What's the vibe in University Park (MD)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My earlier post must not have gotten through, but I am a UMD student and I am getting texts and alerts for crime off-campus all the time - much more than the other university I attended previously. It doesn’t seem like the safest place when you stray too far off campus. Maybe there are pockets with less crime though.

College Park is not University Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My earlier post must not have gotten through, but I am a UMD student and I am getting texts and alerts for crime off-campus all the time - much more than the other university I attended previously. It doesn’t seem like the safest place when you stray too far off campus. Maybe there are pockets with less crime though.

Your earlier post did come through but it was all lost in the DCUM meltdown. I get all the UMD safety alerts, and I’m just not overwhelmed by them. It seems like they come about 2x/month, and it’s typically an indecent exposure or a crime between people who knew each other. Doesn’t seem any worse than anywhere else in an urban area—the alerts just make us aware of stuff we wouldn’t know about otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apologies for the repost, but this question got lost in the great DCUM meltdown. We are focusing our spring home search on University Park, MD, because it checks the big boxes--good housing stock, proximity to green space, convenient for both our commutes, and we have a school situation that works for us. So I'm just wondering about the general vibe. Is it a friendly and welcoming place? Do kids from different schools (public/private/magnets) play together? Will I make mom friends? Are there sports/pool/clubs/etc.? Would love to hear any impressions!

I live in UP and have for about 5 years.

UP itself has very small town vibe to it. There are town events for Easter, Halloween, Christmas tree lighting, and Fourth of July parade. All of these are very low-key. For example, the Fourth of July consists of a group of people congregating at the Town Hall and walking down main road to the town green for a pinic, while some other people watch the procession. They do movies in the summer on the town green. I live in section of town that goes big for Halloween. I think we went through about 1,200 pieces of candy this year, because it draws some of the other neighborhoods in. The police block off some of the roads for a couple hours while the kids scurry about in what feels like a block party that covers a few blocks and maybe 50 houses or so. But when we lived 6 blocks away (still in UP), I think we had like maybe 25 kids all night.

My kids are younger, but I don't see a ton of division between those at publics vs private. The area has a number of kids at UPES, a few special publics (Chavez immersion, Glen Arden G&T), Friends Community School, and Saint Jerome. I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones that I know about.

Mom friends- I want to say yes. We made a ton of friends just visiting the local playground and tot lot. Though I don't want to overpromise if you have older elementary kids, because I don't know about coming to a new community with set friends. I will say that I think generally people in the nieghborhood are friendly. I know the name of basically everyone that lives on our block, though part of that it due to an extremely extroverted child. Neighbors have loaned me tools, took in packages when we were away on vacation, and who have generally indulged by talkative child. This winter our holiday trip was extended thanks to Southwest Airlines, and our neighbors (who had volunteered to watch for packages when we dropped off Christmas cookies) got stuck hauling in a fairly large number of packages as family members had sent gifts to arrive after we returned. In terms of the people you will meet here, I think most are college-educated professionals. Some professors, some Greenbelt NASA folks, fair number of Feds, but also some artists and skilled trades workers. Not sure what it is like when the kids get older, but I haven't encountered much of the overly intense parents who are trying turn thier kid into a bonzai tree in a shape pleasing to select Ivy League schools.

Prince George's Parks and Rec has a ton of opportunities, but we haven't explored the catalog much because our kids are still young. Our first sport expierence was soccer and it was a very laid back, vibe in the pre-school arena. I know kids involved in scouts and ballet. I also know that there is a cricket league that plays or practices near the elementary school. The town has tennis courts and I believe a camp that has some affiilations with JTCC, which I've heard is a big deal in the tennis world, but I don't know anything about tennis so could be totally wrong. There is also an ice rink less than 10 minutes away in college park (not at the university). They just built the new library across Adelphi Road and are supposed to be replacing the community center with a massive upgrade, if your kids are young. Most of the families I know are members at the Adelphi pool and I know some do swim lessons at UMD too.

I will say that not many houses come up for sale in the area, but they are generally comfortably below the $900,000- $1M price point, though there are certainly some options in that price range. Property taxes are high, but town services have generally been effective in my limited expierence. There are basically two local real estate teams that handle like 80% of the transactions around town, so just be aware of that. We rented in the area for almost 2 years while we were house hunting. It feels like a neighborhood where you see kids riding their bikes to a friend's house.

