Is Maryland a Southern State

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

[Anonymous]

Yes, but Marylanders see themselves as more “sophisticated” Southerners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The US Census says yes, Md is a southern state

https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf

Division 5: South Atlantic
Delaware (10)
District of Columbia (11) Florida (12)
Georgia (13)
Maryland (24)
North Carolina (37) South Carolina (45) Virginia (51)
West Virginia (54)


But Marylanders say no.

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-considered-northern-state-goucher-college-poll/


BALTIMORE, Md. (WJZ) -- Is Maryland more northern or southern? The answer to that question depends on whom you ask, but most Marylanders say it's northern.
That's according to the results of a new Goucher College poll, which shows 65% of residents consider Maryland a northern state, more than double the 27% who view it as a southern state.
While the responses seem fairly cut-and-dried, the state's history is a little bit more complicated.
Maryland actually sits below the Mason-Dixon Line, which divided free states in the north from their slave-owning counterparts in the south during the Civil War era.

But ultimately, the consensus among residents from all walks of life -- regardless of age, gender, race, and political stance -- is that Maryland is a northern state.

Consensus doesn't dictate reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

NY and PA were also slave states at one time. Northern Maryland fought for the union. I believe southern Maryland formed confederate units.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

Maryland is literally called “The Free State”, dummy. There were no slaves. Why do you think it was called The FREE State?

Did you study history at Trump University

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

Maryland is literally called “The Free State”, dummy. There were no slaves. Why do you think it was called The FREE State?

Did you study history at Trump University

Tell that to Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and my ancestor who were enslaved here in Maryland.

Maryland only abolished slavery in 1864. Before that, the peculiar institution was common in most of the state from tobacco farms, fishing, and forestry on the Eastern shore to construction, stevedores, and iron monger if in Baltimore, to even quarries in Northern and Western Maryland. And of course, domestic labor throughout the state.

Slave-owning Marylanders fought on the side of the Confederacy and Lincoln struggled to keep Maryland in the Union so that DC was not surrounded by the enemy. Frederick, MD actually cheered the arrival of Confederate troops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The US Census says yes, Md is a southern state

https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf

Division 5: South Atlantic
Delaware (10)
District of Columbia (11) Florida (12)
Georgia (13)
Maryland (24)
North Carolina (37) South Carolina (45) Virginia (51)
West Virginia (54)


But Marylanders say no.

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-considered-northern-state-goucher-college-poll/


BALTIMORE, Md. (WJZ) -- Is Maryland more northern or southern? The answer to that question depends on whom you ask, but most Marylanders say it's northern.
That's according to the results of a new Goucher College poll, which shows 65% of residents consider Maryland a northern state, more than double the 27% who view it as a southern state.
While the responses seem fairly cut-and-dried, the state's history is a little bit more complicated.
Maryland actually sits below the Mason-Dixon Line, which divided free states in the north from their slave-owning counterparts in the south during the Civil War era.

But ultimately, the consensus among residents from all walks of life -- regardless of age, gender, race, and political stance -- is that Maryland is a northern state.

I don’t consider it to be a Northern state at all. It’s in the middle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

Maryland is literally called “The Free State”, dummy. There were no slaves. Why do you think it was called The FREE State?

Did you study history at Trump University

Tell that to Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and my ancestor who were enslaved here in Maryland.

Maryland only abolished slavery in 1864. Before that, the peculiar institution was common in most of the state from tobacco farms, fishing, and forestry on the Eastern shore to construction, stevedores, and iron monger if in Baltimore, to even quarries in Northern and Western Maryland. And of course, domestic labor throughout the state.

Slave-owning Marylanders fought on the side of the Confederacy and Lincoln struggled to keep Maryland in the Union so that DC was not surrounded by the enemy. Frederick, MD actually cheered the arrival of Confederate troops.

+1. Maryland didn’t secede because Lincoln jailed those who would have voted to secede. It was a border state during the civil war. I don’t really think it counts as southern today, though.

[Anonymous]

I'm original from out west and don't think of MD as a "southern state". I get that it is below the Mason Dixon line, but in the past 70 years, it's not had the same reputation and culture as other southern states.

I definitely consider VA to be southern, though.

I think a lot of people from out west and NE see MD as the line between north and south. Anecdotal, obviously, but even a lot of MDers don't consider it a southern state.

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-considered-northern-state-goucher-college-poll/

I think MD is like Switzerland -- it has cultures from the neighbors around it because it's such a small state it absorbs the cultures from the larger states surrounding it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

Maryland is literally called “The Free State”, dummy. There were no slaves. Why do you think it was called The FREE State?

Did you study history at Trump University

Not sure where you got that information. Here’s the official history of that, and it’s got nothing to do with slavery.
https://www.visitmaryland.org/info/maryland-facts

And Maryland absolutely was a slave state.

[Anonymous]

Even looking at a map, it's obvious that Maryland is smack in the middle. I would go a step further to say that North Carolina is where the south begins if I were simply looking at a Map.

[Anonymous]

The Eastern Shore is like Alabama. Western Maryland is part of Pennsyltucky. Baltimore is the most ghetto city on the East Coast. And the DC suburbs of Maryland have been losing ground economically to NoVa for decades.

Whether Maryland as a whole is a “Southern State” or not should be the least of your concerns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Eastern Shore is like Alabama. Western Maryland is part of Pennsyltucky. Baltimore is the most ghetto city on the East Coast. And the DC suburbs of Maryland have been losing ground economically to NoVa for decades.

Whether Maryland as a whole is a “Southern State” or not should be the least of your concerns.

I was waiting for the NoVa booster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even looking at a map, it's obvious that Maryland is smack in the middle. I would go a step further to say that North Carolina is where the south begins if I were simply looking at a Map.

no way. VA is southern. It's not about what's halfway in between, but about the culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it's a Mid-Atlantic state. So sick of the outdated Mason Dixon argument.

Because Maryland was a slave state?

Maryland is literally called “The Free State”, dummy. There were no slaves. Why do you think it was called The FREE State?

Did you study history at Trump University

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