DS’ ultimate height compared to parents’ height

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the formula.

Add the mother's height to the father's height in either inches or centimeters.
Add 5 inches (13 centimeters) for boys or subtract 5 inches (13 centimeters) for girls.
Divide by 2.

Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/expert-answers/child-growth/faq-20057990

Of course, genes can be weird. DD looks like she is going to be taller than DH and me. There is one branch of cousins in my family who are tall. She seems to be taking after them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its a totally guessing game. No way to know. People hear are so hung up their son's height. So many posts about this. Unbelievable.

This. It really is a guessing game. People can share the stories of their family's heights from now until the cows come home, but it doesn't mean anything to your family's genetics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its a totally guessing game. No way to know. People hear are so hung up their son's height. So many posts about this. Unbelievable.

No more hung up them concerns over academics, social life, sleeping/eat habits, etc. If a topic doesn't interest me I simply move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Animal protein and fat. Kids that eat more high quality foods and fewer processed foods are taller. Sadly, children whose families adopt a vegan lifestyle tend to be smaller and shorter than those that do not.

You would think this is true but, I know my cousin is 5'4 and his dad is tall 6'3 but, the son has always been a very pickly eater. And yet he is tall. No matter how much meat my brother ate he was not going to be tall. Genes trump everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Google khamis roche calculator, its the most accurate

that only applies to purely caucasian people.

Khamis Roche method can be applied only to healthy Caucasian children.

https://www.momjunction.com/child-height-predictor/#:~:text=MomJunction%27s%20predict%20child%27s%20future%20height,shorter%20than%20the%20predicted%20estimates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mine is shorter than dad.

Depends how tall dad is too and other family genes. 5-10 is average for a white guy and not tall. Is he 5-11 or 6-4.

That's what makes it so hard to predict. Both sides are all over the place. My sister and I are both around 5'3" and my parents are on the shorter side but our brothers are both 6'. DH is 6'1" with a brother who's on the shorter side. Their parents are above average in height.

DS is 12 and one of the smaller kids in class at 4'10" and 80lbs. Doesn't help that he has an August birthday. Trying to reassure him that he will have a growth spurt.

So he's a 7th grader. In 7th grade he's with some boys who have been 13 for a couple months and may have gone through most of puberty. The variation among the kids is truly wild. It's just a weird pocket in time. Youngest in class plus late puberty can mean shortest in class for a while. But it's a moment in time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine is shorter than dad.

Depends how tall dad is too and other family genes. 5-10 is average for a white guy and not tall. Is he 5-11 or 6-4.

That's what makes it so hard to predict. Both sides are all over the place. My sister and I are both around 5'3" and my parents are on the shorter side but our brothers are both 6'. DH is 6'1" with a brother who's on the shorter side. Their parents are above average in height.

DS is 12 and one of the smaller kids in class at 4'10" and 80lbs. Doesn't help that he has an August birthday. Trying to reassure him that he will have a growth spurt.

So he's a 7th grader. In 7th grade he's with some boys who have been 13 for a couple months and may have gone through most of puberty. The variation among the kids is truly wild. It's just a weird pocket in time. Youngest in class plus late puberty can mean shortest in class for a while. But it's a moment in time.

You are so right and I keep reminding him of that and that his dad was also a later bloomer but he's struggling to see past 'now'. He is a good athlete and really into sports but it hurts my heart when he says things like growing later isn't going to help him now when he's being looked over for certain sports teams or being judged simply because of his size.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine is shorter than dad.

Depends how tall dad is too and other family genes. 5-10 is average for a white guy and not tall. Is he 5-11 or 6-4.

That's what makes it so hard to predict. Both sides are all over the place. My sister and I are both around 5'3" and my parents are on the shorter side but our brothers are both 6'. DH is 6'1" with a brother who's on the shorter side. Their parents are above average in height.

DS is 12 and one of the smaller kids in class at 4'10" and 80lbs. Doesn't help that he has an August birthday. Trying to reassure him that he will have a growth spurt.

Has your DS hit puberty yet, or near to? That will be a tell.

We fit OP's profile. My entire family are super short. DH family mostly super tall.

When DS was 12, he was under 4'10", but he was 97lbs. IMO, your DS is on the very light side, but it could also be because they are not ready to pack on the pounds before the vertical growth. DS was always super skinny till middle school where he packed on the pounds. He got chunky, which he hated. But DH did the same, and told DS that this is normal (for them), and that when they hit puberty, they will stretch out. And yes, this exact thing happened.

