Co-ops aren’t really a thing for front-office finance. |
I believe there are ton of stuff in between 'doesn't pay well non-profit' and 'front office finance' |
| DC mentioned to me that summer internships are harder to come by this year. He said he and his friends are finding a tight market. Not sure if that helps or not. |
| Does your child really understand how to network? Does he or she have good personal skills? Do they follow-up with thank yous? Do they smile? Speak clearly? Are they humble? All of that matters. |
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Hi, I understand your/his frustrations and can offer some insight. I am a student at a top public university and thought the same thing at first. I would just mass apply to jobs and hope that having X at the top of my resume would get me an interview. That is not how it works. The reason why your university helps in the job/internship hunt isn't because some recruiter is going to pick your resume out of 3,000 and be like wow, he goes to an ivy, he needs an interview. The university matters because of the already established connections that the school and alumni have built with the company. There are two things he needs to do in the next month.
Firstly, there will be a spring career fair and companies will host coffee chats/dinners. He needs to attend as many of those as he can. Those events push your resume to the top of the pile and you will be able to meet recruiters/hiring managers. This is a huge privilege and he should take advantage of that. Secondly, he needs to fix up his linkedin and start messaging alumni at companies he wants to apply to. People love helping their own, especially those from the same "elite" circle. Find as many alumni as he can and write a quick message that goes "Hey, I am a student at X, studying X. I'm interested in X. Would you have a couple minutes to chat about your role." This way he will establish connections and those people will refer him to intern/new grad roles. Send ten of these messages a day and his schedule will soon be booked with zoom calls. Once I sent this message to an alum at a fintech company I was interested in and he literally replied with his # and was like yeah, I'm off work at 6, call me after then and I'd love to chat. This process is really tough, especially in this economy. But, he has a golden ticket as long as he knows how to take advantage of it. I was super lost my first two years, but was able to turn it around by spamming people on linkedin and attending networking events. Now, I spent last summer in the business side of a tech company and will be returning to that company after I graduate next May. |
curious - what is a "financial non-profit"? example please... |
This is the way. 100% |
OP here. He already sent out several hundreds via linkedin since May 2022 and got a few interests but nothing so far. His cousin, who plays golf for University of Florida, already got several offers from top companies without even trying. The athletic alumni reached out to him. His cousin told him, in a joking manner, that DS spent all this time studying to get into Ivies while the cousin did the minimum to get through high school. Now, the cousin has several internship offers while DS does not. I told DS not to give up just yet but the prospect is not looking good for '23. |
Golf troll is back. |
Yeah, there is no way that you can sent several hundred linkedin messages and not get a single offer, especially at an IVY. This just seems like a fake rant. |
+1 Which Ivy ? Is he directing his inquiries to alumni of the same Ivy League school ? If so, he is doing something wrong. |
DD’s friend (sophomore) received seven CS internship offers in the fall/December. |
I’m PP. Yes - the CS internships still seem to be fairly available and fairly generous - e.g he received a signing bonus and had a couple of offers that I know about. |
If real, sounds like whatever DS is sending out reads like SPAM to anyone receiving...how else do you contact hundreds of people via LinkedIn without the message sounding fake/generic. |
| You don’t need an internship. As a hiring manager, I’d much rather see a kid who worked a real job such as waiting tables or camp counselor than doing some nepobaby boondoggle internship. There’s no real value a 21 year-old can offer a company for 3 months. |