More Alexandria crime - teen critically stabbed at Bradlee McDonalds

[Anonymous]

This happened in the middle of the day. The students were supposed to be in school and were not (they went to school and then left the building).

How can 30, 40, 50, more students leave a building and you as a school do nothing about it?

Who will get fired and how quickly will it happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This happened in the middle of the day. The students were supposed to be in school and were not (they went to school and then left the building).

How can 30, 40, 50, more students leave a building and you as a school do nothing about it?

Who will get fired and how quickly will it happen?

A lot of 9th graders have to leave the buildings as they have classes at ACHS and MH and walk back and forth. I also thought they were allowed to leave campus for lunch? That actually seems like a stupid privilege to me and should not be allowed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. A student is murdered during the school day when SOLs are taking place and you are glad that it's not a gun and a knife? A child is dead. I'm an ACPS parent of two students and I live walking distance to ACHS. I am WFH today and I am absolutely heartbroken and sick. This could be any of our children. If you think as a bystander they couldn't be shot or stabbed, you are wrong. Yes, it appears to be certain kids, maybe involved in crime or not, but a child is dead. We need to enact some common sense policies so this doesn't happen again. Thoughts and prayers are not enough. G-d watch over and protect this child's parents and family.

1) most stabbings aren’t fatal.
2) knives reduce the possibility that an innocent bystander will be killed

You’ll never, ever, ever stop people from killing each other, but if you can keep the means which they do it from being something that can accidentally kill bystanders, then that’s a net-positive. People are always going to kill each other. But at least with a knife or other close range weapon, they won’t inadvertently kill someone many feet or more away.

[Anonymous]

First off, please donate to the victim's family and help them bury and memorialize their son. Second, we need to make sure that both the city of Alexandria and ACPS have interventions so that kids are too busy with sports, activities, places other than McDs and the McDs parking lot. Teachers said that they have been breaking up fights with these two groups of kids all year. I wonder how long this has been going on and why we aren't investing more in our community? DC has a jobs program. Help these kids get jobs and apprenticeships if they are not interested in sports and extracurriculars. We need a community facilitation where these two groups resolve differences. Someone lost his life. This is where we need to put our actions before our words. And let's not circulate rumors on the internet about a child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First off, please donate to the victim's family and help them bury and memorialize their son. Second, we need to make sure that both the city of Alexandria and ACPS have interventions so that kids are too busy with sports, activities, places other than McDs and the McDs parking lot. Teachers said that they have been breaking up fights with these two groups of kids all year. I wonder how long this has been going on and why we aren't investing more in our community? DC has a jobs program. Help these kids get jobs and apprenticeships if they are not interested in sports and extracurriculars. We need a community facilitation where these two groups resolve differences. Someone lost his life. This is where we need to put our actions before our words. And let's not circulate rumors on the internet about a child.

What two groups would that be?

NP here. According to my DC, there were two groups of hispanic gangs and their friends. It seemed to be a planned "meet-up" to fight. There also happened to be a group of non related kids (a sports team) who were at the smoothie place who came over to see what was going on.

There are several videos being circulated and wjla seems to be publishing many. It is a chaotic mess with people jumping and spinning around, and in one case one male is hitting another male and someone off camera tells him to stop "no not him" and then the puncher says "opps, my bad". There are only 2 police officers there (probably because the initial call was just for a fight).

Gangs are a real, serious problem. That's where you have a major problem.

I saw that video and it looked like bored kids who went over to "fight" but didn't have real intentions of true actual violent harm like stabbing. I am not saying that makes it better but I am saying it seems that some kids showed up to mess around and someone pulled a knife and it was unexpected/uintended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This happened in the middle of the day. The students were supposed to be in school and were not (they went to school and then left the building).

How can 30, 40, 50, more students leave a building and you as a school do nothing about it?

Who will get fired and how quickly will it happen?

A lot of 9th graders have to leave the buildings as they have classes at ACHS and MH and walk back and forth. I also thought they were allowed to leave campus for lunch? That actually seems like a stupid privilege to me and should not be allowed

There is no open campus lunch. Kids travel between MH and the main campus for classes. Also, that was an SOL testing day, and there is utter chaos and confusion about when kids are allowed to leave after they're done. Testing was a hot mess last year and again this year.

[Anonymous]

How is this school rated in academics

[Anonymous]

Here is a recent article re a vigil by friends of the victim at Bradlee where they smoked pot and drank tequila. The teens complain the police officer didn't shoot his gun to break up the fight, the commercial tenants complain their customers now avoid Bradlee at certain hours and in the article photo the kids are flashing what I think is the 18th Street signal.

I believe the article was very poorly written but I am still in shock at what it does say and show.

https://www.alxnow.com/2022/05/27/friends-of-victim-say-police-didnt-do-enough-to-prevent-fatal-stabbing-at-bradlee-shopping-center/?fbclid=IwAR1e-GowiHU7-nnDRaIDImTHfTDZqSwY5Z79s3p9-g6_VgxkoMDIo9nW2Ak

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. A student is murdered during the school day when SOLs are taking place and you are glad that it's not a gun and a knife? A child is dead. I'm an ACPS parent of two students and I live walking distance to ACHS. I am WFH today and I am absolutely heartbroken and sick. This could be any of our children. If you think as a bystander they couldn't be shot or stabbed, you are wrong. Yes, it appears to be certain kids, maybe involved in crime or not, but a child is dead. We need to enact some common sense policies so this doesn't happen again. Thoughts and prayers are not enough. G-d watch over and protect this child's parents and family.