But you can't live just in UP. It's too small and has absolutely no businesses. Fortunatly, you can walk to a number of ammenites like a library, movie theater, metro, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Safeway, and a dozen restaruants. To me, I think there has been substantial amount of investment, particuarly in College Park. Within the last ten (or so) years, they have built five new groccery stores within a mile of town (Safeway, Lidl, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and Yes! Organic Market). Additionally, almost all of Route 1 above East West Highway is under construction for luxury apartment buildings and most of the "Hyattsville" around the mall metro has sprouted new townhouses. There is good food in the area 2Fifty BBQ, NW Chinese, Franklins, Pizza Paradiso, but not fine dining. I also feel like the traffic is less suffocating than the Bethesda/Rockville/Tyson's. As for greater crime discussion that invariably invades any discussion of Prince George's county, I can say that I've never had a problem. And I seriously doubt it's because I've intimidated anyone of who might be interested in committing a crime. I go to the Mall referenced here, but only because there is a Target. The rest is kind of rundown, but I think that is generally true of most malls these days. Still, I don't think it is particularly any more dangerous than Gallery Place. UP is nice, but within a few miles there are areas where crime is a greater concern. The town newsletter publishes a crime report from the UP police. It's not empty, but it's not like there are regular shootings or roving gangs stalking seniors walking their retrivers. My sense is that most of the crime is car break-ins and theft.

Thanks for taking the time to write this!! I’m going to take it as an affirmative answer to my question about whether folks in UP are friendly! We are definitely concerned about the low inventory situation, but it’s not a great time to be buying anywhere, so we are just doing the best we can. Hope we end up neighbors! (Except the TWELVE HUNDRED pieces of candy!! That’s shocking!!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have lots of friends there. Some kids play together but they gravitate to school friends, especially as they grow older. The nearby mall has crime problems, and my children are not allowed to go there (shootings).

Sure, some people are welcoming. There is a list serv and some local activities (races each year) that bring people together.

It’s a place to live if you want a decent house among trees that is about $900-$1m or more.

If you won’t let your children go to PG mall, you shouldn’t live here for sure. I am at PG mall all the time with my toddler. There HAS been one shooting there I can recall since we moved here. It wasn’t random, and I’m very comfortable going there and being a normal level of vigilant and alert. There was a shooting at Montgomery Mall a few years ago too. I bet the PP would let her kids go there, and I can speculate about why.

There were 2 shootings last summer. One was random and the other was not.
To be fair--Tyson's Corner also had a handful of shootings last summer but I am not sure anyone was actually killed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been to a few sporting events at UMD college park. Where is the nice area? The area around the university seems really run down and full of not very nice business.

Recently? The entire downtown has changed over the past 5 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For me it is the crime and the rundown look of the area. But I am sure there are some good neighborhoods.

huh?

it's one town. These homes are rundown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have lots of friends there. Some kids play together but they gravitate to school friends, especially as they grow older. The nearby mall has crime problems, and my children are not allowed to go there (shootings).

Sure, some people are welcoming. There is a list serv and some local activities (races each year) that bring people together.

It’s a place to live if you want a decent house among trees that is about $900-$1m or more.

If you won’t let your children go to PG mall, you shouldn’t live here for sure. I am at PG mall all the time with my toddler. There HAS been one shooting there I can recall since we moved here. It wasn’t random, and I’m very comfortable going there and being a normal level of vigilant and alert. There was a shooting at Montgomery Mall a few years ago too. I bet the PP would let her kids go there, and I can speculate about why.

There were 2 shootings last summer. One was random and the other was not.
To be fair--Tyson's Corner also had a handful of shootings last summer but I am not sure anyone was actually killed.

It's not like the Montgomery County State's Attorneys office has a shortage of murders to prosecute either.

[Anonymous]

Another UP resident here and can echo the long response on page 1.

I think you should just listen to people who live in the neighborhood or who actually walk around here on a regular basis. It's easy for me to tell which PPs are utterly not familiar with UP and have only driven past it. I frankly don't know why they take the time to respond. I think UP is very unique in that it is completely surrounded by development and a more dense urban setting with all its amenities as well as challenges like crime but within the UP borders it feels like a different world. It is quiet, it is pretty, it is peaceful.

As for people who live here, it's diverse in many senses but I will say that it's predominantly white. People are friendly and open, and really value and take pride in being good neighbors. I am also shocked by how many people I meet who grew up in UP as kids, went to college and started careers, and then moved back to UP to raise their own families. I personally think this shows how much love and affection people have for this little town.

As others have mentioned, inventory is a challenge. Lots of pocket listings. Depending on your budget or how picky you are, you may not be able to buy on your desired timeline. When we were house hunting we included Calvert Hills but that neighborhood also has low inventory. Maybe it also has less of a cohesive neighborhood feel? I'm not sure. But I liked it because it has better metro and trail access.

I am completely biased obviously but I love it here. I think you will love it too, so good luck with your house hunt!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apologies for the repost, but this question got lost in the great DCUM meltdown. We are focusing our spring home search on University Park, MD, because it checks the big boxes--good housing stock, proximity to green space, convenient for both our commutes, and we have a school situation that works for us. So I'm just wondering about the general vibe. Is it a friendly and welcoming place? Do kids from different schools (public/private/magnets) play together? Will I make mom friends? Are there sports/pool/clubs/etc.? Would love to hear any impressions!

