Has anyone tried nutrisense or a CGM system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This came across my facebook feed, and while I normally ignore ads this was intriguing. A glucose monitor that connects to an app and helps you shift you diet. It's crazy expensive $200-350/month, but I find the idea interesting. I think I would make better choices if I had more concrete information at my fingertips, and explanations for why what I am eating is impacting how I feel. It would be interesting to see the numbers.

I have about 10-15 lbs to lose. I hate dieting and the tracking and work it entails. I always lose motivation. I wonder if something like this might work...?

You don't need an app or CGM to know how certain food will impact your body. It is not rocket science that carbs and sugar will cause an insulin spike. that is literally how your body is supposed to respond. Eat carbs- body releases insulin to break them down.

At the end of the day losing weight comes down to one thing... burn more calories than you consume= fat loss, burn fewer calories than you consume and your body will store that energy for later use in the form of fat.

Fat loss is over complicated because we all all looking for a magic solution and it's hard to sell "eat less move more" and make money. So they keep trying to make it complicate to sell you something. This is why the diet industry is a billion dollar a year industry and we are still fat.

Overly simplistic, moralistic, and demonstrably inaccurate. What CGMs tell you is that not everybody reacts to foods or combinations the same way. For example, oatmeal is meant to be low-glycemic due to its soluble fiber. But guess what? It shoots my blood sugar through the roof. Popcorn, on the other hand, does not. All bodies are not the same and “eAt LEss MoVE mORe” does not provide anyone information about their own particular body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

[Anonymous]

People trying to hoard or gatekeep this technology really need therapy to understand their issues with self image, scarcity…whatever is motivating their illogical selfish impulse. Thankfully the medical community disagrees with your bizarre zero sum worldview!

I have pcos. I inherited that predisposition and spent the first two decades of my life being told to eat low fat and many times per day. A CGM cut through all the noise. It taught me, with precision, how long I can fast without experiencing reactive hypoglycemia. It allows me to eat a much broader range of foods by providing information on how my body reacts to differently staggered foods. It is a key tool in preventing me from dying of a heart attack while my children is small.

This is *not* a west cost biohacker thing. Casey Means, the doc behind Levels, said that the press likes to focus on that bro fitness aspect but close to half of her users are women with PCOS getting accurate info for the first time. I don’t use Levels but they are a great resource.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I think that seeing the impact of crappy foods in numerical form will be motivating. It's a lot more immediate than stepping on a scale once a week!

I’m prediabetic and a CGM was very helpful to me - learning how my body reacts to particular foods was valuable information. Learning by itself doesn’t help you, but it gives you actionable information; it’s up to you to act on it.

Look up Tastermonial if all you want is the CGM without the program. It’s a fraction of the cost.

Huge eyeroll to the diabetics sneering at those who are using technology to get healthier. There’s no shortage of CGMs. Nobody is threatening your supply. Get over yourself. I’ve got celiac disease and I welcome non-celiacs who choose gluten-free food; they expand the market and help to normalize it. Diabetics should feel the same about non-diabetics using CGMs.

Abbott is, incidentally, working on a CGM specifically targeted towards non-diabetics. The programs that use the diabetic version off label are just jumping the gun a bit.

OP, use whatever technology you need to improve your health and don’t let internet hecklers make you feel bad about it for one second. You’ve got one body, care for it!

DP. There aren't a lot of CGMs and generally they are cost-prohibitive and not covered by insurance (Dexcom) for most T2 and for some T1 diabetics. For rich people who are blood sugar curious to go buy a CGM is offensive since the technology is so valuable for diabetics but is so unobtainable for so many. The Freestyle Libre is less expensive for exactly this reason and for these people.

Uh, literally all of these programs use the Libre, not Dexcom. Also, the greater the demand, the lower the eventual price. Rich people aren’t the reason CGMs are expensive, ffs.

If these programs all use the Libre, then they're not going to lower the price of the Dexcom. They're just going to go ahead and use a CGM while diabetics can't get one.

Go ahead - if it helps you lose weight, then it's money well spent for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

I hear that you want to keep CGMs as your personal badge of suffering, but it’s 2022. Diabetics don’t own CGMs and it’s odd that you’d want to. Your pain is valid even if you’re not the only person in the room with a piece of plastic stuck to your arm. I promise.

And as for “vanity pounds” that’s also a weird take. We’ve got people on this thread with PCOS and prediabetes. Vanity is not the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: People trying to hoard or gatekeep this technology really need therapy to understand their issues with self image, scarcity…whatever is motivating their illogical selfish impulse. Thankfully the medical community disagrees with your bizarre zero sum worldview!

I have pcos. I inherited that predisposition and spent the first two decades of my life being told to eat low fat and many times per day. A CGM cut through all the noise. It taught me, with precision, how long I can fast without experiencing reactive hypoglycemia. It allows me to eat a much broader range of foods by providing information on how my body reacts to differently staggered foods. It is a key tool in preventing me from dying of a heart attack while my children is small.

This is *not* a west cost biohacker thing. Casey Means, the doc behind Levels, said that the press likes to focus on that bro fitness aspect but close to half of her users are women with PCOS getting accurate info for the first time. I don’t use Levels but they are a great resource.