DS at 17 is now just shy of 5'10" and super skinny again and was a late bloomer (hit puberty at 15). Pediatrician at last appt said they estimate DS will hit close to 6'. DS growth pattern does not show any slowing down of growth; still on the incline of the growth trajectory. DS was always the shortest in class until he hit 16, then he started growing past the boys who started puberty earlier than him. One of DS friend was the same height as him through ES, then in MS, the friend hit puberty and grew taller than DS, who hadn't hit puberty yet. FFW now that friend who started puberty in MS is several inches shorter than DS and that friend has stopped growing.

IMO, when your DS starts puberty can also be an indication of how tall they might be. Just make sure he's eating enough and getting enough outdoor time, exercise, and sleep* (critical).

This is super helpful. Thank you. DS is not showing any signs of puberty. DH was also a late bloomer. I also heard that it's common to gain weight/pack on pounds before a growth spurt. I guess it's your body's way of preparing!

PP here. DS also had a foot xray when he was like 10 or so because he was complaining for many months of foot pain whenever he ran. The orthopedist (old guy with several kids) immediately suspected "growing pains" because his kids went through the same thing. There is actually a term for this, but I can't recall what it is. I think I read it on this forum once. The scan showed that DS was 1.5 years behind in bone growth compared to his real age. And that tracks with him hitting puberty late.

Both DH and I were also late bloomers. This kind of thing tends to run in the family. So, look at when both parents hit puberty, and when you both hit your growth spurt.

BTW, DS never really had a "spurt". He was like the tortoise, slow but steady growth of averaging 2" per year. I think his spurt was like 3.5" in a year. Not everyone has a dramatic spurt in a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mine is shorter than dad.

Depends how tall dad is too and other family genes. 5-10 is average for a white guy and not tall. Is he 5-11 or 6-4.

That's what makes it so hard to predict. Both sides are all over the place. My sister and I are both around 5'3" and my parents are on the shorter side but our brothers are both 6'. DH is 6'1" with a brother who's on the shorter side. Their parents are above average in height.

DS is 12 and one of the smaller kids in class at 4'10" and 80lbs. Doesn't help that he has an August birthday. Trying to reassure him that he will have a growth spurt.

So he's a 7th grader. In 7th grade he's with some boys who have been 13 for a couple months and may have gone through most of puberty. The variation among the kids is truly wild. It's just a weird pocket in time. Youngest in class plus late puberty can mean shortest in class for a while. But it's a moment in time.

You are so right and I keep reminding him of that and that his dad was also a later bloomer but he's struggling to see past 'now'. He is a good athlete and really into sports but it hurts my heart when he says things like growing later isn't going to help him now when he's being looked over for certain sports teams or being judged simply because of his size.

I'm a PP with a boy with the same issue. Yes, those were tough years. Playing sports became a big issue. The only thing you can do is just keep him active. Unfortunately, life is unfair. You just have to figure out a way to deal with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the formula.

Add the mother's height to the father's height in either inches or centimeters.
Add 5 inches (13 centimeters) for boys or subtract 5 inches (13 centimeters) for girls.
Divide by 2.

Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/expert-answers/child-growth/faq-20057990

That tracks for my son’s growth so far, he’s predicted to be about 5’9” (dad 6’1”, mom 5’) that’s the same height as my brother (parents are 5’2”, 5’11” so formula is the same)

I’ve never seen this formula before, but it tracks very closely with our adult kids’ heights. 5’7” mom and 5’9” dad have 5’10” son and 5’5.5” daughter. But our 14 year old DS is already 6’.

That sounds pretty accurate for my family -- parents 5'4" and 6'2" and three daughters all 5'7" -- but not my sister's -- where she is 5'7" her husband is 5'10" and their daughter is 6'4". Genetics are weird sometimes. I'm really curious to see where my kids end up.

[Anonymous]

I am 5"6". My DH is 5"11" Oldest son is 6.0" our younger son is 6"2" and our daughter is 5"7" I think our children are taller than predicted because they have two grandfathers that are 6"2"

[Anonymous]

I think all the formulas and calculators are stupid because that would mean all male siblings should be about the same height, and all female siblings should be about the same height which rarely happens. I know so many families where the same gender siblings have a 5 inch or greater difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Animal protein and fat. Kids that eat more high quality foods and fewer processed foods are taller. Sadly, children whose families adopt a vegan lifestyle tend to be smaller and shorter than those that do not.

Wow, whole continents of vegans out there. Who knew?

[Anonymous]

Predictions are meaningless. I am 5’7. DH is 5’10. DS is 6’1 and DD is 5’10.

[Anonymous]

Calculator works for my very average sized family.

I'm 5'4, DH is 5'8 (he says), DD is not quite 5'3 and DS is not quite 5'10. My parents are 5'4 and 5'9. DH's parents both 5'4.

I did have one tall grandparent, which is probably why I have a 5'9 sister who has a 6'4" son with her 5'9" husband.