Where to seek sanctuary if you are terrified of local progressives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard Tanger Island is a great haven for special snowflakes who don’t believe in climate change. It may be underwater soon but you should take your chances!

There's being concerned about climate change, but then there is being a completely nanny state...like telling people what they can and cannot do in terms of things like cooking with gas stoves, which MoCo progressives want to completely ban. Any semblance of common sense and moderation has been lost in MoCo. It's also extremely racist to tell people they cannot cook with gas, as that assumes everyone typically cooks in a western, European style of cooking, which is, ironically, nothing more than ethnocentrism. So much progress will end up killing the county.

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Someone sounds #triggered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Frederick Maryland is nice

Please don't come to Frederick. We are very progressive here.

+1 thank you, took the words from my mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where would you consider moving to in this region if you are very disturbed and scared of local progressive taking over your local govt? I am extremely troubled by the developments in MoCo. Businesses and jobs are fleeing and/or not even considering MoCo anymore. Crime is rising because of the progressive criminal justice reforms. I fear that crime will continue to rise, school quality will get worse, and as the tax base heads for the doors the county's progressives' only solutions ever will be to try to raise taxes on residents to stop the bleeding in terms of the budget as revenues will inevitably decline. Where would you go to escape this same fiasco for replaying over again if you were considering relocating? It is basically impossible to push back with common sense legislation, ideas, and candidates. The county is so far gone in terms of one-sided echo chamber rule that I think there is no more hope left of ever saving this sinking ship. Terrified of all of these progressives and how much they threaten the equity we have vested in our home as well. Their other initiative is basically to ruin all SFHs via Thrive MoCo 2050. What a disaster in the works. Where can we go to transfer the equity of our home and save ourselves from likely huge tax increases to fund their agendas?

You are terrified? Of what? Humanity?
Please, take the next train, plane, or automobile (or auto train!) to Florida. ASAP. They are waiting for you.

[Anonymous]

Seek sanctuary?

You should be off the grid in Oregon or Idaho. You won't have close-by neighbors, but the ones I know populating those areas will welcome you.

[Anonymous]

The Villages might be a good option if you are over 55.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frederick Maryland is nice

Please don't come to Frederick. We are very progressive here.

That’s funny.

[Anonymous]

Is OP dumb? There are 50 states in this country. Pick a red one. It's not hard. Or even within states there are red counties. Most rural counties that are run down and poor are deep red. OP might prefer those. Whatever you do, don't move to a major city, even in a red state, because ALL major metro areas are blue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frederick Maryland is nice

Please don't come to Frederick. We are very progressive here.

That’s funny.

You don't live in Frederick, I assume. Sit down, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where would you consider moving to in this region if you are very disturbed and scared of local progressive taking over your local govt? I am extremely troubled by the developments in MoCo. Businesses and jobs are fleeing and/or not even considering MoCo anymore. Crime is rising because of the progressive criminal justice reforms. I fear that crime will continue to rise, school quality will get worse, and as the tax base heads for the doors the county's progressives' only solutions ever will be to try to raise taxes on residents to stop the bleeding in terms of the budget as revenues will inevitably decline. Where would you go to escape this same fiasco for replaying over again if you were considering relocating? It is basically impossible to push back with common sense legislation, ideas, and candidates. The county is so far gone in terms of one-sided echo chamber rule that I think there is no more hope left of ever saving this sinking ship. Terrified of all of these progressives and how much they threaten the equity we have vested in our home as well. Their other initiative is basically to ruin all SFHs via Thrive MoCo 2050. What a disaster in the works. Where can we go to transfer the equity of our home and save ourselves from likely huge tax increases to fund their agendas?

You are terrified? Of what? Humanity?
Please, take the next train, plane, or automobile (or auto train!) to Florida. ASAP. They are waiting for you.

No, it's logical to be terrified of progressive politics that will inevitably lead to more crime. We are already seeing in MoCo everyday. Carjackings, shootings, vandalism, assaults, home invasions, and murders are all up. Members of the new council are extreme anti-police types who propose asinine ideas likes community intervention specialists that will some how magically prevent crime. We all know the predictable will happen as crime will sky rocket up now that the county has no repercussions for committing crime, and no one on the streets to actually enforce the laws. People will flee high crime, schools will deteriorate, and then property values will go down. It starts snowballing with crime.

And one doesn't even have to consider greedy motivations like property values. I'm terrified of progressives because you now have to be more scared that you will become a victim of crime since there are no more consequences for criminals. Physical and bodily harm is absolutely something to be concerned about. Gangs are running rampant in MoCo. Shootings in areas like DTSS are absolutely out of control. MoCo is literally turning into Baltimore in terms of crime and quality of schools.

[Anonymous]

If the high income earners are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many $1mil+ condo/TH opening up hear me in MoCo. Who the heck is buying up these expensive homes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the high income earners are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many $1mil+ condo/TH opening up hear me in MoCo. Who the heck is buying up these expensive homes?

They are fleeing:

https://harpswellstrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Post-Pandemic-Economic-Leadership-for-Montgomery-County.pdf

Montgomery County failed to capture its pre-2007 share of regional job growth, leading to a cumulative impact of more than 14,000 high quality jobs in key industry sectors that chose to locate elsewhere in the region.

From the 1st quarter of 2016 through the 3rd quarter of 2020 (most recent data available), Fairfax County gained more jobs and gained jobs at a faster rate than Montgomery County in the research and development in the physical, engineering, and life sciences industry.

Montgomery County actually lost private business establishments from 2007 to 2019, while in the rest of Maryland the number of private establishments increased by 6.9%. During that period, private establishments in Fairfax County increased by 12.5%, in the District of Columbia private establishments increased by 21.6%, and in Arlington County private establishments increased by 21.9%.