I live in UP and have for about 5 years.

UP itself has very small town vibe to it. There are town events for Easter, Halloween, Christmas tree lighting, and Fourth of July parade. All of these are very low-key. For example, the Fourth of July consists of a group of people congregating at the Town Hall and walking down main road to the town green for a pinic, while some other people watch the procession. They do movies in the summer on the town green. I live in section of town that goes big for Halloween. I think we went through about 1,200 pieces of candy this year, because it draws some of the other neighborhoods in. The police block off some of the roads for a couple hours while the kids scurry about in what feels like a block party that covers a few blocks and maybe 50 houses or so. But when we lived 6 blocks away (still in UP), I think we had like maybe 25 kids all night.

My kids are younger, but I don't see a ton of division between those at publics vs private. The area has a number of kids at UPES, a few special publics (Chavez immersion, Glen Arden G&T), Friends Community School, and Saint Jerome. I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones that I know about.

Mom friends- I want to say yes. We made a ton of friends just visiting the local playground and tot lot. Though I don't want to overpromise if you have older elementary kids, because I don't know about coming to a new community with set friends. I will say that I think generally people in the nieghborhood are friendly. I know the name of basically everyone that lives on our block, though part of that it due to an extremely extroverted child. Neighbors have loaned me tools, took in packages when we were away on vacation, and who have generally indulged by talkative child. This winter our holiday trip was extended thanks to Southwest Airlines, and our neighbors (who had volunteered to watch for packages when we dropped off Christmas cookies) got stuck hauling in a fairly large number of packages as family members had sent gifts to arrive after we returned. In terms of the people you will meet here, I think most are college-educated professionals. Some professors, some Greenbelt NASA folks, fair number of Feds, but also some artists and skilled trades workers. Not sure what it is like when the kids get older, but I haven't encountered much of the overly intense parents who are trying turn thier kid into a bonzai tree in a shape pleasing to select Ivy League schools.

Prince George's Parks and Rec has a ton of opportunities, but we haven't explored the catalog much because our kids are still young. Our first sport expierence was soccer and it was a very laid back, vibe in the pre-school arena. I know kids involved in scouts and ballet. I also know that there is a cricket league that plays or practices near the elementary school. The town has tennis courts and I believe a camp that has some affiilations with JTCC, which I've heard is a big deal in the tennis world, but I don't know anything about tennis so could be totally wrong. There is also an ice rink less than 10 minutes away in college park (not at the university). They just built the new library across Adelphi Road and are supposed to be replacing the community center with a massive upgrade, if your kids are young. Most of the families I know are members at the Adelphi pool and I know some do swim lessons at UMD too.

I will say that not many houses come up for sale in the area, but they are generally comfortably below the $900,000- $1M price point, though there are certainly some options in that price range. Property taxes are high, but town services have generally been effective in my limited expierence. There are basically two local real estate teams that handle like 80% of the transactions around town, so just be aware of that. We rented in the area for almost 2 years while we were house hunting. It feels like a neighborhood where you see kids riding their bikes to a friend's house.

But you can't live just in UP. It's too small and has absolutely no businesses. Fortunatly, you can walk to a number of ammenites like a library, movie theater, metro, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Safeway, and a dozen restaruants. To me, I think there has been substantial amount of investment, particuarly in College Park. Within the last ten (or so) years, they have built five new groccery stores within a mile of town (Safeway, Lidl, Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and Yes! Organic Market). Additionally, almost all of Route 1 above East West Highway is under construction for luxury apartment buildings and most of the "Hyattsville" around the mall metro has sprouted new townhouses. There is good food in the area 2Fifty BBQ, NW Chinese, Franklins, Pizza Paradiso, but not fine dining. I also feel like the traffic is less suffocating than the Bethesda/Rockville/Tyson's. As for greater crime discussion that invariably invades any discussion of Prince George's county, I can say that I've never had a problem. And I seriously doubt it's because I've intimidated anyone of who might be interested in committing a crime. I go to the Mall referenced here, but only because there is a Target. The rest is kind of rundown, but I think that is generally true of most malls these days. Still, I don't think it is particularly any more dangerous than Gallery Place. UP is nice, but within a few miles there are areas where crime is a greater concern. The town newsletter publishes a crime report from the UP police. It's not empty, but it's not like there are regular shootings or roving gangs stalking seniors walking their retrivers. My sense is that most of the crime is car break-ins and theft.

Thanks for taking the time to write this!! I’m going to take it as an affirmative answer to my question about whether folks in UP are friendly! We are definitely concerned about the low inventory situation, but it’s not a great time to be buying anywhere, so we are just doing the best we can. Hope we end up neighbors! (Except the TWELVE HUNDRED pieces of candy!! That’s shocking!!)

