Northeastern Deferred EA students

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Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

In the case of DC, they are looking for colleges in or near a city, where they get both the academic foundation and the type of work experiences to help them get a job (co-op), with a possibility of merit, with some type of campus and school activities, study abroad common and encouraged, where Greek life doesn’t dominate, and maybe selectively (not sure) has some sway. I don’t think there is a huge list of colleges that meet all of those things so I could see both how this wouldn’t appeal to some people but also attract a lot of students that want those things and can’t find many schools that meet them all.

Same for DD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

In the case of DC, they are looking for colleges in or near a city, where they get both the academic foundation and the type of work experiences to help them get a job (co-op), with a possibility of merit, with some type of campus and school activities, study abroad common and encouraged, where Greek life doesn’t dominate, and maybe selectively (not sure) has some sway. I don’t think there is a huge list of colleges that meet all of those things so I could see both how this wouldn’t appeal to some people but also attract a lot of students that want those things and can’t find many schools that meet them all.

Drexel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

In the case of DC, they are looking for colleges in or near a city, where they get both the academic foundation and the type of work experiences to help them get a job (co-op), with a possibility of merit, with some type of campus and school activities, study abroad common and encouraged, where Greek life doesn’t dominate, and maybe selectively (not sure) has some sway. I don’t think there is a huge list of colleges that meet all of those things so I could see both how this wouldn’t appeal to some people but also attract a lot of students that want those things and can’t find many schools that meet them all.

Same for DD

Same. Looked at BU as well snd didn’t like the campus name or the vibe of the tour nearly as well and didn’t apply there. Liked Case Western and wash U but preferred Boston to St Louis or Ohio.

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Bentley, Endicott, Skidmore (tho reputation is stingy with merit), Sarah Lawrence, 7 sisters schools?

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Providence College?

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Fairfield University - 1 hour by commuter train from downtown Fairfield to NYC
New School, in NYC

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Anonymous wrote:DP. Tangent. I'm curious about their retention stats. Aren't they super high? That doesn't seem to jive with the over crowding and bait/switch. I wonder about those stats and if they exclude segments from them. I get that it's a good school , it just doesn't seem to make sense.

Applicant status and Enrolled status are totally different.

Applicants would make ton of complaints when things don't go their way, thus shit talk about the school.

Once they are accepted and enrolled, the school is likely meet or exceed expectations, thus enrolled students are very satisficed, hence the super high retention.

As for the over-crowding, it's temporary due to surge in yield.
Still better than big state schools overall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD just got this email (well it was sent to parents as well) from Northeastern:

Students who were deferred at Early Action have the opportunity to opt-in for consideration at Early Decision II or Regular Decision, or withdraw their application.

EA decisions just came out and my high school senior was deferred. She's decided to apply ED II and include a personal statement about how much she wants to attend NU. It was her first choice but she didn't want to commit in advance, particularly because she's also applied to UMass-Amherst & BU. She was rejected from UMass last week, though to be fair, she applied to the most competitive program there - Computer Science & Data Sciences. She'd still love to attend BU but wants NU much more.

I have two nephews who graduated from NU 2 years ago. One was in high demand & turned down an Ivy engineering program for a full ride (including a semester abroad - not the NU freshman program - & summer labs). The other was offered NU in Program & chose London for his freshman fall. Both of them LOVED NU especially the two coops, and both graduated with full-time jobs.

My nephew who spent freshman fall at NU in London (which at that point, was just like the other NU in Program choices, not a defined NU campus). He's still tight with most of his cohort there - NU keeps that cohort model to help them transition to Boston in the spring. In fact, his current roommates are two guys he met through the London program. My other nephew did a typical semester abroad in Madrid his sophomore year (I think?).

I think the only cruddy option is the NU in Oakland. I'm fingers crossed for our daughter that she'll get in to the NU in Program & go abroad for her first term. Her older brother was admitted to his school for Spring term & loves it, but because of the lack of cohort & no defined program for fall, his experience wasn't at all like that of my nephew. We encouraged him to go abroad for his first fall rather than stay home, take 2 classes (he dropped one) at our state U & work part time.

More and more schools are skipping wait lists and instead offering Spring admissions in a large part because there are a lot of student dropouts or transfers in the first 3 semesters. NU's program accomplishes the same thing only it coincides really nicely for housing & course seats with students leaving Boston for coops. To us, it's very attractive. Our daughter had said on her application that she was interested in NUinP. I think if she'd applied ED instead of EA, she'd have gotten in. I guess we'll find out March 1st if she gets in. She really wants it... I didn't get into my top choice, Stanford, though I wound up at an excellent Ivy and decided not to apply as a transfer student, where admissions rates (& retention) are much higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD just got this email (well it was sent to parents as well) from Northeastern:

Students who were deferred at Early Action have the opportunity to opt-in for consideration at Early Decision II or Regular Decision, or withdraw their application.

We encourage your family to discuss these options together before your student confirms their decision, as Early Decision II applicants may receive a binding admissions decision to one of our enrollment opportunities. While we consider students' responses from their initial application, all students are considered for all avenues for admission.

So Northeastern has a bunch of enrollment opportunities at other locations around the world- you don't actually go to school at the Northeastern Campus, you attend classes elsewhere. And students may not have selected that as a preference (my DD did not) but if she switches to EDII, she is obligated to attend no matter which program she is offered?