OP wants to use a CGM to lose 10-15 pounds. Not manage a medical condition like PCOS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

I hear that you want to keep CGMs as your personal badge of suffering, but it’s 2022. Diabetics don’t own CGMs and it’s odd that you’d want to. Your pain is valid even if you’re not the only person in the room with a piece of plastic stuck to your arm. I promise.

And as for “vanity pounds” that’s also a weird take. We’ve got people on this thread with PCOS and prediabetes. Vanity is not the issue.

Wow, you’re a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: People trying to hoard or gatekeep this technology really need therapy to understand their issues with self image, scarcity…whatever is motivating their illogical selfish impulse. Thankfully the medical community disagrees with your bizarre zero sum worldview!

I have pcos. I inherited that predisposition and spent the first two decades of my life being told to eat low fat and many times per day. A CGM cut through all the noise. It taught me, with precision, how long I can fast without experiencing reactive hypoglycemia. It allows me to eat a much broader range of foods by providing information on how my body reacts to differently staggered foods. It is a key tool in preventing me from dying of a heart attack while my children is small.

This is *not* a west cost biohacker thing. Casey Means, the doc behind Levels, said that the press likes to focus on that bro fitness aspect but close to half of her users are women with PCOS getting accurate info for the first time. I don’t use Levels but they are a great resource.

OP wants to use a CGM to lose 10-15 pounds. Not manage a medical condition like PCOS.

I’m not OP but was told to lose 7% of my body weight to reduce my chances of converting to diabetes. That was 13 lbs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

I hear that you want to keep CGMs as your personal badge of suffering, but it’s 2022. Diabetics don’t own CGMs and it’s odd that you’d want to. Your pain is valid even if you’re not the only person in the room with a piece of plastic stuck to your arm. I promise.

And as for “vanity pounds” that’s also a weird take. We’ve got people on this thread with PCOS and prediabetes. Vanity is not the issue.

DP. If people with PCOS and prediabetes want to lose weight via blood sugar knowledge (and cure their PCOS and prediabetes), they can test and stick their fingers every half hour post-prandial. No CGM needed, just a blood glucose meter, a watch and a piece of paper or an app on the phone. Speaking from experience. I did it. I can give you a recommendation for a cheap, accurate meter and test strips, too (GE).

Guess that's too low-tech though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

I hear that you want to keep CGMs as your personal badge of suffering, but it’s 2022. Diabetics don’t own CGMs and it’s odd that you’d want to. Your pain is valid even if you’re not the only person in the room with a piece of plastic stuck to your arm. I promise.

And as for “vanity pounds” that’s also a weird take. We’ve got people on this thread with PCOS and prediabetes. Vanity is not the issue.

I was specifically responding to OP, who just wants to lose 10-15 pounds and is bad at dieting and thinks the CGM will magically help her lose it. She does not mention any medical conditions like PCOS. That’s why I said people using it to lose vanity pounds is vaguely offensive, not “people using it to manage any condition that isn’t diabetes” is vaguely offensive. Not sure why you’re so defensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This came across my facebook feed, and while I normally ignore ads this was intriguing. A glucose monitor that connects to an app and helps you shift you diet. It's crazy expensive $200-350/month, but I find the idea interesting. I think I would make better choices if I had more concrete information at my fingertips, and explanations for why what I am eating is impacting how I feel. It would be interesting to see the numbers.

I have about 10-15 lbs to lose. I hate dieting and the tracking and work it entails. I always lose motivation. I wonder if something like this might work...?

You don't need an app or CGM to know how certain food will impact your body. It is not rocket science that carbs and sugar will cause an insulin spike. that is literally how your body is supposed to respond. Eat carbs- body releases insulin to break them down.

At the end of the day losing weight comes down to one thing... burn more calories than you consume= fat loss, burn fewer calories than you consume and your body will store that energy for later use in the form of fat.

Fat loss is over complicated because we all all looking for a magic solution and it's hard to sell "eat less move more" and make money. So they keep trying to make it complicate to sell you something. This is why the diet industry is a billion dollar a year industry and we are still fat.

Overly simplistic, moralistic, and demonstrably inaccurate. What CGMs tell you is that not everybody reacts to foods or combinations the same way. For example, oatmeal is meant to be low-glycemic due to its soluble fiber. But guess what? It shoots my blood sugar through the roof. Popcorn, on the other hand, does not. All bodies are not the same and “eAt LEss MoVE mORe” does not provide anyone information about their own particular body.

unless you are diabetic sugar spikes do not matter.

have you ever seen a fat person walk out of a concentration camp?

If you reduce calories you lose weight. It really is that simple. But people don't want simple. they like to believe they are complex. It allows them to keep believing they are incapable of losing weight and need some highly specific, expensive diet plan to lose weight. So they keep searching, and spending, and searching, and spending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This came across my facebook feed, and while I normally ignore ads this was intriguing. A glucose monitor that connects to an app and helps you shift you diet. It's crazy expensive $200-350/month, but I find the idea interesting. I think I would make better choices if I had more concrete information at my fingertips, and explanations for why what I am eating is impacting how I feel. It would be interesting to see the numbers.