It's possible that someone in this household distributes candy like he is getting kick backs from local dentists. The neighborhood is definitely active during Halloween, but the true mob scene is generally concentrated on a few blocks where enthusiastic decorators draw them in. Good luck on the house hunting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have lots of friends there. Some kids play together but they gravitate to school friends, especially as they grow older. The nearby mall has crime problems, and my children are not allowed to go there (shootings).

Sure, some people are welcoming. There is a list serv and some local activities (races each year) that bring people together.

It’s a place to live if you want a decent house among trees that is about $900-$1m or more.

If you won’t let your children go to PG mall, you shouldn’t live here for sure. I am at PG mall all the time with my toddler. There HAS been one shooting there I can recall since we moved here. It wasn’t random, and I’m very comfortable going there and being a normal level of vigilant and alert. There was a shooting at Montgomery Mall a few years ago too. I bet the PP would let her kids go there, and I can speculate about why.

There were 2 shootings last summer. One was random and the other was not.
To be fair--Tyson's Corner also had a handful of shootings last summer but I am not sure anyone was actually killed.

It's not like the Montgomery County State's Attorneys office has a shortage of murders to prosecute either.

why are you bringing up MoCo? Is that your automatic response whenever someone mentions crime at PGPlaza?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another UP resident here and can echo the long response on page 1.

I think you should just listen to people who live in the neighborhood or who actually walk around here on a regular basis. It's easy for me to tell which PPs are utterly not familiar with UP and have only driven past it. I frankly don't know why they take the time to respond. I think UP is very unique in that it is completely surrounded by development and a more dense urban setting with all its amenities as well as challenges like crime but within the UP borders it feels like a different world. It is quiet, it is pretty, it is peaceful.

As for people who live here, it's diverse in many senses but I will say that it's predominantly white. People are friendly and open, and really value and take pride in being good neighbors. I am also shocked by how many people I meet who grew up in UP as kids, went to college and started careers, and then moved back to UP to raise their own families. I personally think this shows how much love and affection people have for this little town.

As others have mentioned, inventory is a challenge. Lots of pocket listings. Depending on your budget or how picky you are, you may not be able to buy on your desired timeline. When we were house hunting we included Calvert Hills but that neighborhood also has low inventory. Maybe it also has less of a cohesive neighborhood feel? I'm not sure. But I liked it because it has better metro and trail access.

I am completely biased obviously but I love it here. I think you will love it too, so good luck with your house hunt!

I think that accurately described CH. College Park is working on throwing more town/neighborhood events and creating a town culture. The good thing is that because they have a commercial base the have the money for that sort of thing.

[Anonymous]

OP if you have your schools figured out I think it would be a mistake to limit to UP and not at least look in Hyattsville and Riverdale. Riverdale in particular by the train station is really, really cute and has some great businesses and the farmer’s market. Even Mt Rainier depending on what you want to be close to commute/school wise. UP is lovely not at all saying you shouldn’t look there, I just know the inventory is so limited and a lot of surrounding neighborhoods are also nice with the same nearby stuff.

[Anonymous]

Curious why UP is so white? Is there something historically that made that particular area not welcoming to non-whites?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious why UP is so white? Is there something historically that made that particular area not welcoming to non-whites?

Yes, it’s predominantly white, but I’m not white and my neighbor across the street is also not white. I think that it’s predominantly white because it has always been one of the nicer neighborhoods in PGC. My spouse grew up in the neighborhood and went to the local publics. The UP kids were considered “the rich kids” in middle and HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have lots of friends there. Some kids play together but they gravitate to school friends, especially as they grow older. The nearby mall has crime problems, and my children are not allowed to go there (shootings).

Sure, some people are welcoming. There is a list serv and some local activities (races each year) that bring people together.

It’s a place to live if you want a decent house among trees that is about $900-$1m or more.

If you won’t let your children go to PG mall, you shouldn’t live here for sure. I am at PG mall all the time with my toddler. There HAS been one shooting there I can recall since we moved here. It wasn’t random, and I’m very comfortable going there and being a normal level of vigilant and alert. There was a shooting at Montgomery Mall a few years ago too. I bet the PP would let her kids go there, and I can speculate about why.

Speculate away. Nice calling me a racist.

OP, This is who you’ll be living near in University Park.

Three people were shot in 2022 at the mall. Two of those died. A 17 year old was also shot dead at the metro station, and another person was knifed at West Hyattsville.

Not all were targeted but even if they were? Do you hear yourself—as if “targeted shootings” are cool. No worries there. Nothing to see, people! Just a dead body.

If someone wants to move here, I won’t be the one to lie about the issues. I hated it when people did that to me.