Wheaton HS unjustly punished

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

Seems like a valuable life lesson.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

Come on indeed. You actually wrote that? Consider it as a free life lesson. Better to learn that now than later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

It’s entirely possible that they didn’t know it was against the rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

The athletics code of conduct, which is read at each event, requires integrity and sportsmanship. I think it’s a stiff price but not out of bounds. This was terrible conduct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

these kids are not 7. "sorry i didn't know" doesn't work here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

these kids are not 7. "sorry i didn't know" doesn't work here.

how would HS athletes know what the MPSSAA rules are?

if said rando (private school) student started attending an mcps class, and the mcps teacher let the rando student attend, violating mcps rules, should the entire class of students be suspended for not reporting the rando student, alongside the teacher? doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

The athletics code of conduct, which is read at each event, requires integrity and sportsmanship. I think it’s a stiff price but not out of bounds. This was terrible conduct.

The code of conduct is read at every event? I'll confess that I only have few MS kids, and my attendance has been limited to football and basketball games at the HS, but I don't recall them ever hushing the crowd and reading the code of conduct over the PA system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

It’s entirely possible that they didn’t know it was against the rules.

+1

These does feel close enough to the 'Tebow' rule/situation that kids could have been confused.

But the real story is that the coach victimized the kids by even putting them in the position to feel anxiety over it, and then they were victimized again when their season was cancelled.

A little mercy/grace for these student athletes is in order

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

these kids are not 7. "sorry i didn't know" doesn't work here.

Absolutely no athlete is going to go against the coaches eligibility ruling. They should not be held accountable for a coach's actions.

I didn't know is does work here. It's not their job to know. It's their job to keep grades up, show up to practice and listen to their coaches.

- not a Wheaton parent

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

these kids are not 7. "sorry i didn't know" doesn't work here.

Absolutely no athlete is going to go against the coaches eligibility ruling. They should not be held accountable for a coach's actions.

I didn't know is does work here. It's not their job to know. It's their job to keep grades up, show up to practice and listen to their coaches.

- not a Wheaton parent

This creates far too much drama and distracts from academics. Another reason why sports belong outside of school.

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

The athletics code of conduct, which is read at each event, requires integrity and sportsmanship. I think it’s a stiff price but not out of bounds. This was terrible conduct.

The code of conduct is read at every event? I'll confess that I only have few MS kids, and my attendance has been limited to football and basketball games at the HS, but I don't recall them ever hushing the crowd and reading the code of conduct over the PA system.

Every single event I’ve ever been to and I go to a lot of events - probably 25 a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Details behind the ineligible student have been revealed: https://moco360.media/2023/02/13/wrestling-season-cancelled-for-wheaton-hs-team-over-a-technicality-parents-say/

The district first paused all wrestling program activities on Jan. 27 after receiving a report that a student athlete unaffiliated with Wheaton had been allowed to compete for the team. This was in violation of MCPS and Maryland Public Secondary Schools Athletic Association (MPSSSAA) rules and regulations.

Wheaton tenth-grader Natalia Lazo said she was in the middle of a tournament at Blair High School when she and her teammate were informed that her entire team had been suspended for an undisclosed reason and that she would have to forfeit the rest of her matches. She said she was both upset and confused by the news.

The resulting MCPS investigation confirmed the initial report, finding that Ellis had allowed a student from a local Jewish day school to sub for one of the team’s regular players who was unavailable at the time, according to communications parents received from the school.

I can't understand why the coach thought putting a non-MCPS student-athlete in as a substitute was a risk worth taking. What a stupid move.

And yet, why punish the entire team? That is incredibly harsh and I hope it gets over turned.

Because they knew it and didn't do anything about it. Like accessory to a crime. I think it was the right call by school officials.

Come on, they were kids.

You expect kids to stand up to their coach, or worse, drop the dime on their coach. That's totally unrealistic.

+1 athletes are taught to follow the coach's lead, not vice versa. it was not incumbent upon the athletes to notify authorities about this matter. i agree this punishment is beyond what is reasonable.

The athletics code of conduct, which is read at each event, requires integrity and sportsmanship. I think it’s a stiff price but not out of bounds. This was terrible conduct.

The code of conduct is read at every event? I'll confess that I only have few MS kids, and my attendance has been limited to football and basketball games at the HS, but I don't recall them ever hushing the crowd and reading the code of conduct over the PA system.

Every single event I’ve ever been to and I go to a lot of events - probably 25 a year.

At what point is it read? I’ve never noticed it