Montgomery County’s neighbors are offering large incentives to employers on the move and to spur development. For example, Virginia offered Microsoft $22.5 million to move 1,500 jobs to Reston ($15,000 per job). This is well above the recent Montgomery County/State of Maryland combined award of approximately $11,700 per job. Given that businesses in Maryland must also overcome significant structural disadvantages (e.g., local piggyback income tax, higher corporate taxes, etc.), these awards are well below the level that would be necessary to incentivize a business to choose a Montgomery County location rather than a comparable location in Northern Virginia.

MoCo is already losing to other parts of Maryland itself. PG is now creating more jobs than MoCo. Look, if you are going to have high crime and crappy schools, then at least drop the taxes. Of course that doesn't happen in MoCo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the high income earners are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many $1mil+ condo/TH opening up hear me in MoCo. Who the heck is buying up these expensive homes?

They are fleeing:

https://harpswellstrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Post-Pandemic-Economic-Leadership-for-Montgomery-County.pdf

Montgomery County failed to capture its pre-2007 share of regional job growth, leading to a cumulative impact of more than 14,000 high quality jobs in key industry sectors that chose to locate elsewhere in the region.

From the 1st quarter of 2016 through the 3rd quarter of 2020 (most recent data available), Fairfax County gained more jobs and gained jobs at a faster rate than Montgomery County in the research and development in the physical, engineering, and life sciences industry.

Montgomery County actually lost private business establishments from 2007 to 2019, while in the rest of Maryland the number of private establishments increased by 6.9%. During that period, private establishments in Fairfax County increased by 12.5%, in the District of Columbia private establishments increased by 21.6%, and in Arlington County private establishments increased by 21.9%.

Montgomery County’s neighbors are offering large incentives to employers on the move and to spur development. For example, Virginia offered Microsoft $22.5 million to move 1,500 jobs to Reston ($15,000 per job). This is well above the recent Montgomery County/State of Maryland combined award of approximately $11,700 per job. Given that businesses in Maryland must also overcome significant structural disadvantages (e.g., local piggyback income tax, higher corporate taxes, etc.), these awards are well below the level that would be necessary to incentivize a business to choose a Montgomery County location rather than a comparable location in Northern Virginia.

MoCo is already losing to other parts of Maryland itself. PG is now creating more jobs than MoCo. Look, if you are going to have high crime and crappy schools, then at least drop the taxes. Of course that doesn't happen in MoCo.

I see you have reading comprehension issues. I'll repeat:

If the high income earners are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many $1mil+ condo/TH opening up near me in MoCo. Who the heck is buying up these expensive homes? I wfh, and every so often when I go run an errand I see all these new builds everywhere. It's crazy. Developers aren't building these expensive homes out of the goodness of their hearts. These are pretty expensive TH and condos.

So, again, if UMC people are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many new builds of expensive homes?

[Anonymous]

PE buying them and turning them into rentals, foo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the high income earners are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many $1mil+ condo/TH opening up hear me in MoCo. Who the heck is buying up these expensive homes?

They are fleeing:

https://harpswellstrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Post-Pandemic-Economic-Leadership-for-Montgomery-County.pdf

Montgomery County failed to capture its pre-2007 share of regional job growth, leading to a cumulative impact of more than 14,000 high quality jobs in key industry sectors that chose to locate elsewhere in the region.

From the 1st quarter of 2016 through the 3rd quarter of 2020 (most recent data available), Fairfax County gained more jobs and gained jobs at a faster rate than Montgomery County in the research and development in the physical, engineering, and life sciences industry.

Montgomery County actually lost private business establishments from 2007 to 2019, while in the rest of Maryland the number of private establishments increased by 6.9%. During that period, private establishments in Fairfax County increased by 12.5%, in the District of Columbia private establishments increased by 21.6%, and in Arlington County private establishments increased by 21.9%.

Montgomery County’s neighbors are offering large incentives to employers on the move and to spur development. For example, Virginia offered Microsoft $22.5 million to move 1,500 jobs to Reston ($15,000 per job). This is well above the recent Montgomery County/State of Maryland combined award of approximately $11,700 per job. Given that businesses in Maryland must also overcome significant structural disadvantages (e.g., local piggyback income tax, higher corporate taxes, etc.), these awards are well below the level that would be necessary to incentivize a business to choose a Montgomery County location rather than a comparable location in Northern Virginia.

MoCo is already losing to other parts of Maryland itself. PG is now creating more jobs than MoCo. Look, if you are going to have high crime and crappy schools, then at least drop the taxes. Of course that doesn't happen in MoCo.

I see you have reading comprehension issues. I'll repeat:

If the high income earners are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many $1mil+ condo/TH opening up near me in MoCo. Who the heck is buying up these expensive homes? I wfh, and every so often when I go run an errand I see all these new builds everywhere. It's crazy. Developers aren't building these expensive homes out of the goodness of their hearts. These are pretty expensive TH and condos.

So, again, if UMC people are "fleeing" MoCo, why are there so many new builds of expensive homes?

I see you are conflating all sorts anti-developer sentiment and huge inefficient bureaucracy with actual free market economics and high prices. Lol, when you create artificial shortages because of crappy county execs like Elrich, of course prices are high.

San Francisco also has high housing costs, but that doesn't change the fact that they're hemorrhaging people trying to escape the suffocating progressivism that has ruined SF.

[Anonymous]

I get what you're saying OP. You're probably looking for moderate .. not red and not stuck with ultra-progressive policies like MoCo. I'd say if you don't want to stray too far, look at Frederick or even Washington County. Both are a straight shot up 270/70 though of course traffic can bad since... MoCo just last week opposed the governor's plan to widen it and forced another delay.

Look at communities like Middletown or Boonsboro if you want family-friendly.