I have about 10-15 lbs to lose. I hate dieting and the tracking and work it entails. I always lose motivation. I wonder if something like this might work...?

You don't need an app or CGM to know how certain food will impact your body. It is not rocket science that carbs and sugar will cause an insulin spike. that is literally how your body is supposed to respond. Eat carbs- body releases insulin to break them down.

At the end of the day losing weight comes down to one thing... burn more calories than you consume= fat loss, burn fewer calories than you consume and your body will store that energy for later use in the form of fat.

Fat loss is over complicated because we all all looking for a magic solution and it's hard to sell "eat less move more" and make money. So they keep trying to make it complicate to sell you something. This is why the diet industry is a billion dollar a year industry and we are still fat.

Overly simplistic, moralistic, and demonstrably inaccurate. What CGMs tell you is that not everybody reacts to foods or combinations the same way. For example, oatmeal is meant to be low-glycemic due to its soluble fiber. But guess what? It shoots my blood sugar through the roof. Popcorn, on the other hand, does not. All bodies are not the same and “eAt LEss MoVE mORe” does not provide anyone information about their own particular body.

unless you are diabetic sugar spikes do not matter.

have you ever seen a fat person walk out of a concentration camp?

If you reduce calories you lose weight. It really is that simple. But people don't want simple. they like to believe they are complex. It allows them to keep believing they are incapable of losing weight and need some highly specific, expensive diet plan to lose weight. So they keep searching, and spending, and searching, and spending.

You're right but this concept is revolutionary, mind-blowing, unfathomable to an average internet-user.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

I hear that you want to keep CGMs as your personal badge of suffering, but it’s 2022. Diabetics don’t own CGMs and it’s odd that you’d want to. Your pain is valid even if you’re not the only person in the room with a piece of plastic stuck to your arm. I promise.

And as for “vanity pounds” that’s also a weird take. We’ve got people on this thread with PCOS and prediabetes. Vanity is not the issue.

Sure, they could, but they don’t have to do so. They can do it however they like.

DP. If people with PCOS and prediabetes want to lose weight via blood sugar knowledge (and cure their PCOS and prediabetes), they can test and stick their fingers every half hour post-prandial. No CGM needed, just a blood glucose meter, a watch and a piece of paper or an app on the phone. Speaking from experience. I did it. I can give you a recommendation for a cheap, accurate meter and test strips, too (GE).

Guess that's too low-tech though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This came across my facebook feed, and while I normally ignore ads this was intriguing. A glucose monitor that connects to an app and helps you shift you diet. It's crazy expensive $200-350/month, but I find the idea interesting. I think I would make better choices if I had more concrete information at my fingertips, and explanations for why what I am eating is impacting how I feel. It would be interesting to see the numbers.

I have about 10-15 lbs to lose. I hate dieting and the tracking and work it entails. I always lose motivation. I wonder if something like this might work...?

You don't need an app or CGM to know how certain food will impact your body. It is not rocket science that carbs and sugar will cause an insulin spike. that is literally how your body is supposed to respond. Eat carbs- body releases insulin to break them down.

At the end of the day losing weight comes down to one thing... burn more calories than you consume= fat loss, burn fewer calories than you consume and your body will store that energy for later use in the form of fat.

Fat loss is over complicated because we all all looking for a magic solution and it's hard to sell "eat less move more" and make money. So they keep trying to make it complicate to sell you something. This is why the diet industry is a billion dollar a year industry and we are still fat.

Overly simplistic, moralistic, and demonstrably inaccurate. What CGMs tell you is that not everybody reacts to foods or combinations the same way. For example, oatmeal is meant to be low-glycemic due to its soluble fiber. But guess what? It shoots my blood sugar through the roof. Popcorn, on the other hand, does not. All bodies are not the same and “eAt LEss MoVE mORe” does not provide anyone information about their own particular body.

unless you are diabetic sugar spikes do not matter.

have you ever seen a fat person walk out of a concentration camp?

If you reduce calories you lose weight. It really is that simple. But people don't want simple. they like to believe they are complex. It allows them to keep believing they are incapable of losing weight and need some highly specific, expensive diet plan to lose weight. So they keep searching, and spending, and searching, and spending.

Your smug ignorance is unbearable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Utterly ridiculous and as a type 1 diabetic I find it vaguely offensive.

What, specifically, offends you? The price? It is high. I’m trying to pinpoint what can be offensive in this offering. Also T1D.

Successfully managing type 1 diabetes (keeping glucose mostly in a range that won’t cause devastating health problems) is essentially a full time job. It is not easy, it’s constant monitoring and adjusting and decision making and there are no breaks or days off. I’ve been doing it all day every day for 30 years, since I was 10 years old. Now that the technology is advanced and convenient enough to make attractive to take on as a pet project for the sake of vanity pounds is just…ugh. Like whatever, do what you want, no one can or should stop you but I’m going to give you a side eye.

Yes, you and lots of other people spent a lifetime managing your T1D. I’m sorry it made you bitter and miserable. I mean, just ugh, right? How dare someone without diabetes try a CGM when you had it so rough?