this issue, my experience is COMMON. But therapy is so often portrayed on TV as this positive experience where the therapist is good at their job and just talking stuff through with them helps. But a lot of therapists make things worse because a lot of therapists are bad. I guess maybe the therapists on these shows are good because they are the kind who can charge enough to afford a $3m house in Pasadena, CA. I'm guessing they don't take my insurance.

Not to totally derail this thread - but if you do any writing, this would be a fascinating essay. I'd love to read it.

My therapist was kind of helpful but also seemed like too much of a friend, and then I ended up feeling like there were things I couldn't talk to him about because I'd disappoint my friend or make him see me differently.

The single most useful thing I've gotten out of therapy was a comment a therapist made to me as I was firing her. It wasn't even her comment. She was under supervision (still getting her grad degree so had a supervisor who she discussed her patients with, I was aware of this arrangement and had consented to it) and she told me what her supervisor thought I needed. And it was SPOT ON. It would actually be years before I fully understood how insightful this comment was, I'd wind up with another (not that useful) therapist and also read a bunch of books and do some work on my own first, but I can tell you that this woman who never even met me and only knew of my issues via talking to my therapist and maybe reading notes had me pinned and understood what I needed better than any actual therapist I've ever had.

Of course, that person is an established therapist who was not taking on new clients and left that clinic shortly after to work out of her home and does not take insurance.

I guess I'm lucky I got that one nugget of wisdom? Good therapists are worth their weight in gold and most of them know it -- they don't lose clients and they don't have to put up with the hassle of insurance if they don't want to, and that's one of a several reasons why its so hard to access good therapy.

It's nice that you got a nugget of wisdom, but I don't really think of therapy as getting told what you need. It's more about learning tools to help yourself. Therapy has helped me put things in perspective and couples therapy certainly helped us communicate better through learning different techniques.

PP here. Yes, that's what this was. It was a way of framing my life that helped me think about it differently and find solutions, on my own, that have made more of a difference than anything else I discussed with that therapist. I agree that therapy isn't being told what to do or what you need, but therapists have a lot of power to help frame things or to ask questions in a way that open doors instead of close them. The two therapists I've had have not been great at this. My most recent therapist had this habit of placating me, where I'd talk about something that was upsetting me and all she'd ever have to say was "yes, I can see why that is upsetting." After a while it just felt kind of useless to talk to someone who would just parrot back what I was saying. I think she thought it was validating but I just found it pointless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

I agree that it unfortunately has. Just does not feel like the prior seasons at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

I agree that it unfortunately has. Just does not feel like the prior seasons at all.

Yup
dead as a dodo

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone watching the latest (and maybe last) season of Ted Lasso?

I was so looking forward to the new season but so far it’s falling a little flat for me. It’s still delightful but it’s trying too hard.

This exactly for me as well

Same. During one Ted-ism I definitely found myself cringing a bit versus adoring it.

They might have made the right decision to stop with this season.

Thats interesting. I feel like Ted-isms are a part of how he handles stress. Like its goofy and affable but it comes from a place of hurt or distraction. They get more ridiculous and schticky as his personal life gets worse

Also it's going to be hard for him to keep that up when Zava is essentially taking over that role, as great motivator and aphorism-speaker, while also having the immense soccer talent to back it up. Ted is going to face irrelevancy with his own team, as he's going through all these other things - and I think that will be a real struggle for him.

The betrayal of having is his former marriage therapist dating his ex-wife isn't going to help.

I actually am not sure I can watch this season because the stuff they are setting Ted up to go through feels a bit too much like stuff I've dealt with and if the take-away is "just go to therapy with your perfect therapist who always knows exactly how to listen and what to say, and lean on your large group of supportive and emotionally mature friends" I"m going to get annoyed because that's no how life works. At all.

This is also something that annoys me about Shrinking (not coincidentally, given the shared DNA in the two shows). Kudos to the show for addressing issues of grief and loss head on, but sometimes it's hard for me to get past the fact that they are doing it with a group of somehow obscenely wealthy therapists in Pasadena who are all friends and have this very cohesive social circle that includes their coworkers, neighbors, spouses, and friends from college. That's literally no ones life. Grief is insanely isolating and at no point do you wind up surrounded by all the significant people in your life you all know what you are going through AND know each other and get to feel supported in real time by that network. And also have no money problems ever. This is not how life works.

I like both shows but I really appreciate these observations. You're so right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

I agree that it unfortunately has. Just does not feel like the prior seasons at all.

Yup
dead as a dodo

I felt the same way about Derry Girls and its third season. Much less funny and the plots were more contrived. Maybe shows like this are only good for two seasons before they lapse into mediocrity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

I agree that it unfortunately has. Just does not feel like the prior seasons at all.

Yup
dead as a dodo

I felt the same way about Derry Girls and its third season. Much less funny and the plots were more contrived. Maybe shows like this are only good for two seasons before they lapse into mediocrity.

Yes I think when the producers want to squeeze out their last cent of value but don't invest in the writers / a good story before making the show, thinking it can coast on the success of the previous shows. That happened with MASH back in the 80s and it happens today.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

I agree that it unfortunately has. Just does not feel like the prior seasons at all.

I’m still enjoying it. It’s not the amazing surprise it was in season 1, but I’m still invested in the characters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

I agree that it unfortunately has. Just does not feel like the prior seasons at all.

I’m still enjoying it. It’s not the amazing surprise it was in season 1, but I’m still invested in the characters.

Oh, I'm still invested. I want Keeley and Roy to reconcile, and I want Nate to get his comeuppance but I know that won't happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think the show has lost its magic? It's just so boring and all the actors perform fake.

So sad to say that I agree. I am finding many of the characters just annoying now. It definitely feels played out (no pun intended).