Consequences of LCPS teacher resigning mid-year when under contract?

[Anonymous]

Most parents tell their kids they can quit a sport but not abandon their team mid season. That’s the equivalent of this for me. Muscle out the year and then leave. He will still get another job. Any school that hires him when he’s committed elsewhere is on shaky ethical ground in my opinion anyway. Wouldn’t want to work for them. The world is small. Conduct yourself with integrity. No one says he has to stick with his job forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will kill his career. It’s not worth it. Tell him to stick the year out.

I mean, there’s four months left. You can’t tough it out for four months, OP? (We know this isn’t about your “brother.”)

Paul IV isn’t all that and a bag of chips, anyway. The grass isn’t always greener.

You sound deranged, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

NP here.

No, he’s not. He shouldn’t have to stay somewhere he’s miserable. Teachers don’t have to give up their own happiness, and I get really tired of hearing that we do.

OP, I know many teachers who have left mid-year. I’ve lost three in my department this year alone. Every single one who wanted to teach somewhere else is currently teaching somewhere else. There’s such a shortage of teachers right now that the penalty for breaking contract is no longer an issue.

I hope he finds somewhere he is happy.

Because he made a commitment to teach a group of students. No one is asking him to stay for years on end. It’s just a few more months. If he leaves, there are students who are left picking up the check for his so-called happiness. I’ve been teaching for over 25 years. It’s really hard. I get it. I am not happy everyday and have worked for some horrendous principals. There’s no way I ever would have left my students hanging in the middle of the year. I’ve figured out what I need to do to leave and then made my move at the end of the year.

I’ve been teaching 20. I’ve seen the misery a bad position can cause. I’ve had to take a coworker to the hospital because of suicidal talk. I’ve watched teachers cry before work on a daily basis. If you’re not liking it… get out! You are doing nobody any favors by martyring yourself in misery. My own children have lost teachers this year. They miss the teachers, but they’ll be okay.

OP, he can leave and he’ll be fine.

There’s a big difference between someone with significant mental health issues and someone who has a gig lined up at a private school where they’ll be happier. OP’s brother is the latter. It’s not martyrdom to finish out the year. It’s selfish and unprofessional to leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will kill his career. It’s not worth it. Tell him to stick the year out.

I mean, there’s four months left. You can’t tough it out for four months, OP? (We know this isn’t about your “brother.”)

Paul IV isn’t all that and a bag of chips, anyway. The grass isn’t always greener.

You sound deranged, PP.

Because PP thinks a teacher should honor his contract and maybe not think solely of himself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will kill his career. It’s not worth it. Tell him to stick the year out.

I mean, there’s four months left. You can’t tough it out for four months, OP? (We know this isn’t about your “brother.”)

Paul IV isn’t all that and a bag of chips, anyway. The grass isn’t always greener.

You sound deranged, PP.

PP here. That’s a strange takeaway. Maybe see a psychiatrist for help with your distorted thinking.

[Anonymous]

Another school is comfortable hiring him away from his current teaching position at this point in the academic year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

NP here.

No, he’s not. He shouldn’t have to stay somewhere he’s miserable. Teachers don’t have to give up their own happiness, and I get really tired of hearing that we do.

OP, I know many teachers who have left mid-year. I’ve lost three in my department this year alone. Every single one who wanted to teach somewhere else is currently teaching somewhere else. There’s such a shortage of teachers right now that the penalty for breaking contract is no longer an issue.

I hope he finds somewhere he is happy.

Because he made a commitment to teach a group of students. No one is asking him to stay for years on end. It’s just a few more months. If he leaves, there are students who are left picking up the check for his so-called happiness. I’ve been teaching for over 25 years. It’s really hard. I get it. I am not happy everyday and have worked for some horrendous principals. There’s no way I ever would have left my students hanging in the middle of the year. I’ve figured out what I need to do to leave and then made my move at the end of the year.

I’ve been teaching 20. I’ve seen the misery a bad position can cause. I’ve had to take a coworker to the hospital because of suicidal talk. I’ve watched teachers cry before work on a daily basis. If you’re not liking it… get out! You are doing nobody any favors by martyring yourself in misery. My own children have lost teachers this year. They miss the teachers, but they’ll be okay.

OP, he can leave and he’ll be fine.

There’s a big difference between someone with significant mental health issues and someone who has a gig lined up at a private school where they’ll be happier. OP’s brother is the latter. It’s not martyrdom to finish out the year. It’s selfish and unprofessional to leave.

Disagree. It isn’t unprofessional and selfish when people in other professions leave. Teaching is, at the end of the day, a job. We have to stop expecting martyrs of our teachers. Pay them low salaries because it’s “a calling” and then tell them they have to stick it out when they are miserable? What are we doing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

NP here.

No, he’s not. He shouldn’t have to stay somewhere he’s miserable. Teachers don’t have to give up their own happiness, and I get really tired of hearing that we do.

OP, I know many teachers who have left mid-year. I’ve lost three in my department this year alone. Every single one who wanted to teach somewhere else is currently teaching somewhere else. There’s such a shortage of teachers right now that the penalty for breaking contract is no longer an issue.

I hope he finds somewhere he is happy.

Because he made a commitment to teach a group of students. No one is asking him to stay for years on end. It’s just a few more months. If he leaves, there are students who are left picking up the check for his so-called happiness. I’ve been teaching for over 25 years. It’s really hard. I get it. I am not happy everyday and have worked for some horrendous principals. There’s no way I ever would have left my students hanging in the middle of the year. I’ve figured out what I need to do to leave and then made my move at the end of the year.