You know what this reminds me of? When you are at a wedding with passed hors d'oeuvres, and no one is taking the stuffed mushrooms, and they won't bring out the rest of the appetizers until the stuffed mushrooms get eaten. There must be less desireable programs that they are trying to fill up, by offering a better chance to be "accepted" to Northeastern, but only if you attend these classes at other locations.

You completely misunderstood.
Your kid didn't receive any offer. You kid is in deferred state.
ED II is only binding for your choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

Same - I believe Northeastern used to be a non-competitive commuter school that was able to game the rankings. Since many parents live and die by rankings, they believe that the rank of Northeastern truly defines its quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

In the case of DC, they are looking for colleges in or near a city, where they get both the academic foundation and the type of work experiences to help them get a job (co-op), with a possibility of merit, with some type of campus and school activities, study abroad common and encouraged, where Greek life doesn’t dominate, and maybe selectively (not sure) has some sway. I don’t think there is a huge list of colleges that meet all of those things so I could see both how this wouldn’t appeal to some people but also attract a lot of students that want those things and can’t find many schools that meet them all.

Drexel

- lesser location
- lesser quality of cohort
- lesser everything

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

In the case of DC, they are looking for colleges in or near a city, where they get both the academic foundation and the type of work experiences to help them get a job (co-op), with a possibility of merit, with some type of campus and school activities, study abroad common and encouraged, where Greek life doesn’t dominate, and maybe selectively (not sure) has some sway. I don’t think there is a huge list of colleges that meet all of those things so I could see both how this wouldn’t appeal to some people but also attract a lot of students that want those things and can’t find many schools that meet them all.

Same for DD

Same. Looked at BU as well snd didn’t like the campus name or the vibe of the tour nearly as well and didn’t apply there. Liked Case Western and wash U but preferred Boston to St Louis or Ohio.

Same for DD.
Didn't make the T20ish lottery schools.
Northeastern was basically the next best thing.

[Anonymous]

This whole thing is seeming more and more like a predatory bait and switch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I totally fail to see the appeal of this school.

+1. It genuinely baffles me.

In the case of DC, they are looking for colleges in or near a city, where they get both the academic foundation and the type of work experiences to help them get a job (co-op), with a possibility of merit, with some type of campus and school activities, study abroad common and encouraged, where Greek life doesn’t dominate, and maybe selectively (not sure) has some sway. I don’t think there is a huge list of colleges that meet all of those things so I could see both how this wouldn’t appeal to some people but also attract a lot of students that want those things and can’t find many schools that meet them all.

Drexel

WPI

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Anonymous wrote:Bentley, Endicott, Skidmore (tho reputation is stingy with merit), Sarah Lawrence, 7 sisters schools?

Bentley = great school, business only, no liberal arts or sciences, no engineering or other programs common at a university. Tiny campus not at all in Boston though it's on the T (Boston's elevated city train system)
Skidmore = another terrific but pretty small school; Saratoga Springs isn't near a major city, definitely not at all close to NY
Endicott = strong PE & physical therapy. Otherwise, not at all at the level of these other schools
Sarah Lawrence = Strong school, also small, really hard in terms of competitiveness not in NY but Yonkers is on Metro North & just north of the Bronx. It's all women.
Seven Sisters = Really Five now, since Radcliff was completely absorbed by Harvard & it's nearly the same with Barnard - all classes are at Columbia, degrees are from Columbia, but admissions is separate. For now. All are pretty small (under 3k), no graduate schools (I think?) & are almost entirely liberal arts. While "consortium" programs with larger nearby schools, taking a class at another university is not at all the same experience and in nearly all cases, you cannot MAJOR in programs not offered at one's own school. None except for Barnard are in a major city. Sure Smith is in Northampton which is more a cool college town than a city and it's unfortunately in the middle of nowhere aka Western MA. Bryn Mawr & Wellesly are in suburbs of their cities (Philadelphia & Boston, respectively) - not city in feel, campus, style, etc. though easy to get in and out of their nearby cities.

Also all but Vassar are women's colleges, as is Sarah Lawrence. That is a REALLY tough sell these days.

There are other Boston & Boston-area schools (Harvard, BC is downtown though super $$ & religious, Tufts is on the outskirts & has a gorgeous campus & great grad programs but I've heard a lot of negative things about the undergrad vibe & know several friends' kids who've transferred out, BU was already mentioned, Emerson - TINY, UMass Boston - almost entirely a commuter school though they do have student housing, Suffolk & Sattler (don't know, never heard of), Wentworth (next to NU, great coops & placements, small, engineering & tech only). On the outskirts, I'd also add WPI though it's all engineering, tech, & science but also has a strong coop program & very high/strong post-grad placements. Gorgeous campus in Worcester which is a pretty decent sized city, larger than Providence. 2nd largest city in New England, though that's not saying much - it is larger than New Haven CT.

For NY "right there" 4 year colleges include Baruch, NYU, Columbia, Hunter, and Fordham. My niece LOVED Fordham and her little brother is going there next year, but it's also religious (their parents wanted them to go to a Catholic school). It's safe to say that if someone isn't getting in to NU or unlikely to, then NYU & Columbia are out.

Everything in RI is by definition nearby. Providence College is small & religious. Roger Williams is okay, I take it Brown is out, Bryant (only a handful of programs I think?)... not much.