S/o: The shrinking middle class at top schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

Because you have to apply to schools that meet need. Not all do—they simply don’t have to

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

Substantial assets?

[Anonymous]

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid. Substantial assets? [code] Rental property or listed on another property with family?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

We have $300K combined income. 3 kids. two of them are twins.
We got substantial discount for having multiple kids in colleges at the same time.
(doesn't need to be the same college)
I think it's called sibling discount. Public schools don't offer this.
See if you can take advantage of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

We have $300K combined income. 3 kids. two of them are twins.
We got substantial discount for having multiple kids in colleges at the same time.
(doesn't need to be the same college)
I think it's called sibling discount. Public schools don't offer this.
See if you can take advantage of this.

FAFSA was 'reformed' to remove that discount

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

We have $300K combined income. 3 kids. two of them are twins.
We got substantial discount for having multiple kids in colleges at the same time.
(doesn't need to be the same college)
I think it's called sibling discount. Public schools don't offer this.
See if you can take advantage of this.

FAFSA was 'reformed' to remove that discount

That's why I said ' Public schools don't offer', however most private schools with CSS still do.
So my kids were able to say no thank you to UVA VT and go to OOS Privates.
One kid probably needs to full pay for the last year though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

We have $300K combined income. 3 kids. two of them are twins.
We got substantial discount for having multiple kids in colleges at the same time.
(doesn't need to be the same college)
I think it's called sibling discount. Public schools don't offer this.
See if you can take advantage of this.

FAFSA was 'reformed' to remove that discount

That's why I said ' Public schools don't offer', however most private schools with CSS still do.
So my kids were able to say no thank you to UVA VT and go to OOS Privates.
One kid probably needs to full pay for the last year though.

So if you're a family that can afford in state, but can't afford private school tuition, the solution is worthless. If you can stretch enough, then the solution is to send kid 1 to public school as a freshman, have kid 1 transfer to private and tell kid 2 to apply only to private, and then make kid 2 transfer 2 public after kid 1 graduates?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The wealthy keep their stranglehold on access to elite institutions- throw some bones to the underclass to deflect criticism. DEI is also designed to racialize what is an income inequality issue. Privilege is tied to whiteness rather than wealth

Well I mean it’s tied to both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

We have $300K combined income. 3 kids. two of them are twins.
We got substantial discount for having multiple kids in colleges at the same time.
(doesn't need to be the same college)
I think it's called sibling discount. Public schools don't offer this.
See if you can take advantage of this.

FAFSA was 'reformed' to remove that discount

That's why I said ' Public schools don't offer', however most private schools with CSS still do.
So my kids were able to say no thank you to UVA VT and go to OOS Privates.
One kid probably needs to full pay for the last year though.

So if you're a family that can afford in state, but can't afford private school tuition, the solution is worthless. If you can stretch enough, then the solution is to send kid 1 to public school as a freshman, have kid 1 transfer to private and tell kid 2 to apply only to private, and then make kid 2 transfer 2 public after kid 1 graduates?

Well it really worked out nicely for me as I have twins and another one only 1 year apart.
I only have full pay for 1 kid for 1 year.

If you have two kids back to back.
Kid 1: full pay for 1st year, then discount for 3 years.
K2 2: discount for 3 years, then full pay for the last year.

With the discount, cost is similar, little higher, or even cheaper compared to public.
Cost more than all public, but still a good option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A fool and his money are soon parted. You can get an excellent education for $10-30k a year if you study hard and shop around. It’s only the super wealthy dumb enough to spend $85k a year on junior.

30K a year is quite a lot for most middle class families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

That is middle class but having 4 kids is a choice. Most of us stop at 2 so we can afford our kids needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

We have $300K combined income. 3 kids. two of them are twins.
We got substantial discount for having multiple kids in colleges at the same time.
(doesn't need to be the same college)
I think it's called sibling discount. Public schools don't offer this.
See if you can take advantage of this.

FAFSA was 'reformed' to remove that discount

That's good it was reformed as at $300K, you can save.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

That is middle class but having 4 kids is a choice. Most of us stop at 2 so we can afford our kids needs.

We stopped at one. And still will be punished for it. Even in state schools are $30/year. And then forget any grad school on top of it. And no, DC should not have to work and defer grad school (delaying the benefits that come with a full career, including retirement, health benefits, home ownership) just to save for an education. DC would be saving the rest of DC's life to afford it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

That is middle class but having 4 kids is a choice. Most of us stop at 2 so we can afford our kids needs.

We stopped at one. And still will be punished for it. Even in state schools are $30/year. And then forget any grad school on top of it. And no, DC should not have to work and defer grad school (delaying the benefits that come with a full career, including retirement, health benefits, home ownership) just to save for an education. DC would be saving the rest of DC's life to afford it.

Grad school is optional. Any one worth attending pays a stipend (not a grand one, but a decent amount) or is worth the loans i.e. US MD school.

Grad school right out of undergrad is not necessary for CS, nursing, accounting (can get 150 credits during undergrad) and multiple other fields.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is exactly what I have been saying.

Hard working tax paying middle class should be rewarded not punished for the society and country to be healthy.

Implying that low-income families aren’t hardworking or taxpaying.

I didn't say that, but middle class is surely getting punished.

Real middle class are getting financial aid. You mean wealthy DCUM middle class who live in million dollar homes and choose not to save and yet demand their kids go to the most expensive schools. The rest of us, who are real middle class live within our means, or under our means to save for state school.

I think my family is real middle class. 4 kids, $110k combined income. DD got $0 in financial aid.

That is middle class but having 4 kids is a choice. Most of us stop at 2 so we can afford our kids needs.

Should a child in a family of 6 be punished?