To stay through the end of the school year so his class isn't disrupted and his students can have some continuity and stability?

You have a low threshold for martyrdom.

I’ve been teaching 20. I’ve seen the misery a bad position can cause. I’ve had to take a coworker to the hospital because of suicidal talk. I’ve watched teachers cry before work on a daily basis. If you’re not liking it… get out! You are doing nobody any favors by martyring yourself in misery. My own children have lost teachers this year. They miss the teachers, but they’ll be okay.

OP, he can leave and he’ll be fine.

There’s a big difference between someone with significant mental health issues and someone who has a gig lined up at a private school where they’ll be happier. OP’s brother is the latter. It’s not martyrdom to finish out the year. It’s selfish and unprofessional to leave.

Disagree. It isn’t unprofessional and selfish when people in other professions leave. Teaching is, at the end of the day, a job. We have to stop expecting martyrs of our teachers. Pay them low salaries because it’s “a calling” and then tell them they have to stick it out when they are miserable? What are we doing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

NP here.

No, he’s not. He shouldn’t have to stay somewhere he’s miserable. Teachers don’t have to give up their own happiness, and I get really tired of hearing that we do.

OP, I know many teachers who have left mid-year. I’ve lost three in my department this year alone. Every single one who wanted to teach somewhere else is currently teaching somewhere else. There’s such a shortage of teachers right now that the penalty for breaking contract is no longer an issue.

I hope he finds somewhere he is happy.

Because he made a commitment to teach a group of students. No one is asking him to stay for years on end. It’s just a few more months. If he leaves, there are students who are left picking up the check for his so-called happiness. I’ve been teaching for over 25 years. It’s really hard. I get it. I am not happy everyday and have worked for some horrendous principals. There’s no way I ever would have left my students hanging in the middle of the year. I’ve figured out what I need to do to leave and then made my move at the end of the year.

To stay through the end of the school year so his class isn't disrupted and his students can have some continuity and stability?

You have a low threshold for martyrdom.

I’ve been teaching 20. I’ve seen the misery a bad position can cause. I’ve had to take a coworker to the hospital because of suicidal talk. I’ve watched teachers cry before work on a daily basis. If you’re not liking it… get out! You are doing nobody any favors by martyring yourself in misery. My own children have lost teachers this year. They miss the teachers, but they’ll be okay.

OP, he can leave and he’ll be fine.

There’s a big difference between someone with significant mental health issues and someone who has a gig lined up at a private school where they’ll be happier. OP’s brother is the latter. It’s not martyrdom to finish out the year. It’s selfish and unprofessional to leave.

Disagree. It isn’t unprofessional and selfish when people in other professions leave. Teaching is, at the end of the day, a job. We have to stop expecting martyrs of our teachers. Pay them low salaries because it’s “a calling” and then tell them they have to stick it out when they are miserable? What are we doing?

To stay through the end of the school year so his class isn't disrupted and his students can have some continuity and stability?

You have a low threshold for martyrdom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

No, you, and the other entities parents, are asses. It’s a job. He isn’t a slave and he didn’t enlist in the military.

Not OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This will kill his career. It’s not worth it. Tell him to stick the year out.

Nope. It’s not 2019 anymore. His career will be just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

No, you, and the other entities parents, are asses. It’s a job. He isn’t a slave and he didn’t enlist in the military.

Not OP

Learn the difference between "can" and "should". One shouldn't make their own happiness the deciding factor in every decision they make.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your brother’s a selfish ass.

NP here.

No, he’s not. He shouldn’t have to stay somewhere he’s miserable. Teachers don’t have to give up their own happiness, and I get really tired of hearing that we do.

OP, I know many teachers who have left mid-year. I’ve lost three in my department this year alone. Every single one who wanted to teach somewhere else is currently teaching somewhere else. There’s such a shortage of teachers right now that the penalty for breaking contract is no longer an issue.

I hope he finds somewhere he is happy.

Because he made a commitment to teach a group of students. No one is asking him to stay for years on end. It’s just a few more months. If he leaves, there are students who are left picking up the check for his so-called happiness. I’ve been teaching for over 25 years. It’s really hard. I get it. I am not happy everyday and have worked for some horrendous principals. There’s no way I ever would have left my students hanging in the middle of the year. I’ve figured out what I need to do to leave and then made my move at the end of the year.

It is hard. I completely don't think folks should have to stay where they are miserable, but it can be also so hard on the kids. My son's 2nd grade teacher left in October. She just disappeared one day, there was never a goodbye to the kids. Again, I get it is a job and folks should be allowed to leave. But the kids had been through virtual K and then messed up 1st grade and then lost their teacher in 2nd and now they still only have a long term sub, who is wonderful but it just isn't the same. A lot of the kids (including mine) really struggled in the fall after she left (including them crying and asking if they were so bad that she wanted to leave them).

Again, she had a right to leave but I really wish she had been able to talk to them about leaving before she left. So I guess I just suggest your brother talk to his students and not just disappear one day. Teachers can mean a lot to kids and it can be hard for them to just be gone one day.

Administration doesn’t allow teachers leaving mid year to “talk to the kids ahead of time.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most parents tell their kids they can quit a sport but not abandon their team mid season. That’s the equivalent of this for me. Muscle out the year and then leave. He will still get another job. Any school that hires him when he’s committed elsewhere is on shaky ethical ground in my opinion anyway. Wouldn’t want to work for them. The world is small. Conduct yourself with integrity. No one says he has to stick with his job forever.

Yawn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another school is comfortable hiring him away from his current teaching position at this point in the academic year?

Of course they are. There is a shortage and they’re desperate for warn bodies, let alone experienced teachers.