Bystanders are not randomly stabbed. Would your kid stick around at this McDonalds once they arrived and saw 40 other people there, several of whom I am sure your kid could identify as troublemakers? I hope the hell NOT. This was not random. These people all knew each other. What exactly the background is, I don't know. But this is a far cry from random violence. This is troubled kids fighting each other. Help your kid identify the troubled kids, and help keep them busy enough they aren't going to McDonalds with 40 other kids.

This doesn't mean we shouldn't do something to deal with the violence at ACHS. Something needs to be done, because even troubled kids deserve a safe school.

I mean, we have crowds of boisterous kids, often stealing soda until they are chased away, in our Tenleytown McDonald's. I am not the PP, but I wouldn't know when it's just the after school crowd having regular after school high jinks and when it's about to get deadly. There needs to be more safety features like beat cops in predictable locations that large groups of adolescents get out of school for lunch or after school, period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This happened in the middle of the day. The students were supposed to be in school and were not (they went to school and then left the building).

How can 30, 40, 50, more students leave a building and you as a school do nothing about it?

Who will get fired and how quickly will it happen?

A lot of 9th graders have to leave the buildings as they have classes at ACHS and MH and walk back and forth. I also thought they were allowed to leave campus for lunch? That actually seems like a stupid privilege to me and should not be allowed

There is no open campus lunch. Kids travel between MH and the main campus for classes. Also, that was an SOL testing day, and there is utter chaos and confusion about when kids are allowed to leave after they're done. Testing was a hot mess last year and again this year.

Many DC area public high schools still have open campus for lunch, a practice that began some 50 years ago, back in the 1970s. Arlington, Montgomery, DC, etc., all have open campus policies. Some schools limit it to upperclassmen, but for others, anyone can leave campus for lunch or during free periods. Generally there are no problems, and the schools prefer that some students leave the campus at lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is this school rated in academics

It has been highly rated for years in both sport and academics. I'm not sure about the past few years, but the school does serve a large mix of students from all socio-economic backgrounds. It is the biggest high school in Virginia (in terms of the # of students).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is this school rated in academics

It has been highly rated for years in both sport and academics. I'm not sure about the past few years, but the school does serve a large mix of students from all socio-economic backgrounds. It is the biggest high school in Virginia (in terms of the # of students).

It is 10/10 for white, UMC students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a recent article re a vigil by friends of the victim at Bradlee where they smoked pot and drank tequila. The teens complain the police officer didn't shoot his gun to break up the fight, the commercial tenants complain their customers now avoid Bradlee at certain hours and in the article photo the kids are flashing what I think is the 18th Street signal.

I believe the article was very poorly written but I am still in shock at what it does say and show.

https://www.alxnow.com/2022/05/27/friends-of-victim-say-police-didnt-do-enough-to-prevent-fatal-stabbing-at-bradlee-shopping-center/?fbclid=IwAR1e-GowiHU7-nnDRaIDImTHfTDZqSwY5Z79s3p9-g6_VgxkoMDIo9nW2Ak

This is a very bizarre article. And are the students photographed minors? Did the newspaper get permission from their parents to publish their photos and details about them smoking pot and drinking tequila?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is a recent article re a vigil by friends of the victim at Bradlee where they smoked pot and drank tequila. The teens complain the police officer didn't shoot his gun to break up the fight, the commercial tenants complain their customers now avoid Bradlee at certain hours and in the article photo the kids are flashing what I think is the 18th Street signal.

I believe the article was very poorly written but I am still in shock at what it does say and show.

https://www.alxnow.com/2022/05/27/friends-of-victim-say-police-didnt-do-enough-to-prevent-fatal-stabbing-at-bradlee-shopping-center/?fbclid=IwAR1e-GowiHU7-nnDRaIDImTHfTDZqSwY5Z79s3p9-g6_VgxkoMDIo9nW2Ak

This is a very bizarre article. And are the students photographed minors? Did the newspaper get permission from their parents to publish their photos and details about them smoking pot and drinking tequila?

Very progressive to interview gang members. They have video of the fight but won't share it with police because they don't "trust" them and think the police should have fired their guns to disperse the brawl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is a recent article re a vigil by friends of the victim at Bradlee where they smoked pot and drank tequila. The teens complain the police officer didn't shoot his gun to break up the fight, the commercial tenants complain their customers now avoid Bradlee at certain hours and in the article photo the kids are flashing what I think is the 18th Street signal.

I believe the article was very poorly written but I am still in shock at what it does say and show.

https://www.alxnow.com/2022/05/27/friends-of-victim-say-police-didnt-do-enough-to-prevent-fatal-stabbing-at-bradlee-shopping-center/?fbclid=IwAR1e-GowiHU7-nnDRaIDImTHfTDZqSwY5Z79s3p9-g6_VgxkoMDIo9nW2Ak

This is a very bizarre article. And are the students photographed minors? Did the newspaper get permission from their parents to publish their photos and details about them smoking pot and drinking tequila?

Very progressive to interview gang members. They have video of the fight but won't share it with police because they don't "trust" them and think the police should have fired their guns to disperse the brawl.

That article is the perfect reflection of Alexandria naivete/intentional misinformation. The writer really does not think there is a remote possibility that gangs in Alexandria exist. I know, as I have spoken to him about it, and he has bought the city leadership's mantra that they do not. People here really think these kids just need mental health counselors. Canek Aguirre has said gangs do not exist here, and it is racist to think otherwise. What I really think is going on, is admitting that certain neighborhoods of affordable housing have gangs will undercut and greatly diminish the push to build affordable housing that is making some people in this City very wealthy. So, we have the gaslit and the nefarious - then those of us who live in reality and fear cancellation and social retribution.